I have my nitrous from my Camaro that I no longer need since I am going to turbo the Camaro.. Ill have a 2.6 pulley and 60lb injectors.. Could the car handle a 50 wet shot? I would only do it on the track.. So it would not be a everday..

 

that is alot of power to be throwing at that motor...I fear you blowing a headgasket.

I wanna say yes but really no one has tried...I'm sure u'd atleast make it down the track once or twice though!

 

I'd also wanna say yes....but it's your motor. Can you try with a smaller shot?

 

i know there are guys running 2.8 pullies with 50 shots.

 

I figure with the 2.6 and 60lbs injc and what not should be put around 270.. and a 50 shot 300+ even a 30/25 would put me 300+.. what is the most these cars can generally handle?

 

depends honestly, pistons generally aren't to reliable after 300whp and rods after 350whp.

 

what should I do just get better pistons and rods?

 

K-A-B-O-O-M! that is all..... unless u have some mad supporting mods

 

50 shot is relatively low and the nitrous mixture should drop your combustion chamber temperatures greatly.

It's your engine though...

 

aight.. i shall just stick to the pulley..

 

do it it is actualy safer it will drop your combustion tems and improver your detonation safty margain
just run it after the super otherwise the fuel will lose atomisation and that=lean

 

If I were you, i'd do it. However, i'd do the basic suppourting mods, head gasket, head studs...etc. I don't think we need rods that much...they're forged from the factory, they should be able to handle some power

 

Well acording to Cobalt_Supercharged, theres a guy in AZ with a 2.5" running a 100 shot on stock internals. I think he said something like 350 whp, not sure though, I can't imagine his engine lasting very long...

 

From what I'm understanding, our internals are actually pretty strong. The major concern that you will have would be the head gasket and head studs, those have been known to go right around 300whp...Good luck on your decision

 

what you guys dont understand is that nos below 100 shots is actualy very safe and controlable and wont really cause engine dammage. Un less you detonate but runny nos will actualy reduce the chance of that because it will reduce heat and add fuel at the same time.

 

Yeah there is a Tech at my dealership running a 2.5", 60's, and a 100 shot with only Bate's Engineering valve springs, retainers, seats, etc. Said he dynoed 343whp. He also requested that Intense pull timing at certain intervals and command a 10.8 AFR if I remember correctly. He had the PCM tuned specifically for the 100 shot by his personal specs. He works on a 1,100 hp drag Cobalt, so I'm assuming that he knows what he is doing.

 

i agree with everyone saying 50 shot no problem, 100 shot maybe head gasket.

 

yeah 100shot you need head studs and maby a gasket

 

X3..I truly believe that a 50 shot will be ok, but you may want to think about replacing the head gasket and head studs with a 2.6" pulley. You maybe pushing that breaking point of either one and it would be cheaper to replace the gasket and studs before-hand, then have head issues and have to replace them after, in addition to milling the head, checkin for cracks, and maybe even valve issues to fix.

 

Your combustion temps will NOT go down, that is a huge misconseption. Nitrogen absorbs energy/heat and keeps engine temps down. We use nitrous oxide to force more OXYGEN into the engine to enhance combustion, but this is what some people don't realize. If we just wanted the oxygen, we would use compressed o2 right? Yea well, try it. Without the extra nitrogen absorbing heat and helping lower combustion temps, your motor will not last long at all. Now air has about 20% or 21% (i cant remember exactly) oxygen, the rest being trace gasses, but majority of it is nitrogen. Nitrous is around 35% oxygen with almost all the rest being nitrogen, so there is MORE oxygen making for higher combustion temps with less nitrogen to absorb some of the excess heat. Your IAT's will drop dramatically with nitrous from ambient, but once heat breaks it down into oxygen and nitrogen and the combustion cylce has taken place, it will be quite a bit hotter than ambient air would have created. Watch the EGT's on a nitrous injected vehicle compared to a 100% n/a vehicle and you will see. If you were to use a very small amount of nitrous that would be the equivilant of like a...15 shot, then yes it would actually make your engine safer because the decrease in IAT's would overcome the gain in oxygen to make for cooler combustion temps, but with a 50 shot, i highly HIGHYL doubt your egt's will actually be lower.

with any nitrous system, you will want a window switch if you don't have one, which im assuming you do, but if you don't....get one. You don't want to bog a launch and hear your motor go pop.

 

send me the kit... i'll try it

 

i think you will be fine with the 50 shot just get a headgasket and studs. I was thinking about 2.6 pulley+meth injection+50 shot

 

Are the headgaskets and headbolts pretty easy to change? We've done the work on my Z28.. so I can't see it being any harder.

 

I heard that there is a way to put nitrous on the car but that it has to be tuned right. I was told that it would be safer to go with a methanol injection though. Who knows?

 

well methanol will decrease your IATs dramatically without some of the other effects of nitrous. It is not nearly as big of a power boost, but if you are thinking of a small shot of nitrous anyway, you may be better off just going meth injection.