Group Buy on SS-TC Charge Piping Kits!
10-22-2008, 11:25 PM
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I would have to say if we get a killer deal you don't have a choice to not get the logo on there. We would have to make up the price some how and if that through advertising then so be it. I don't advertise for no one unless I am getting a KILLER deal and make it worth my wile.
10-23-2008, 12:34 AM
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10-23-2008, 01:19 AM
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Just like I said with the intercooler, at $350 i am in. I would want black pipes though!
Also, how did you attach the pipe to the mount that is next to the mechanical fuel pump? On the OEM pipe, mine (and others) keeps popping off there.
Also, how did you attach the pipe to the mount that is next to the mechanical fuel pump? On the OEM pipe, mine (and others) keeps popping off there.
10-23-2008, 02:05 AM
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when i got my hahn kit i was very very suprised by the quality of the charge piping, i thought it would be simple aluminized exhaust piping that had been powder coated... no, this stuff is very nice quality piping that is quite thick and durable with smooth flowing bends and the powder coat is very durable i have had the pipes on and off at least 5-6 times and not one has a even a scratch in it... no matter what it is hahn never fails to produce very high quality pieces at an affordable price.
if you looking for high flow quality charge piping look no further...
if you looking for high flow quality charge piping look no further...
10-23-2008, 10:23 AM
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The stock piping, while rather ugly, is actually well up to the task of supporting the stock power level. Power gains realized from a piping upgrade like this will increase as you continue to upgrade the car, since the more airflow you try to put through it, the more restrictive the stock piping becomes.
I was thinking that this plastic might be a weak part of the design and it might not be as reliable as the charge piping kits available. Although the kits look very nice, I'm not sure I'd want to spend hundreds of dollars just for looks...
10-23-2008, 12:03 PM
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At stock hp levels the piping will be only for looks and durability
I think snyapse got about 5 wheel in the very top end of the rev range with there dyno results with piping only with a tuned car.
I may upgrade if I ever swap turbos down the road however.
I like the fact that when I open the hood now, it looks bone ass stock!
I think snyapse got about 5 wheel in the very top end of the rev range with there dyno results with piping only with a tuned car.
I may upgrade if I ever swap turbos down the road however.
I like the fact that when I open the hood now, it looks bone ass stock!
10-23-2008, 12:28 PM
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I would vote for a combo of the piping + intercooler for
1-10 $675
11-15 $650
16-20 $625
20+ $600
Intercooler alone:
1-10 -$425
11-15-$410
16-20-$400
20+ -$375
Piping:
1-10 -$315
11-15-$300
16-20-$275
20+ -$260
..and the piping in a red that matches the Victory red or possibly chrome? (of course chrome would need to be extra). Perhaps polished then clear over that?
1-10 $675
11-15 $650
16-20 $625
20+ $600
Intercooler alone:
1-10 -$425
11-15-$410
16-20-$400
20+ -$375
Piping:
1-10 -$315
11-15-$300
16-20-$275
20+ -$260
..and the piping in a red that matches the Victory red or possibly chrome? (of course chrome would need to be extra). Perhaps polished then clear over that?
10-23-2008, 02:43 PM
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It's a bit awkward debating on prices Bill. Members want to get something for a low price, but the product is probably worth a considerable amount more than most of the current suggestions. We trust your judgment Bill and we know you're not going to screw us, so name your price man!
10-23-2008, 03:21 PM
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I will do just that. Thanks for the input, everyone...and should there be any more suggestions, don't hesitate to post up!
We don't. Rigid mounting the pipes after we've used them to eliminate the flexible hoses at each end is not recommended. Engine/transmission movement versus the intercooler's stationary position on the chassis will lead to unwanted stresses and vibration if we tie down the pipe too tightly. Mostly, it's hard on the intercooler, but it's also hard on the pipes and couplers.
It's true...at stock power levels, the stock piping does well in terms of power. The more you turn the car up, the more swapping out the charge pipes will help.
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
So if we are not looking to do a lot of modding and generating more HP, there really isn't much of a reason to upgrade the charge piping besides aesthetics?
I was thinking that this plastic might be a weak part of the design and it might not be as reliable as the charge piping kits available. Although the kits look very nice, I'm not sure I'd want to spend hundreds of dollars just for looks...
I was thinking that this plastic might be a weak part of the design and it might not be as reliable as the charge piping kits available. Although the kits look very nice, I'm not sure I'd want to spend hundreds of dollars just for looks...
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
- Aesthetics (if one is into underhood looks)
- Durability (the plastic piping has proven a bit limp in some cases)
- Blow-Off Valve system inclusion later (to improve upshift performance and reduce turbo strain)
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10-23-2008, 03:23 PM
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I will do just that. Thanks for the input, everyone...and should there be any more suggestions, don't hesitate to post up!
We don't. Rigid mounting the pipes after we've used them to eliminate the flexible hoses at each end is not recommended. Engine/transmission movement versus the intercooler's stationary position on the chassis will lead to unwanted stresses and vibration if we tie down the pipe too tightly. Mostly, it's hard on the intercooler, but it's also hard on the pipes and couplers.
It's true...at stock power levels, the stock piping does well in terms of power. The more you turn the car up, the more swapping out the charge pipes will help.
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
We don't. Rigid mounting the pipes after we've used them to eliminate the flexible hoses at each end is not recommended. Engine/transmission movement versus the intercooler's stationary position on the chassis will lead to unwanted stresses and vibration if we tie down the pipe too tightly. Mostly, it's hard on the intercooler, but it's also hard on the pipes and couplers.
It's true...at stock power levels, the stock piping does well in terms of power. The more you turn the car up, the more swapping out the charge pipes will help.
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
- Aesthetics (if one is into underhood looks)
- Durability (the plastic piping has proven a bit limp in some cases)
- Blow-Off Valve system inclusion later (to improve upshift performance and reduce turbo strain)
10-23-2008, 03:26 PM
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10-23-2008, 03:30 PM
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It's true...at stock power levels, the stock piping does well in terms of power. The more you turn the car up, the more swapping out the charge pipes will help.
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
Other reasons to consider using this on a stock vehicle:
- Aesthetics (if one is into underhood looks)
- Durability (the plastic piping has proven a bit limp in some cases)
- Blow-Off Valve system inclusion later (to improve upshift performance and reduce turbo strain)
10-23-2008, 03:31 PM
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x2 lol
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10-23-2008, 03:34 PM
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10-23-2008, 03:36 PM
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10-23-2008, 03:37 PM
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I can't speak for the Cobalt people, but there have been lots of issues with the HHR SS stock piping.
10-23-2008, 03:41 PM
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You are correct...I am actually surprised that we've not seen more Cobalts with the plastic piping problems that have appeared on HHR.
10-23-2008, 03:50 PM
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i wanna hear this billet bov with this car. id love to C what the dyno numbers are with the piping. the i/c and the BOV. and the tune!!! im sure this car will be well over 300 WHP and thats what i want
OMG is that BOV sport tint red!?!?! it looks sexi!!!
OMG is that BOV sport tint red!?!?! it looks sexi!!!
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10-23-2008, 03:58 PM
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I'll get a sound clip up for this soon!
They should be too close to call...the engines and supporting equipment are 99.99999% identical. Making the HHR SS one of the coolest grocery-getters ever!
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