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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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the breather hose nipple is being moved so it will fit, sometime this week i am going there and there doing some testing on mine and moving the nipple and what not
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 02:55 AM
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i asked for none on my and i just putted in a small Valve Cover Filter on it.. until i can buy a Oil Catch Can
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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......so im a newb....my ss/sc is my first car....i love my car by i dont know jack squat about modding it...
if i were to get this CAI what would i also need?
1) filter
2) new throttle body?! (is my stock one usable wit this cai?)
3) couplers? (is it extra on top of this CAI?)
4) what else is NECESSARY to be replaced for this CAI?!
5) adapter plate?! (whats that?)

......god im so noob...
oh and how hard is this to install?!
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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this is probably the easiest power mod you could ever do it involves taking out the old intake and putting in this one plus connecting up the maf and that stuff

filter comes with
stock TB is fine
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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sign me up!! i want black couplers tho please!
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ijak
......so im a newb....my ss/sc is my first car....i love my car by i dont know jack squat about modding it...
if i were to get this CAI what would i also need?
1) filter
2) new throttle body?! (is my stock one usable wit this cai?)
3) couplers? (is it extra on top of this CAI?)
4) what else is NECESSARY to be replaced for this CAI?!
5) adapter plate?! (whats that?)

......god im so noob...
oh and how hard is this to install?!
1) filter -> comes with the intake
2) new throttle body -> isn't needed, it is an option though, you need the spacer to swap it.
3) couplers -> comes with the intake
4) what else is NECESSARY -> nothing
5) adapter plate -> is a spacer that lets you run a bigger throttle body (see note 2)

Replacing the intake is as simple as:
1) Removing anything in your way (headlight, headlight mount, wheel, inner fender... depends on your way of attacking this project.
2) Removing the MAF sensor plug and vent tube from the stock intake.
3) Remove the stock intake assembly (undo 3 bolts, remove tube from SC)
4) Swap the MAF sensor tot he new intake.
5) Install new intake
6) Replace the MAF plug and vent tube.
7) Replace cover and other parts (HL, HL mount, inner fender, wheel)

As mentioned, you can either install it by taking out the headlight, or the inner fender. I prefer to do both, as it gives me more room to work, which in turn leads to less fitment issues and a more quality install.
The whole process shouldn't take more than a few hours if your new to modding.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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nice guide!! thx Omega!
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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wow id love to see a pic of it on a 2.2.. wonder if its short ram or CAI.. id be afraid of snow getting sucked into it because snow builds up under my car quick lol or would that one injen cover help that??
what is the stock TB on a 2.2 and if i wanted to go bigger TB am i able to and how would tuning options work?? I am very very interested in this CAI if it works good with the 2.2
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt4Life
wow id love to see a pic of it on a 2.2.. wonder if its short ram or CAI.. id be afraid of snow getting sucked into it because snow builds up under my car quick lol or would that one injen cover help that??
what is the stock TB on a 2.2 and if i wanted to go bigger TB am i able to and how would tuning options work?? I am very very interested in this CAI if it works good with the 2.2
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...06#post1265706
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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Got 7 now

We also make one for the 2.2L, it's a full CAI that pulls the air from under the left light, NOT just a short ram
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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Thank you omega!!! looks awesome.. will i need a tune because of the huge difference, sorry i dont have really any knowledge of what needs tuned when changed other than forced induction.. some people were saying about a tune.. but i no 2.2s dont really have any.. but the 2.4 and 2.0s do..
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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generally you dont need tunes w/ bolt ons
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Greased
generally you dont need tunes w/ bolt ons
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt4Life
Thank you omega!!! looks awesome.. will i need a tune because of the huge difference, sorry i dont have really any knowledge of what needs tuned when changed other than forced induction.. some people were saying about a tune.. but i no 2.2s dont really have any.. but the 2.4 and 2.0s do..
Greased is right, most bolt ons don't require a tune...
In the case of the SS/SC motors... we generally should be tuned after a significant amount of bolt on parts, just because the ECU is so picky... plus it allows us to properly optimize.

