Questions on HID Kits and Halo Projectors. Need answers, Thanks.
07-21-2008, 09:54 PM
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Questions on HID Kits and Halo Projectors. Need answers, Thanks.
Ok so ive seen the halo projector headlights on ebay but there are several different brands with several slightly different styles. The black ones is what im interested in.
What is the best looking one to get that is black?
What brand of HID Kit do i need to get and where can i order it at? Im interested in 6000K.
What is the correct bulb size that i need for the HID Bulbs?
Do the Halo Projectors come with the white LED Bulbs?
How hard is it to mount the ballasts for the HIDs?
If any of you guys can point me in the right direction as to where i can order both of these things and which brands to get etc, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
What is the best looking one to get that is black?
What brand of HID Kit do i need to get and where can i order it at? Im interested in 6000K.
What is the correct bulb size that i need for the HID Bulbs?
Do the Halo Projectors come with the white LED Bulbs?
How hard is it to mount the ballasts for the HIDs?
If any of you guys can point me in the right direction as to where i can order both of these things and which brands to get etc, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
07-21-2008, 10:09 PM
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Ok so ive seen the halo projector headlights on ebay but there are several different brands with several slightly different styles. The black ones is what im interested in.
What is the best looking one to get that is black?
What brand of HID Kit do i need to get and where can i order it at? Im interested in 6000K.
What is the correct bulb size that i need for the HID Bulbs?
Do the Halo Projectors come with the white LED Bulbs?
How hard is it to mount the ballasts for the HIDs?
If any of you guys can point me in the right direction as to where i can order both of these things and which brands to get etc, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
What is the best looking one to get that is black?
What brand of HID Kit do i need to get and where can i order it at? Im interested in 6000K.
What is the correct bulb size that i need for the HID Bulbs?
Do the Halo Projectors come with the white LED Bulbs?
How hard is it to mount the ballasts for the HIDs?
If any of you guys can point me in the right direction as to where i can order both of these things and which brands to get etc, that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
07-21-2008, 10:10 PM
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Ummm lets see...In order...
2nd gen CCFL halos in black
unless you wanna spend a few hundred $$ for a Philips kit a HID kit is a HID kit. Just order one from eBay from a seller with a good rep
on the 2nd gen CCFL lights High Beam is H1 and Low Beam is H7
The Halo projectors are ready to rock right out of the box
Find a place to hide em and zip tie em in place
2nd gen CCFL halos in black
unless you wanna spend a few hundred $$ for a Philips kit a HID kit is a HID kit. Just order one from eBay from a seller with a good rep
on the 2nd gen CCFL lights High Beam is H1 and Low Beam is H7
The Halo projectors are ready to rock right out of the box
Find a place to hide em and zip tie em in place
07-21-2008, 11:42 PM
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Wait, so your saying that if i install a pair of all black halo projector headlights, then i will end up not having any use of high beams?? How? looks like theres a spot for high beam bulb to me... And are those LED lights in the headlights pre installed or do you have to buy the LED bulbs seperate?
07-21-2008, 11:58 PM
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247...Do you have AIM? I just finished installe projectors and HIDs about 2 weeks ago...Ill tell you everything about the process and answer any questions you have...
07-25-2008, 07:41 PM
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I just got these off of Ebay
Very nice kit, high quality. The kit comes with standard H1 bulbs, and an HID retrofit kit. The retrofit kit required only minor modifications...like removal of a useless rubber gasket covering the HID wiring (used a kitchen scissors), and cutting and re-splicing the power leads to reuse a rubber cover that is part of the headlight kit.
The kit is truly plug and play, with the right connectors for the standard Cobalt wiring harness. I made NO modifications to the Cobalt's original wiring. It would be an easy task to put the original headlights right back on.
I cut the power leads to the projector H1 bulb that came with it, and wired them altogether into the ballast and LED's positive and negative terminals.
