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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Linux>PC>Mac


The Penguin shall be king

Gentoo FTMFW btw.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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jailbreak the phone. if it is such a piece of crap then why do all the other phones want to be an iphone when they grow up?
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Umrdyldo, I hate MACs just as much as any person that is actually into computers and uses them for more than basic needs but you have to admit...OSX is far easier to navigate and operate for someone that is "technologically retarded" (like my Mom) than a PC is. You have to think of it as having never touched a computer before to fully grasp the simplicity of OSX.

Having said that...PCs are not difficult to use by any means and hopefully someday people will get off the I-" " fanbus and Apple will actually have to create something that is as universally open to 3rd party programs and devices as a Windows based computer to stay competitive. But until people come to the realization that Apple products are based solely on ripping you off...stupid overpriced things like the I-phone and I-pod and I-pad and I whatever the **** else they come up with will remain the latest fads.

PS. Anyone that bought an I-Pad should be punched right in the taint and have their soul removed.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DeepBlack SS
The Penguin shall be king

Gentoo FTMFW btw.
Indeed... the penguin!
Gentoo has a very nice GUI, and seems pretty user friendly.
Wasn't my cup of tea though... seemed a big 'full' for my liking.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
PS. Anyone that bought an I-Pad should be punched right in the taint and have their soul removed.
This
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chevy_cobalt_addict
i agree 100%

i got my 13" macbook aluminum about a year ago for a high school graduation gift. 1 year later this thing still operates as smoothly as it did when i first turned the thing on out of the box. ive never had to send it to apple, i never had to maintain the system, never ahd to de-frag the HDD, never had to download anything to protect my mac from viruses. all i do with it everyday is turn it on and use the thing.

good luck finding a PC that can do that
not ganna turn into a mac vs pc thing, but all of my pc's can do that. weather its my ibm laptop, hp with 512 gigs of ram from many years ago, or the supercomputer for gaming im on now.

but yes virus writers target pcs more than macs because people buy more pcs.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Alright you need to shut it. You only make yourself look stupid every time you post.

All that comes out is that you are too stupid to use a computer as it was intended.

Adobe CS5 is faster and better on PC. Why? Because it's 64bit and has more compatible graphics acceleration because there are more video cards available on PC.

Just because you think it's necessary to run Norton on a netbook, isn't the netbooks fault. You don't need anti-virus on a netbook if all you do is web browsing and tuning.

Learn to use a computer and then we will listen.

I'm not being a jerk just stating the obvious.

actually u fail pictar / video as well as music editing on macs > pcs... floating point gpu processing integration is a native function of mac desktops where as pcs are now integrating it
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
PS. Anyone that bought an I-Pad should be punched right in the taint and have their soul removed.

Over sized Ipod touch, anyone?

Originally Posted by 19transam81
jailbreak the phone. if it is such a piece of crap then why do all the other phones want to be an iphone when they grow up?
How do you have that figured?
Companies such as HTC were running Windows mobile PDA phones well before the Iphone was ever conceived.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5

Over sized Ipod touch, anyone?



How do you have that figured?
Companies such as HTC were running Windows mobile PDA phones well before the Iphone was ever conceived.
my htc tilt came out in 06-07 and was doing much more then the ipod the only thing the ipod has on it is the accelerometer.. which while it gives some useful features.. thats not something that was out then

also the iphone fails at one integral thing.. using it as a GOOD phone
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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My google G1 has an accelerometer and tilt sensors. Bought in Jan 09.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetsandman
ps. Anyone that bought an i-pad should be punched right in the taint and have their soul removed.
lmmfao
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
I must have missed that part earlier.... 4 years ago, information and tools for OSX+PC wasn't as readily available as it was, say, 2 years ago.
It's a different game now that Mac is playing nice with Intel.



Did you even read my post, or are you just arguing to argue?

You know that they make military grade PC's cheaper than most Macbooks, right? Are those 'cheap' and 'flimsy'?
When you talk about a PC, you need to realize that your Macbook uses the 90% of the same parts as a comparable PC.... screen, touchpad, processor, etc, etc, etc. It's just a piece of electronics that Apple charges out the ass for, cause it's 'OSX approved'.

And it's not that I 'like a PC'... it's that I don't like overpaying for some hyped up garbage, running a proprietary piece of software.

