no rush man, they quit making this product awhile back, so i couldn't see their being a newer version, now i get what you mean by not in motion test makes since but i don't think i remember being able to feel anything in stage I... i'll check it today on my way to work.

approximately how many seconds in 0ff before you notice the change?

 

sad to hear they stopped production was there a reason or just bad sales?? as for timing its instant but if i had to put a number on it id say 1s lol have a great day at work

 

will do bout to grab a shower and head out lol have to be there at 4 don't get off till 1 yuck haha.

 

hey man, all I know is I can shift it up and down if I want... granted it take a minute or two to "downshift" from I or II, but, it will without me turning the car off.... I directly connected the wires, as in, stripping the old wires, tying the shift+ wires onto their respective colored wires, and re connecting, taping the living **** out of it and went to town testing it out

 

i tested on my way to work... stage I it seems as though you can switch between off and on... stage II however does not work this way...

i'll test the stage I further to make sure, but so far it appears as though i was wrong on stage II, but i'd say most people here either are off or stage II. i'll mess around with it some more tomorrow and double check to make sure i wasn't just wanting it to happen so bad that i felt it happen lol.

we'll see. stage II is a definate no go tho.

 

okay the tilt on the steering wheel pull it down push the steering wheel all the way up. place the box between the steering column and the plastic lower dash that goes around it. push the steering wheel all the way down ontop of it as hard as you can to wedge it in there then push you tilt level back up to keep it there.

oh btw did my test again and i do believe your right.. stage I to off works... i guess i never really messed with stage I at all, but i just assumed it would be like stage II. anyways i do wish other people would try it and see if it works for everyone then we will know most certian that i'm just not insane nor anyone else that this actually works for.

 

no sounds like your b&m is faulty i'd return it and get a new one see if that works... now when you disconnected it did it still shift like it was in stage II or was it back to normal?

 

hey I need help fast< I have two red or orange with black stripes, and not the twisted ones but TWO different orange with black by themselfs how do I know which one to use. and how do you use the crimps that it give me not sure how to put the wirs in. thanks

just keeping this at the top of the new post I'm at work and need to fix this before I can leave to go home

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzwRo0eMDyE

philup since it sucks so bad you may not want to watch this video, second clip in it especially, when i chirp second in stage II on the b&m.

 

my shift+ is on the way from canada i like the way it feels when you drive it. and seeing that video makes me like it even more lol (the second part with the little chirp very nice lol)

 

yea I think its just my taps that came with it going to pick up some on the way home from work and try that.

 

the taps are fine sometimes you have to take wire strippers and at least break through the plastic coating or it wont make a good connection.

 

^ its good now the guys at napa service, beside my work got it right he used a soldering gun to connect it but I havent tried it out yet got to wait tell I leave from work. but it clunks going in to drive so should be right

 

don't turn it on until your in drive and turn it off before you turn off yoru car just my .02c u should like it tho.

 

ok finally here are some pics of my hook ups and my placement. its been a long week haha

 

its hooked up just like mine and mien also goes in and out of stage I with no issues... don't guess i ever did it before but if you read the above post you know that already.

 

yea I dont have any pics yet but the 07 is a little diff. from yours, the pcm wires run diff on mine there is 2 other wire looms running out of it and its more to the left of the coolant hoes, it was a bitch to get to. but I'll get some pics tonight and post up.

 

I have an 07 and it took me like 20 minutes to put in and wasn't that hard to get to. I also did outside in temperatures below zero.

 

ill be gettin mine in on wed. and ill be puttin in my ion. im pretty excited. anyone besides philup have any complaints?

 

well no complaints and never said it was hard took me about 30 mins also, just it looks easer to get in his photos, my wire loom ran to the left and under the coolant hose, and I just had to hold it and wire at the same time, but it wasnt bad, and at first the taps were not getting a good connect, so I had the guys who work beside me soilder it up. Works fine and hits hard in stage 2.

 

Yea, its a little different but i was to pull the wire loom up above my coolant hose and work on it, so it was a little easier.

 

ya i have an 08 didn't take but like 10 mins.

 

The taps that are in the photos that dave104 posted are thoes the ones that came with it or did you use your own?

 

they are done by colors = diff sizes, i'm pretty sure those are ones given with the product.

 

i used my own i think haha its been a while but looking back at the 1st pages pics i did use my own because the ones shipped with it were POS's

i moved in really close for the pic so it just looks easy to get to but i agree its a bitch haha

glad we have found a common conclusion haha what about the other claim to switching out of stageII any results?