Having driven all 3 when i worked at the dealership - i can say that Ford has the best package of diesel and trans. The GM package is close behind. You will not get the longevity out of the Powerstroke. Most are having problems waaaay before 100K. But it is the best IMO. I saw Powerstrokes with complete replacements with as low as 15K. But ive seen the dodge Cummins blow up as soon as it was driven off the lot . The Cummins in a dodge is of completely different architecture than that of industrial diesels. Most industrial Diesels for dump trucks and tractor trailers are in-line 6-8 cyls. Some of the cross country tractors have HUGE engines upwards of 14-16L+. Id never buy a dodge with a diesel in it - unless it had like a full bully dog setup....

 

The ISB is an inline 6, and somewhere on the net there are pictures of internals from all 3 diesels (PowerJoke, Duramax, and Cummins) side-by-side. The Cummins is by-far the beefiest of the 3. It is WAY over-engineered for a pickup-truck application. They do have known fuel-pump issues, but I haven't heard of too many 'blowing up'. I don't doubt that there are bad apples in the bunch, but I'm sure there are just as many D-max's and far more Powerstrokes that have **** the bed as well. As Tim and Dan said, the PSD is basically junk- it can't be rebuilt, you just throw it away and get a new one. I'm not sure on the D-max.

Let me just say that I'm probably the biggest die-hard Chevy fan in our group, but when it comes to a diesel I'd go Mopar- unless GM offers the Cummins in the future.

 

Yea I think my dad has a 15 liter detroit in his Volvo VN, atleast its around 15 lol.

 

http://www.exedyusa.com/oe/GM022SBL

So ahhummm...someone pass the tissues...

Remember that extra student loan I was talking about...I'm doing the application now

 

Within the past few years Volvo has now given the option to pick up their luxury trucks with Mercedes Benz diesel engines.

 

I thought you guys might appreciate this thread sayin the ONLY way a 2.4 could beat an SS/SC is if " they driver couldn't drive or missed gears..."

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...d=1#post723854

 

what are you trying to say, George????

I'm gonna cry now..........

 

Don't you guys know.... the SS/SC never loses.

 

No doubt.

 

I race my friends 05 ss/sc all the time and smoke his ass. He doesn't understand whats wrong. I think it's halarious...

 

hey guys im pretty new to the site i joined about a month or so ago but just no started really going on it in the last week and i cant believe i found you guys made a pittsburgh crew well add one more cuz i live in pittsburgh to haha...only this is i cant go out to bars and **** im only 17 haha

 

Welcome to the site/group. We get together every once in a while, just not as much in winter. We'll be out a lot more come summer.

 

thats great to here now i know im not the only guy in the pittsburgh area that is obsessed with my car haha well let me know next time you guys are getting together ill def show up what you guys do you race eachother ?

 

Oh, they race each other, EVO's, pretty much anything they can bait into a race.

Welcome aboard!!

 

Yeah, they never lose... unless I'm driving it.

I didn't win many races ( only at the track, of course ), and I think Dan had him AND KAte in the car and I barely won.

Wait until I get drag radials!

ssadiction.... Welcome to the PA group. We have a wide range of ages, so hope you enjoy the car as much as we do.

We have guys a little older than you.... all the way up to some OLDER peeps in their mid 30's.

Autocross season is only 9 weeks or so away!!!!! whew!

 

All hail the cone gods...

 

I have absolutely NO CLUE what your talking about hasha. But yea im underage as well, but only til may, we should be having a big get together in the spring or something like that, alteast I cant see us not having one.

 

Yea and their own volvo engine. Im not sure what hes gonna get next, he has always been a detroit fan, had one in every truck he has owned, but volvo isnt offering them anymore.

 

Wow - thanks for that...makes an old man feel good.

 

yea im in for the big get together for sure in the spring

 

how much did you guys dealers charge you to install the stage 2 kit?

 

you guys said you race with evos right how much faster than a stock charged balt are they?

 

Evo's are slow.

ssadiction, what's your name anyway? Gonna let you take my car out for a ride, it will change your mind on the GM Stage 2. Worked for everyone else, plus I want to hear your Hahn exhaust compared to the Vibrant.

 

my names tim but everyone calles me by my list name tuttle...what do you mean about the stage 2 kit you dont like it ? i love my exhaust hows the vibrant sound?

 

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but does anyone want to chip in some cash and make up some decals? Since the Pittsburgh SS crew owns all, why not make up some decals? We could even make one that says "Pittsburgh SS Crew > All". lol. Or "Pittsburgh Area Cobalt SS's" or some ****. That way we'll look like tough guys and people will know we're not messin' around.

: P

Or as Dane Cook says, we'll be some serious BAMF's. Bad Ass ***** *******.

: D

And also, a HUGE Pittsburgh area SS meet in the spring FTW!