Water pump question
What you are missing is @ 190 the radiator should be hot not cold. No circulation at all, only reason it isnt over heating is due to, I am assuming cause it is kinda circulating through the heater and the thermostat is opening and has to be some what flowing through the heater. I am changing the water pump. I am thinking the PLASTIC impeller has an issue.
Im having a hard time believing that the car isnt going into nuclear melt down mode pretty quick if you were driving it with no water pump. It isnt a common problem to lose a water pump unless you are at very high miles, before tearing into it for real i would at least try what ecaulk suggested.
Some people have had a **** fit getting all of the air out of this system even using the same method as staged.
First thing in the morning when its cool im gonna check for sure but im almost positive that my upper radiator hose doesn't start to get warm till over 200 on the first start
Some people have had a **** fit getting all of the air out of this system even using the same method as staged.
First thing in the morning when its cool im gonna check for sure but im almost positive that my upper radiator hose doesn't start to get warm till over 200 on the first start
Im having a hard time believing that the car isnt going into nuclear melt down mode pretty quick if you were driving it with no water pump. It isnt a common problem to lose a water pump unless you are at very high miles, before tearing into it for real i would at least try what ecaulk suggested.
Some people have had a **** fit getting all of the air out of this system even using the same method as staged.
First thing in the morning when its cool im gonna check for sure but im almost positive that my upper radiator hose doesn't start to get warm till over 200 on the first start
Some people have had a **** fit getting all of the air out of this system even using the same method as staged.
First thing in the morning when its cool im gonna check for sure but im almost positive that my upper radiator hose doesn't start to get warm till over 200 on the first start
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Sean, I am fighting the same problems as you, recently installed a new LDK engine in my 09 and I have put several thousand miles on it since and I have problems with temp wanting to fluctuate from 198 to 230 and it depends if I am under light boost(hills) or not. When on level ground it seems to stabilize around 208. When the outside temp is warmer the engine runs cooler, when the outside temp is cooler the engine runs warmer, I have tried everything I can think of to purge engine from air and today I installed an inline radiator neck right where the upper radiator hose comes from the block, thinking I could get a better fill. I just ran the car and temp went to 240 with the radiator and lower radiator hose remaining cool, upper radiator hose is warm, I also put on a new radiator a couple weeks ago. I am thinking thermostat but I have a new engine and you said you tried that with no luck.
Well today I finally got it fixed. I drained the block via the water pump drain, pulled thermostat drilled 2 small I mean small holes in it, then filled the water neck through thermostat hole, reinstalled thermostat, filled the rest of the block through head reinstalled rad hose, radiator filled through upper hose, fill overflow reservoir, ran engine for 3 min @ 2500 rpm for 3 min idle for 30 sec the turned off, let it cool drive. I drove the car for 35-40 min not letting rpm get above 2500rpm. and never got above 180 while driving, at stop lights never abover 185 then dropped back down to 178. When I got home I let it idle till fans kicked on at 195 then dropped to 178, radiator got hot and built pressure. I am so damn glad this thing is finally good to go. Oh yeah for the fist 15 min I left the radiator cap loose the tightened for reset of drive.
Good to hear Sean ,Did you access your thermostat from the top or bottom, if from the top did you remove fuse box or anything else, did you remove hoses from thermostat housing? Post back after you have driven your car for a day or two.
On the LSJ's it is easiest to get to thermostat from the top. The first time was kinda a pain but after taking it out a few times i became a pro... Lol onr thing I did notice is mine didn't fall into place very well. I needed to use a screw driver to seat it, I didnt notice that till the last time. And I will let you know how it goes this week.
Installed new thermostat, drilled small hole and oriented it to the top, filled system and let run for about 30 minutes with reservoir cap off, squeezed on upper and lower radiator hoses then let cool down. Drove it to work and back today, 120 mile round trip, temp got up to 250 all time high, lower radiator hose still cool and radiator barely warm.
Installed new thermostat, drilled small hole and oriented it to the top, filled system and let run for about 30 minutes with reservoir cap off, squeezed on upper and lower radiator hoses then let cool down. Drove it to work and back today, 120 mile round trip, temp got up to 250 all time high, lower radiator hose still cool and radiator barely warm.
She is doing well, today didnt go above 180, it was alittle cooler today but stayed cool. Only thing today I had it stumbled really bad when I got into boost the first time. After that was fine went to revlimiter. You have to have air still trapped. Some Where else in the system. The holes in the thermostat sound have taken care of that though. What size hole did you put in it? One thing you may try it take out the thermo and put in one that has the spring and all removed from it and install. Meaning gutt a old thermo and just use the upper portion of it. So there is no restriction. Ti see it the rad gets hot. Hope that makes since. I use to do that back in the day with my carb engines
She is doing well, today didnt go above 180, it was alittle cooler today but stayed cool. Only thing today I had it stumbled really bad when I got into boost the first time. After that was fine went to revlimiter. You have to have air still trapped. Some Where else in the system. The holes in the thermostat sound have taken care of that though. What size hole did you put in it? One thing you may try it take out the thermo and put in one that has the spring and all removed from it and install. Meaning gutt a old thermo and just use the upper portion of it. So there is no restriction. Ti see it the rad gets hot. Hope that makes since. I use to do that back in the day with my carb engines
I agree that there is probably still air in the system but where and how to get it out. I drilled a 7/64(.109) hole.
Dont do it to the one you delrilled holes in, do you have the old one still? How you do it is flip it over and cut the two side pieces that hold the spring and plunger to the main body. All you want is the top section so it looks like a big washer with out he guts. Cut the sides in this picture. And I drilled the hole on the outside silver ring not in the center
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Let me ask you this... when adding new coolant.... are you filling it as per the factory fill procedure? Water pump going bad are possible but not common on these cars.
I fill the block first, then radiator, then coolant tank which it self fills when I fill radiator, then I let the engine idle untill temp climbs to around 230 then shut it off and let it sit overnight with resevoir cap off. From what I have read temp should never climb that high before it drops. Coolant fans come on at 194. This is a new LDK engine but was having exact same problems with LNF after cracked block, replaced radiator and thermostat.
Try removing the line that goes to the coolant tank, and putting vacuum there. On the LNF that ends up being the point where air comes out unless its trapped behind the T-stat.



