They tried to compete yes, but couldn't. You agree for graphic rendering you need a combination of good CPU and GPU correct.

Source - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10264290-64.html
One oft-cited reason was that Apple didn't believe it could get the requisite performance per watt from processors being supplied by IBM and Freescale--formerly Motorola's chipmaking arm.

^^ Someone slipped up.

 

graphic rendering standardly only uses cpu and system ram.. the video card gpu is only for viewport working

cuda isnt integrated into most pc programs

further more .. I work at an animation studio that does motion graphics and 3d animation as well as after effects work.. a mac system is actually cheaper then a comparable cuda system.. not to mention. 3d max doesnt, maya and stuff dont have native renders (mental ray) that support cuda systems so you have to get an aftermarket renderer (which alot of cuda enabled renderers arent very developed)

video/ audio edit programs are light years better on macs.. they're just not made for pcs..

 

Maybe I missed what your saying there... but last I checked 3DS doesn't support OSX... and Maya just released support for 64bit systems only.

 

you can run it in round about ways.. ( idk if you can use the floating point advantages)

3d was brought up because thats really the only thing on pcs that uses cuda.. and even so it's not fully integrated..

 

What about adobe suite? It uses the crap out of cuda? How about the audio and video encoding programs that use gpgpu ? How about the amazing key cracking software that breaks wireless keys?

 

you do realize what you're saying right ? how much is a cuda card/ proprietary setup as well as the extra plugins you need to run cuda with said programs a cuda system STARTS at like 4600 bux the card itself is 1200 for the BASE model card. I'm by no means a mac fanboi.. frankly i hate them.. but i'm being honest with myself when i say .. sorry video editing/ audio editing and PS runs better on a mac ( maybe not when cs 5 comes out but thats to be determined) every mac desktop has floating 64 bit gpu processors ( that have a video board)

.. its not NATIVE for the adobe suites until cs5(from what i understand).. not to mention it's been working with floating point gpu processing on macs since cs3 and that doesnt excuse the fact that the best video editing and encoding programs as well as audio are still mac only ..

i say this doing these things for a living

 

I genuinely believe the I-pad marked the begin of the downfall of Apple. Sell your stock now. I mean honestly...what the **** were they thinking? "Let's take the I-pod touch...and make it less portable...and sell it for an absurd price!!!" Seriously...Apple has run out of ideas and retarded marketing ploys to put down Microsoft and has resorted to just creating the most mind-numbingly useless devices known to man by simply taking old devices...and relabeling them with different and less intuitive features. Sorry Steve, but the overpriced monotony has run its course and I anticipate a drastic price drop of Apple's products in the near future.

 

 

QFT!

 

Geez people, think OUTSIDE the box, it competes with the Amazon Kindle and Barnes and Noble's Nook. But still I think Apple needs to do something better like make it Flash compatible.

 

Lots of incorrect info here.


I know what systems your company buys. Look at soft modded consumer cards before prof grade cards. CUDA and stream processing is available in cards as low as the $50 range all the way up to the top of the line. I think you are confusing professional grade GPUs with consumer grade. Guess what the difference is? Drivers. CUDA is available in almost all new cards from NVIDIA.

CUDA and stream support started in CS4. You throw in SLI/Crossfire support and consumer grade systems compete with your $4500 prof grade system. Get into the 6 core AMD processors and there are instances where the MAC systems look more foolish than ever.

Try getting a 6 core processor on a MAC for $300

Hell go to the Apple store and price 12GB of memory. It's $1300 or you can go to newegg and get 12GB for $360 for a PC system.. Tell me it's better. Doesn't matter if the MAC has ECC memory or whatever doesn't make up for the 1k dollars.

 

I meant it differently, but yes that is more technical. In order to put what ever it is you need to the screen you need both.

 

the fact is, Apple is always 6 months or more behind now because of product development.

They will have 6 core processors sooner or later

They will have better GPUs in the Fermi class.

just not today tomorrow or next week.