But... generally 2.4 and 2.2 don't really ever have to be tuned unless you go nutty with the power adders.... even cams don't have to be tuned.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jumpin Fool
i dont get it wahts so funny??? on this car its true if your gonna be super literal and count every car ever made then fine but i was talking about the cobalt and i dont think ive ever heard of someone tuning after an intake or an exhaust or headers
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Greased
i dont get it wahts so funny??? on this car its true if your gonna be super literal and count every car ever made then fine but i was talking about the cobalt and i dont think ive ever heard of someone tuning after an intake or an exhaust or headers
ok, ok, relax
You'll get a lot worse than me on here. If you're that thin-skinned, the internet isn't the place for you.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Greased
i dont get it wahts so funny??? on this car its true if your gonna be super literal and count every car ever made then fine but i was talking about the cobalt and i dont think ive ever heard of someone tuning after an intake or an exhaust or headers
I would, especially after installing a 3" intake. Your MAF will be all screwed up.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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so i would have to get my car tuned after the 3 inch intake.. only tuning i no of is the AEM system
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt4Life
so i would have to get my car tuned after the 3 inch intake.. only tuning i no of is the AEM system
Not a big issue for you guys who are N/A.... I highly doubt the car is going to lean out from a minor MAF reading.
Us SC guys are pulling alot more air into the engine... a screwed up MAF reading can do nasty things to us.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SJSchafer
I would, especially after installing a 3" intake. Your MAF will be all screwed up.
i should tune after putting this intake on?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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i guess i should get my ECU checked up then :P
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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Omega_5 and I talked a while and I think I might very well get in on this. There is still the issue of my 1/2 inch spacer (supercharger to intake manifold), which I brought up with rebel before. I don't think we resolved that really other than you guys could make it work. I would be getting a new TB, TB spacer (possibly tapped), and intake. Is this going to line up? My injen currently is barely making the connection and the rubber joiner is doing most of the work. The one provided here looks even smaller, so I worry.

I'm tapping for my new methanol kit. Still up in the air if I'm going pre-blower or post. I think I read various places saying it was bad to run it through the supercharger. Anyone can help me with that call?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by liolixli
Omega_5 and I talked a while and I think I might very well get in on this. There is still the issue of my 1/2 inch spacer (supercharger to intake manifold), which I brought up with rebel before. I don't think we resolved that really other than you guys could make it work. I would be getting a new TB, TB spacer (possibly tapped), and intake. Is this going to line up? My injen currently is barely making the connection and the rubber joiner is doing most of the work. The one provided here looks even smaller, so I worry.

I'm tapping for my new methanol kit. Still up in the air if I'm going pre-blower or post. I think I read various places saying it was bad to run it through the supercharger. Anyone can help me with that call?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by neb07ss/sc
i should tune after putting this intake on?
Well, your MAF sensor tells your ECM how much air is going into your engine. With a bigger intake the MAF sensor should be recalibrated. The trims will help keep you at 14.7 during normal driving conditions, but you should expect PE to be leaner with a 3" than with the stock intake.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SJSchafer
Well, your MAF sensor tells your ECM how much air is going into your engine. With a bigger intake the MAF sensor should be recalibrated. The trims will help keep you at 14.7 during normal driving conditions, but you should expect PE to be leaner with a 3" than with the stock intake.
there is a reason the GM tunes come pig rich (they know we like to play with parts), this intake actually get's the afr's out of the 10's and closer to the 11's during WOT.

Of course tuning is always going to give the perfect result, but not without a wideband.

Originally Posted by liolixli
Omega_5 and I talked a while and I think I might very well get in on this. There is still the issue of my 1/2 inch spacer (supercharger to intake manifold), which I brought up with rebel before. I don't think we resolved that really other than you guys could make it work. I would be getting a new TB, TB spacer (possibly tapped), and intake. Is this going to line up? My injen currently is barely making the connection and the rubber joiner is doing most of the work. The one provided here looks even smaller, so I worry.

I'm tapping for my new methanol kit. Still up in the air if I'm going pre-blower or post. I think I read various places saying it was bad to run it through the supercharger. Anyone can help me with that call?
if you wish to use this intake with our 3.5" TB spacer, then we make the intake slightly shorter and we recommend a 3.5-3" coupler (extra $17 black, red, blue).

I always recommend post blower, but there hasn't been anything concrete for proof.

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