Finding a space for the ballast on the passenger side is easy. Not so much on the drivers side. I think I have a space figured out. I want everything in the engine compartment, so it is not fed a diet of rain and road garbage. It would be easy to tuck it away near the grill, but I think that's probably a bad idea due to the constant exposure to the elements.
I'm still in the middle of the install project, but I could certainly get it done this evening.
Overall, I'm very pleased. If you have basic wiring skills, this is easy.
Aligning the lights may be a pain however, we will see.
The ebay seller I got the kit from was edixworks. I have no financial links to the seller, other than being a recent customer.
This looks like the kit I got from Edixworks, and comes with the 6000K HID lights and ballast, in black.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-08...3911.m14.l1318
One other thing...looks like I will have to take a dremel tool to remove a bit of material from the plastic Cobalt headlight mounting bracket on the drivers side. The HID bulb protrudes just enough to be too close to the bracket. This will be the first direct modification of the Cobalt itself I'll have to make.
Very nice kit, high quality. The kit comes with standard H1 bulbs, and an HID retrofit kit. The retrofit kit required only minor modifications...like removal of a useless rubber gasket covering the HID wiring (used a kitchen scissors), and cutting and re-splicing the power leads to reuse a rubber cover that is part of the headlight kit.
The kit is truly plug and play, with the right connectors for the standard Cobalt wiring harness. I made NO modifications to the Cobalt's original wiring. It would be an easy task to put the original headlights right back on.
I cut the power leads to the projector H1 bulb that came with it, and wired them altogether into the ballast and LED's positive and negative terminals.
Finding a space for the ballast on the passenger side is easy. Not so much on the drivers side. I think I have a space figured out. I want everything in the engine compartment, so it is not fed a diet of rain and road garbage. It would be easy to tuck it away near the grill, but I think that's probably a bad idea due to the constant exposure to the elements.
I'm still in the middle of the install project, but I could certainly get it done this evening.
Overall, I'm very pleased. If you have basic wiring skills, this is easy.
Aligning the lights may be a pain however, we will see.
The ebay seller I got the kit from was edixworks. I have no financial links to the seller, other than being a recent customer.
This looks like the kit I got from Edixworks, and comes with the 6000K HID lights and ballast, in black.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-08...3911.m14.l1318
One other thing...looks like I will have to take a dremel tool to remove a bit of material from the plastic Cobalt headlight mounting bracket on the drivers side. The HID bulb protrudes just enough to be too close to the bracket. This will be the first direct modification of the Cobalt itself I'll have to make.
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07-25-2008, 09:08 PM
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If you grab the 3rd gens, take note of this problem, i made a how-to on it: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-guide-43/how-remove-glare-spots-above-cut-off-line-3rd-gen-projectors-113781/
Don't get 1st gens, too many problems with leakage, grab either the 2nd or 3rd gen. Im a fan of the 3rd gens, but the 2nd are easier to install due to no wiring (unless you get hids).
And yes, 3rd gens are a BITCH to aim, don't know about the ccfl's.
Don't get 1st gens, too many problems with leakage, grab either the 2nd or 3rd gen. Im a fan of the 3rd gens, but the 2nd are easier to install due to no wiring (unless you get hids).
And yes, 3rd gens are a BITCH to aim, don't know about the ccfl's.
07-27-2008, 11:05 AM
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Thank you very much for the how to on the reflector spot...I'm going to wait to see how annoying it is before doing the surgury you described on the light...I'm a little worried about getting the fill putty down in there without screwing things up....
07-27-2008, 01:19 PM
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If you grab the 3rd gens, take note of this problem, i made a how-to on it: https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=113781
Don't get 1st gens, too many problems with leakage, grab either the 2nd or 3rd gen. Im a fan of the 3rd gens, but the 2nd are easier to install due to no wiring (unless you get hids).
And yes, 3rd gens are a BITCH to aim, don't know about the ccfl's.
