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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Engine is dead

I did a large install and tried to start the car only to have is destroy a starter. After some searching we found coolent in the engine.

Anybody know a good place to get a cheap motor?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Take out loan, buy crate engine, go nutz.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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Classifieds on here, local junkyards

Morad Motorparts in Ohio has some decent deals. They also have an eBay store. Usually they will give you a good deal if you call it.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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Classifieds on here, local junkyards

Morad Motorparts in Ohio has some decent deals. They also have an eBay store. Usually they will give you a good deal if you call it.
This^
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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you have a link to this place or a phone number?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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http://www.moradpartscompany.com/

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cobal...Q5fAccessories

Ehhh first of all do you have a LSJ?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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sorry to hear that try

www.car-part.com for local deals
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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ya it is an LSJ ss/sc 2007. Thanks for the quick replies btw!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Suck to hear this!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Ya this has been the worst experience ever. Friend and I installed the following. OTTP Stage 2 kit w/mps, OTTP H/E, Option B, OTTP stage 2 trans mounts. Never even got to ride in it. I assume a hose got connected wrong or something. It tooks us 2 days of cussing then 3 weeks of trial and error till we found the culprit.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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How exactly did you cause a big enough coolant leak to flood the cylinders enough to kill it? Nothing you installed should have been near the coolant. Did you take off the intake manifold or something for a dual pass and mess up the install?
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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We don't know yet. The engine is coming out tomorrow. We installed a duall pass but I don't understand what could be leaking.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wesphily
We don't know yet. The engine is coming out tomorrow. We installed a duall pass but I don't understand what could be leaking.
One of the seals on the laminova's or end plate could have started leaking badly and the IC system coolant could have flooded the intake and gotten into the engine. That's the best answer I can think of. Is the level of the coolant in the IC system low?

I believe coolant can damage and weaken the cylinders and stuff... But instead of taking the engine out and doing all that work, why not try to suck all of the coolant out and get the engine running? A teardown is exponentially more work. I'd chance it before I pulled the engine.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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When you install dual pass, don't you need to swap around the laminova's in a differen't order?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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When you install dual pass, don't you need to swap around the laminova's in a differen't order?
Yes you do you need to flip the top 2 around if I remember correctly
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Yes you do you need to flip the top 2 around if I remember correctly
Middle two cores get flipped so the coolant flows properly in top/bottom and out middles.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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The motor may still be good. I don't think the starter is strong enough to bend a rod, which is why it probably killed the starter. Find out where the coolant is coming from and fix the problem then make sure you flush the engine oil to remove any coolant that may be in it as well as getting the coolant out of the cylinders.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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The motor may still be good. I don't think the starter is strong enough to bend a rod, which is why it probably killed the starter. Find out where the coolant is coming from and fix the problem then make sure you flush the engine oil to remove any coolant that may be in it as well as getting the coolant out of the cylinders.
Exactly! He said in another thread that the starter kept shattering teeth, so it would have broken the starter before it broke the engine. I do believe though that coolant can weaken the sleeves possibly? But yes, I'd pull the intake mani off, suck the coolant out of the cylinders, change oil, clear everything well, and try to turn the engine over... Certainly worth a try!
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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If rods aren't bent then we may try to reuse the motor. Can somebody verify the switching of the lamnovas for the dual pass endplate?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wesphily
If rods aren't bent then we may try to reuse the motor. Can somebody verify the switching of the lamnovas for the dual pass endplate?
Typically the top and bottom laminovas have the big openings out and the middle two have the small opening out. If you damaged the seals on the laminova that could cause leaking into the intake manifold as well.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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I verified it on post 17...

If you want the directions goto crateenginedepot.com and they have a PDF of the install from GM posted on the product page.
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