06 SS/SC bouncing AFR and KR
06 SS/SC bouncing AFR and KR
So over the past few days I noticed my AFR gauge was bouncing even at idle. I will get a video this morning of the idle on a cold start up and after its warmed up. I thought it might be a dirty O2 but now when I get on the gass it piggs out at 20 untill I let off the gas, I also notice KR, But not concistant KR. Sometimes I can do a full pull from 40-100 and not see any, sometimes just getting on it to get up to speed, it will show up to 7 degrees for a split second. I will try to get a video of the KR today too..
Do I have an intake leak or possibly a bad upstream O2, No CEL yet, but I havent driven the car too much since I noticed the AFR and KR
What do you guys think??
AFR with cruise set at 80mph, you can hear and see when I get on the gass(5th no down shift)
VIDEO0035.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
EDIT: mods in sig...v
Edit 2: cleaned the MAF, upstream O2 and wideband O2, sprayed starting fluid around the engine bay and found no leak, checked intake and S/C bolts
EDIT 3: Now I have a code. P1133- Heated Oxygen Sensor Insufficient Switching Sensor 1.
Also the back of the car is still getting covered in soot like its running rich (not burning any oil) It always used to do this due to a canned GM tune, the wideband would always be a little rich



Video of cold start up
VIDEO0036.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
Pull showing almost no KR
VIDEO0037.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
same pull after I turned around with KR (withing 30 seconds of each other)
VIDEO0039.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
Do I have an intake leak or possibly a bad upstream O2, No CEL yet, but I havent driven the car too much since I noticed the AFR and KR
What do you guys think??
AFR with cruise set at 80mph, you can hear and see when I get on the gass(5th no down shift)
VIDEO0035.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
EDIT: mods in sig...v
Edit 2: cleaned the MAF, upstream O2 and wideband O2, sprayed starting fluid around the engine bay and found no leak, checked intake and S/C bolts
EDIT 3: Now I have a code. P1133- Heated Oxygen Sensor Insufficient Switching Sensor 1.
Also the back of the car is still getting covered in soot like its running rich (not burning any oil) It always used to do this due to a canned GM tune, the wideband would always be a little rich



Video of cold start up
VIDEO0036.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
Pull showing almost no KR
VIDEO0037.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
same pull after I turned around with KR (withing 30 seconds of each other)
VIDEO0039.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
Last edited by robertmichaels; May 20, 2012 at 09:43 PM.
Wow my 06 ss/sc is doing the same thing but the AFR is going down to 10.0 and stays there when under throttle. I have been trying to figure mine out for about two weeks now. No CEL so I don't know what is going on. Sub'd so maybe I can find out what is going on.
So over the past few days I noticed my AFR gauge was bouncing even at idle. I will get a video this morning of the idle on a cold start up and after its warmed up. I thought it might be a dirty O2 but now when I get on the gass it piggs out at 20 untill I let off the gas, I also notice KR, But not concistant KR. Sometimes I can do a full pull from 40-100 and not see any, sometimes just getting on it to get up to speed, it will show up to 7 degrees for a split second. I will try to get a video of the KR today too..
Do I have an intake leak or possibly a bad upstream O2, No CEL yet, but I havent driven the car too much since I noticed the AFR and KR
What do you guys think??
AFR with cruise set at 80mph, you can hear and see when I get on the gass(no down shift)
VIDEO0035.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
EDIT: mods in sig...v
Edit 2: cleaned the MAF, upstream O2 and wideband O2, sprayed starting fluid around the engine bay and found no leak, checked intake and S/C bolts
Do I have an intake leak or possibly a bad upstream O2, No CEL yet, but I havent driven the car too much since I noticed the AFR and KR
What do you guys think??
AFR with cruise set at 80mph, you can hear and see when I get on the gass(no down shift)
VIDEO0035.mp4 video by robertmichaels199 - Photobucket
EDIT: mods in sig...v
Edit 2: cleaned the MAF, upstream O2 and wideband O2, sprayed starting fluid around the engine bay and found no leak, checked intake and S/C bolts
Doesn't really sound like you have a problem to me. During normal operations afrs will flucutate even at idle.
The KR at random is probably "false knock" ZZP wrote an artical about that. If you do a 40-100 mph pull without KR you should be okay. Espessly if its 7 degrees for a split second. If you had real KR of 7 degrees it would take 7 seconds to return to 0, as the PCM decreases KR at a rate of about 1 degree per second.
Doesn't really sound like you have a problem to me. During normal operations afrs will flucutate even at idle.
The KR at random is probably "false knock" ZZP wrote an artical about that. If you do a 40-100 mph pull without KR you should be okay. Espessly if its 7 degrees for a split second. If you had real KR of 7 degrees it would take 7 seconds to return to 0, as the PCM decreases KR at a rate of about 1 degree per second.
The KR at random is probably "false knock" ZZP wrote an artical about that. If you do a 40-100 mph pull without KR you should be okay. Espessly if its 7 degrees for a split second. If you had real KR of 7 degrees it would take 7 seconds to return to 0, as the PCM decreases KR at a rate of about 1 degree per second.
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