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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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But if the cobalt came out in awd with a 6spd other options etc it would make sense... But 2 cars basically identical except appearence. the sky and solstice were running 13.9 and 14.0 and they are rwd and wiegh less. So what you think a cobalt with the same motor will do? Gm pisses me off if they would get it right the first time they would control the tuner market.... Dodge and gm fucket up and i hate to say it but the new zxt focus or w/e its called is gonna beat them both.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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I can just smell the negative equity threads popping up in a year or so...
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Got See It To Decide Maybe A Test Drive Will Make My Mind....
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NJHK
I can just smell the negative equity threads popping up in a year or so...
They will spread like wildfire, along with the blow off valve threads. lol

I will not be trading, I love my car and see no need for another. Plus I've owned my last sport compact.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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I won't be trading. I love my car . And to be honest i really don't see the LNF cars blowing the LSJ's out of the water in performance. I'm not saying that the LNF doesn't have more potential than a LSJ , it does , but if the HP ratings stay at 260/260 crank i think a stage 2 LSJ should still be in the ball park.

I hope GM makes some better front end parts that will be interchangeable between the 2 cars, i would like to see improved axel's, CAB's and mounts .
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Y wouldn't ppl just look to swap motors instead of trading in the whole car???

THIS IS MADNESS!!!!
No, THIS IS COOOOBBAAAAAALT

Swap the motors instead of trading it in ppl. lol THats what I'm looking into doing
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RuSSo-29
Y wouldn't ppl just look to swap motors instead of trading in the whole car???

THIS IS MADNESS!!!!
No, THIS IS COOOOBBAAAAAALT

Swap the motors instead of trading it in ppl. lol THats what I'm looking into doing
big chance i do that too!
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DaREDss
But if the cobalt came out in awd with a 6spd other options etc it would make sense... But 2 cars basically identical except appearence. the sky and solstice were running 13.9 and 14.0 and they are rwd and wiegh less. So what you think a cobalt with the same motor will do? Gm pisses me off if they would get it right the first time they would control the tuner market.... Dodge and gm fucket up and i hate to say it but the new zxt focus or w/e its called is gonna beat them both.
The F35 and F40 are not able to be used in an all-wheel-drive configuration.

It makes perfect sense. The Sol/Sky are the sports car for 27-30K, while the Cobalt is the tuner car for 20-23K. They are two completely different markets. I would assume 14.4-14.6 out of the new Cobalt bone stock. With stage kits probably into the mid to low 12's.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RuSSo-29
Y wouldn't ppl just look to swap motors instead of trading in the whole car???

THIS IS MADNESS!!!!
No, THIS IS COOOOBBAAAAAALT

Swap the motors instead of trading it in ppl. lol THats what I'm looking into doing
THe motor whill probably bolt right in. You'll just have to run new fuel lines and use the fuel tank, pump from the new SS.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IMADreamer
They will spread like wildfire, along with the blow off valve threads. lol

I will not be trading, I love my car and see no need for another. Plus I've owned my last sport compact.
The LNF doesn't have a blowoff valve, it has some sort of a bypass valve that always keeps the turbo slightly spooled. It takes a bit of work to integrate a blowoff valve and close up the bypass valve.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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I doubt it will hit 12s on stage kits.

I also dont see the point of motor swapping, when it would be cheaper to turbo your LSJ.

and a turbo lsj will outperform a stock LNF
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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With stage kits probably into the mid to low 12's.
Wow
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
I doubt it will hit 12s on stage kits.

I also dont see the point of motor swapping, when it would be cheaper to turbo your LSJ.

and a turbo lsj will outperform a stock LNF
You don't see 350hp with stage kits?

You also have to remember that the LNF doesn't have problems blowing up #4 piston due to fuel starvation, it has DI. The LNF also has much stronger stock internals, and will be available in 6speed manual. I think that is all I need to get myself a LNF balt. But I do currently have a 2.2L LS, so my opinion could be different than others.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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I don't see GM making stage kits that will take the LNF to 350hp. Not even close. I see..

S1 : 280hp
S2 : 300hp
S3: 330hp on race gas

Going to 350hp on that maxed turbo from the factory is a maintenance risk.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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The New Turbo Balt Will Have A Spot To Make A Blow Off Valve Work Exceptonal.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
I don't see GM making stage kits that will take the LNF to 350hp. Not even close. I see..

S1 : 280hp
S2 : 300hp
S3: 330hp on race gas

Going to 350hp on that maxed turbo from the factory is a maintenance risk.

agreed.

and i highly doubt S3 would make that power on stock turbo either.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
I doubt it will hit 12s on stage kits.

I also dont see the point of motor swapping, when it would be cheaper to turbo your LSJ.

and a turbo lsj will outperform a stock LNF
Yes, but the LNF had me at hello.....

lol, it has the VVT and DI wich i would think make it more interesting for tuning. + then i'm thinking maybe You could find a way of sticking a SC on it and then BAM, Twincharged. <granted, I'm dreaming about the twin charge, the LNF seems like more of a motor that wants to be tuned?

Originally Posted by Archie
You don't see 350hp with stage kits?

You also have to remember that the LNF doesn't have problems blowing up #4 piston due to fuel starvation, it has DI. The LNF also has much stronger stock internals, and will be available in 6speed manual. I think that is all I need to get myself a LNF balt. But I do currently have a 2.2L LS, so my opinion could be different than others.
Yea, #4 is taken care of now!

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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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wat are the specs of the internals.
i heard they used the same pistons, but i dont know how good the source was.
anyone?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RuSSo-29
Yea, #4 is taken care of now!
says who?
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Whatever the ratings are, I will trade in my LSJ for an LNF only if the platform is RWD. Besides that, I'd rather have the ss/sc because it appeals to me more.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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some of us got the cobalt to tie them over till something bigger and better is more affordable. IE, camaro, g8, c6.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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some of us got the cobalt to tie them over till something bigger and better is more affordable. IE, camaro, g8, c6.
Corvette's couldn't get more affordable now.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Onyxd04Redline
Corvette's couldn't get more affordable now.
maybe like an 04 c5z or something. or i just need to make more money. either one.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
some of us got the cobalt to tie them over till something bigger and better is more affordable. IE, camaro, g8, c6.
Good call.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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i want to have both lol
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