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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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don't know what a wrx sounds like but i think they are ugly, fast but ugly!
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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Think about this......it makes a Cobalt sound like a WRX.......why does a WRX sound the way it does?
Horizontally opposed motor?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Lol nick what if i get this header? my head isnt coming off to put it on. lmao
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by o3nisoaso3
Horizontally opposed motor?
unequal length header
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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Lol nick what if i get this header? my head isnt coming off to put it on. lmao
just wait til i throw the turbo on mine n u can buy mine, we will be pulling ur head by then lol

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unequal length header
i was meaning to say it sarcastically, like bein a ******* with the answer. the whole point of this header is for equal length so thats what relates between both cars so i said something that didnt... idk, i got it lol
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Do you have any headers left? If so, price shipped to 08723, NJ US please?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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true dat. lol
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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SS/SC Crazer
don't know what a wrx sounds like but i think they are ugly, slow and ugly!
fixed
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Old May 6, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
unequal length header
DING DING DING we have a winner!









*unequal flow would have been accepted as well.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
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lol, wait, this jbp is equal length supposedly right?
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Old May 6, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Supposed to be, but it's not.

I dont care about the power gain or loss, I want the sound.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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There are gains! END.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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lol the only gains would be from the primarys being a little larger... but you could get better gains out of a long tube header and a dp.... end of story. this is also alot more than a normal header dp combo u can get ... even though its an amazing sounding header ( i love the sound).
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Old May 6, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Unless for some reason you are absolutely forced to run a stock fitment downpipe, and you absolutely can not have a short tube header i see no reason to use this save for the sound. Its relatively expensive, its relatively difficult to install, and based on the sound it makes its obviously not a very equal flowing header, it may be equal length in the strictest sense of the word but the dramatically different contours and number of bends in each primary handicaps any benefit them being equal lengths would offer.

I may be wrong, but i dont believe that JBP has ever refuted the fact that this headers unique sound is due to its uneven flow from cylinder to cylinder.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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ok, money isn't a problem, and i don't care about sound!!!!!!! i am looking for the biggest hp gain!!!!!! would this header and dp be the choice or a shorty header and dp????
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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Will the header fit on an 06 SS/2.4??

And will the unequal tube lengths cause any problems later on down the road with the engine?
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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well i am selling mine! i was never installed on a car, just been sitting around in my room since the group buy! i bought a different exhaust system! i was gonna go with the full jbp exhaust system but its too expensive and not the right set up for the mods i am going to run, i am willing to sell it for the group buy price + shipping if anybody is interested!
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Might be interested. Do you have pics? and how much is group buy price?

Is your car 2.4?
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dankk
Might be interested. Do you have pics? and how much is group buy price?

Is your car 2.4?
um... i don't have pics, but all the pics from JBP and the price are somewhere in this massive thread. no i don't have a 2.4 i have the SS\SC 2.0
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dankk
Will the header fit on an 06 SS/2.4??

And will the unequal tube lengths cause any problems later on down the road with the engine?
I believe this header has 1.75" primaries which current wisdom suggests is overkill for a 2.4, and may in fact be detrimental. (This opens up a huge can of worms regarding back pressure. See my closing statement.)

Get a LSJ downpipe and a good cat-back exhaust, and keep your stock exhaust manifold. You'll probably see more power that way, rather than the Jbp header with stock exhaust. In any event, you would need a larger capacity downpipe and cat back to take advantage of any power increase that the jbp header has to offer, otherwise you are spending bucks for sound only. You could look at alternative downpipes but, keep in mind that the 2.4 is finicky with aftermarket downpipes. If you go that route, you may find that you'll get (a series of) cels that can only be permanently cancelled by using HPTuners, or similar tuning software.

I suggest you do some serious searching on these forums for exhaust info before spending your money on a (jbp or other) header. There are all sorts of countering opinons. Take your pick.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 02:27 AM
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there gonna be another sale soon??
i am looking into getting headers with in 2 weeks.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cradleoffear06
there gonna be another sale soon??
i am looking into getting headers with in 2 weeks.
mine is for sale, never been used or installed, comes with all gaskets, and hardware! will sell for the sale price+ shipping, let me know if you are interested! its just been sitting here in my room for like a year now!
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave7417
I believe this header has 1.75" primaries which current wisdom suggests is overkill for a 2.4, and may in fact be detrimental. (This opens up a huge can of worms regarding back pressure. See my closing statement.)

Get a LSJ downpipe and a good cat-back exhaust, and keep your stock exhaust manifold. You'll probably see more power that way, rather than the Jbp header with stock exhaust. In any event, you would need a larger capacity downpipe and cat back to take advantage of any power increase that the jbp header has to offer, otherwise you are spending bucks for sound only. You could look at alternative downpipes but, keep in mind that the 2.4 is finicky with aftermarket downpipes. If you go that route, you may find that you'll get (a series of) cels that can only be permanently cancelled by using HPTuners, or similar tuning software.

I suggest you do some serious searching on these forums for exhaust info before spending your money on a (jbp or other) header. There are all sorts of countering opinons. Take your pick.
Interesting. If I were to go JBP, I wouldn't get only the header, I would go the whole nine yards with the 3" dp, etc. But like you said, it's something to think about.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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1 5/8" primaries, 3" formed collector
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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If you wanna know how the header does in comparison to the stock one, take a look at my header comparison thread in two weeks. I'm swapping from the stock header on sunday to the jbp, gathering notes and then doing the dyno on the same tune as the one set for the stock header. that way, I (and you) will know if it's a restriction of flow or not.
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