Don't get 1st gens, too many problems with leakage, grab either the 2nd or 3rd gen. Im a fan of the 3rd gens, but the 2nd are easier to install due to no wiring (unless you get hids).
And yes, 3rd gens are a BITCH to aim, don't know about the ccfl's.
07-27-2008, 01:35 PM
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Those are not 2nd gen headlights i believe. 2nd gen headlights are so easy to install. No cutting or modding of anything. And HIDs are simple to install with 2nd gen.
07-27-2008, 05:45 PM
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yea i have the 3rd gens. pita to align em but looks great. a buddy of mine has the ccfl's and they look great too. they are much easier to align than the 1st and 3rd gen too.
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I have the Second Generation. They're the plug and play ones (They have their own harness). If you go with the second Gen, make sure your HID kit is H7. I also reccommend getting a relay kit to feed your HIDs from the battery instead of the headlamp wiring.
My setup:
2nd Gen CCFL Black Projectors
Size H7 Pilot HID 6000K kit (I will be going to 4300K once these bulbs burn out since 4300K looks more OEM and puts out more lumens than 6000K)
MobileHID Relay harness with H7 turn on wire.
I also added a second relay to let me retain the low beams while my high beams were turned on.
My setup:
2nd Gen CCFL Black Projectors
Size H7 Pilot HID 6000K kit (I will be going to 4300K once these bulbs burn out since 4300K looks more OEM and puts out more lumens than 6000K)
MobileHID Relay harness with H7 turn on wire.
I also added a second relay to let me retain the low beams while my high beams were turned on.
07-29-2008, 07:52 PM
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I have the Second Generation. They're the plug and play ones (They have their own harness). If you go with the second Gen, make sure your HID kit is H7. I also reccommend getting a relay kit to feed your HIDs from the battery instead of the headlamp wiring.
My setup:
2nd Gen CCFL Black Projectors
Size H7 Pilot HID 6000K kit (I will be going to 4300K once these bulbs burn out since 4300K looks more OEM and puts out more lumens than 6000K)
MobileHID Relay harness with H7 turn on wire.
I also added a second relay to let me retain the low beams while my high beams were turned on.
My setup:
2nd Gen CCFL Black Projectors
Size H7 Pilot HID 6000K kit (I will be going to 4300K once these bulbs burn out since 4300K looks more OEM and puts out more lumens than 6000K)
MobileHID Relay harness with H7 turn on wire.
I also added a second relay to let me retain the low beams while my high beams were turned on.
07-29-2008, 08:20 PM
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Well the HID kit bulb size will be different depending on what gen headlights you get. 2nd gen are H7 and 1st gen are H1 someone correct me if im wrong. I Dont use a relay kit, but why would you want high beams and low beams on at the same time?
07-29-2008, 10:55 PM
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Having both beams on puts out a lot more light output, unless you live out in the country or drive in the country a lot, you dont need to to the high/low mod.
You don't "need" a relay kit, but it's a nice reassurance to have. HIDs pull a very fast high voltage draw to ignite the xenon gas, and it can be really taxing on your oem headlight harness over time. The kit is easy as hell to install, just basic wiring knowledge (meaning anyone can do it).
www.mobilehid.com
That's the one I have. Also, the first gens require to to drill a small hole for the returnlead for the bulbs to fit properly, otherwise they go in upside-down and you get dark spots on the road.
If I were you, I'd get the 2nd gen ccfl's, they look better, no leaks, and there's no wiring involved.
You don't "need" a relay kit, but it's a nice reassurance to have. HIDs pull a very fast high voltage draw to ignite the xenon gas, and it can be really taxing on your oem headlight harness over time. The kit is easy as hell to install, just basic wiring knowledge (meaning anyone can do it).
www.mobilehid.com
That's the one I have. Also, the first gens require to to drill a small hole for the returnlead for the bulbs to fit properly, otherwise they go in upside-down and you get dark spots on the road.
If I were you, I'd get the 2nd gen ccfl's, they look better, no leaks, and there's no wiring involved.
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