Technically Apple's BUS in the beginning was light years ahead of ibm's, they used USB for FSB, and it made the difference. It's technical name was Apple Desktop Bus (ADB)
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
actually u fail pictar / video as well as music editing on macs > pcs... floating point gpu processing integration is a native function of mac desktops where as pcs are now integrating it
Mac's are fine just to let you know my view on them, I just wont pay that much for a computer I can build myself (i know some people cant do that, but why not learn)

I dont understand how editing music and video can be better on the mac, much better components go into a lot of peoples pcs and they use a lot of the same programs?

help me to understand...
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Can OSX even do anything else?
Actually don't knock Apple's innovation with OSX, for one they do cater more to user than any version of Windows prior to 7, also you can't touch the design, it will look mroe appealing than any PC. And very easy to work on. That Apple does have going for them, I just don't see paying extra for hardware.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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It's software.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Mac's have their own software for video editing and music etc etc... its pretty easy to use...

but i am not going to say more bc i don't want to be drawn into this warp-hole of never ending bickering.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
actually u fail pictar / video as well as music editing on macs > pcs... floating point gpu processing integration is a native function of mac desktops where as pcs are now integrating it
Well i would like to see where you got your info from.

As far as I know it was introduced on MACs in Snow Leopard. So late summer last year?

It has been on PC for a hell of a long time. CUDA and Stream processing came out in 2007.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmarie619
Mac's have their own software for video editing and music etc etc... its pretty easy to use...

but i am not going to say more bc i don't want to be drawn into this warp-hole of never ending bickering.
hmmm, seems like a fad more than people knowing whats better for their money.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
Technically Apple's BUS in the beginning was light years ahead of ibm's, they used USB for FSB, and it made the difference.
Meh... there is a point where the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

From my perspective... PC = hundreds of companies designing the same thing... apple = one company designing one thing.
And until recently, the PC market was shadowing the Apple market... it wasn't until Apple pulled their head out of their ass and went pro-Intel, that things got decent. Still over priced, though.

Originally Posted by crypticscifer
Actually don't knock Apple's innovation with OSX, for one they do cater more to user than any version of Windows prior to 7, also you can't touch the design, it will look mroe appealing than any PC. And very easy to work on. That Apple does have going for them, I just don't see paying extra for hardware.
I dunno.. I've seen some sleek looking, and robust PC's before.
But that comes back to my previous statement; PC = hundreds of companies making similar products. The PC market can afford to cater to many different tastes in design.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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hmmm, seems like a fad more than people knowing whats better for their money.
Fad yes, but in reality people go for what is easiest, and Apple, they are VERY user friendly. Hell, it's part of their marketing design. Now I don't knock Apple capitalizing on the lazy people in the world. But I do for them ripping them off with prices. I bet $1000 they don't use all the profits on R&D. It's goes to pay for Job's lap dances'
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Omega_5
Meh... there is a point where the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

From my perspective... PC = hundreds of companies designing the same thing... apple = one company designing one thing.
And until recently, the PC market was shadowing the Apple market... it wasn't until Apple pulled their head out of their ass and went pro-Intel, that things got decent. Still over priced, though.



I dunno.. I've seen some sleek looking, and robust PC's before.
But that comes back to my previous statement; PC = hundreds of companies making similar products. The PC market can afford to cater to many different tastes in design.
Apple went Intel core because Intel was finally able to create procs as fast PowerPC/Motorola for Apple, years ago. You couldn't touch a PowerPC proc. Even Sony used it in the PS. It was able to calculate almost 100X what an Intel could.

I now it's WiKi but look that the speeds of the PowerPC chips back then....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...U_type#PowerPC

and the competitor at the time....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80386
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Well i would like to see where you got your info from.

As far as I know it was introduced on MACs in Snow Leopard. So late summer last year?

It has been on PC for a hell of a long time. CUDA and Stream processing came out in 2007.
no... its been several years now... i was in high school when i first used macs and their video/music editing programs.
its easy to use... the tools are clear.. blah blah. theres no "special" editions where you have to buy this program with the "special" to get everything.. its all in one simple program..

its just normal for ppl to have different preferences on how they want things to set up/ ran.
so technically all that matters is if the user is happy with what the choose in the end... no need to go back and forth doggin each other bc of different user preferences
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BumbleBee
hmmm, seems like a fad more than people knowing whats better for their money.
it's just ppls personal preferences. maybe for them it is best for their money then buying something they have no clue how to use or use correctly.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmarie619
its just normal for ppl to have different preferences on how they want things to set up/ ran.
so technically all that matters is if the user is happy with what the choose in the end... no need to go back and forth doggin each other bc of different user preferences
I totally agree, I boycott Apple as they try to skew where technology goes and it's not right who are they.
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Old May 18, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
I now it's WiKi but look that the speeds of the PowerPC chips back then....
The time frame of PPC was a bit closer to the early Pentium... '93-ish. And the Intel chips stacked up pretty well against them.

Apples original reason for using PPC was simply due to availability and cost effectiveness. They dropped the PPC processor in favour of the Intel, due to the fact that PowerPC's don't cope well with heat in demand situations... something the Intels are pretty good at.
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