 

lol!

 

PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rofl

 

zune hd ftw!

plus zune console is awesome for modifying the artists pictures on the hd

 

i love my zune

 

wait .. you're sorely mistaken as to what the true purpose of cuda is.. a "cuda enabled graphics card" is nothing like a REAL cuda card.. a tesla cuda system has a GPU card.. as well as a video board..

a tesla system is a personal supercomputer and the card used in it which has the equivalent of 128 computers is 1200+ dollars.. quality ram will not run you 300 bux.. you can also get 16 gb of ram for a mac for 1k shipped on newegg the same place where you can get equivalent pc ram for 900 bux. G skill ram does NOT count .. non paired single channel ram 3gb sticks will perform like **** compared to dual channeled 4gb sticks.. yes ECC server ram DOES make up for a huge portion of the cost

you seriously shouldn't be trying to go after me about this man.. my boss and i are currently building 2 tesla cuda PSC's one as a render server and one for my coworker.. we bought all our parts from new egg.. and without a legit T/C PSC card the cost for both of the systems hit 3k .. add into that the 3k extra for each psc card.. and no.. NO mac , or pc will touch one of those computers .. you're sorely mistaken if you think they can

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product..._M2070_us.html

this is a tesla card.. a straight up tesla card.. is very VERY different then a cuda enabled card..

further more.. i repeat macs had these cuda enabled featured settings in cs3 and possibly in cs2 but i dont remember off hand

please.. please.. try to come at me again.. a personal built cuda enabled pc will not ever stack up to a 4600 tesla cuda psc system lol

 

I would believe him man, he's a pretty smart guy from what i know, and from the sounds of it, knows what he's talking about.

 

youre failling to see what i do for a living lol or were you saying he should believe me ?

 

haha your just itching to go off on him

 

haha i mean i'm not mint on all this stuff.. but i do photoshop, aftereffects soundbooth and stuff at my job.. my computer that i'm on now ( my home computer) doesn't have a "cuda enabled card" but my work comp has a cuda enabled workstation card.. that comp has a quad core processor.. my home has a dual core, I have 4 gb on windows 7 work has 3gb on win xp . my the definition of his since my work comp is cuda enabled it should work alot better.. frankly it doesn't my home comp works as good as that comp.. because i have an extra gig of ram ( i'm sure windows 7 helps) but it's nothing like a 4500+ dollar tesla cuda system.. if you're going normal pc to normal pc.. a mack will win on that front lol they've had 64bit floating point gpu's for a long time i assue you it was implemented on the mainstream user for macs first..

also it's a pretty standard fact that macs perform better on those things lol mostly because on video/ sound editing they possess the best programs in the business lol

i love pcs but i'm man enough to admit they're not flawless.. but that doesn't mean i've ever jump ship on them lol

 

OK...even if it is meant to compete with those products (which, IMO, it's not). Would you spend more than double the price of a Kindle or Nook on an iPad? It's meant to compete with tablet PC's more than anything. Is it better than a Kindle or a Nook? Yes. Is it even half as good as a tablet PC? Not even close.

http://www.softsailor.com/news/16878...to-buy-it.html

The iPad seems to be in a new class of devices. Less useful than Tablet PC's and more useful than "one-track-mind" devices like the Kindle or Nook...yet more expensive than both...only Apple could come up with that type of dumb-as-**** logic.

 

sorry I did forget about Tesla systems. But how can you include a super computer in a MAC vs. PC talk. That's far from fair. Also, aren't Tesla systems Windows based?

 

Right so the people that were going to buy a kindle or nook, would buy the iPad since they want some features of a computer such as email/photo/media and your talking $489 compared to $499(starting), but you get more than a "one-track-mind". And people just go ape nuts for Apple products. Apple is trying to do with the iPad to mobile offices as to what they did with the iPhone and cell phones. But didn't want to drop sales so left phone support out.....

http://www.pcworld.com/article/18805...he_kindle.html

I trust PC World over some soft sailor....