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Old May 7, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Replace 2.4 springs with 2.2 springs

Yes you heard to right. Replace 2.4 springs with 2.2 springs. I want my car to be a more comfortable daily driver but keep that 2.4 engine. I would imagine that it wouldn't be to difficult to have someone trade springs with me. Has anyone does this. If so did ride comfort improve. I would be leaving the 2.4 ss larger lower control arms in however. It would likely just be a strut/spring swap. Should fit no prob. right. Same chassis, same connecting point and dimensions. Just different spring rate. right?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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i cant for the life of me figure out why???
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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your not going to gain much from it. when i went from the 2.2 springs to the ssc springs i didn't see much loss of ride quality. I don't think you'll gain a thing.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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you wont notice anything lol
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Old May 7, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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buy the eibach pro kit...my 2.4 rides 100% better than the stock springs...and it's lowered but not a ton.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Eiback eh. I've heard some good things about them. It terms of riding better, could you be more specific. Are we looking at smoother, better handling, firmer? And you mentioned lowered ride height? Is not the ride stiffer once lowered? What about bottoming out on the occassional monster pot hole? I'm in the Northeast after all, the roads get worse every year...Damn plows
I checked prices out. Doesn't seem to bad. Wouldn't I run into trouble with alignment? Ie: camber, toe, that sort of thing?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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If you switched to 16" or even 15" rims with a taller profile tire you would improve your ride. There is probably a few people here that would love to trade there 16" for your 17".
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Old May 7, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jsscooby
Eiback eh. I've heard some good things about them. It terms of riding better, could you be more specific. Are we looking at smoother, better handling, firmer? And you mentioned lowered ride height? Is not the ride stiffer once lowered? What about bottoming out on the occassional monster pot hole? I'm in the Northeast after all, the roads get worse every year...Damn plows
I checked prices out. Doesn't seem to bad. Wouldn't I run into trouble with alignment? Ie: camber, toe, that sort of thing?
all of the above...it's stiffer in corners...smoother over bumps and daily driving. the handling is all around better. the Prokit doesn't drop the 2.4 much...it just evens out the body ( i have yet to bottom out, and i live in western ny. i drive on some of the worst roads ever). the drop isn't enough that you'd have to have an alignment but i would suggest it. they pretty much drop you to the height of a stock ss/sc, with a better all around feel.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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If you switched to 16" or even 15" rims with a taller profile tire you would improve your ride. There is probably a few people here that would love to trade there 16" for your 17".
Dennis
I doubt 15's would clear the brakes. 16's might. But i'd go with the Eibachs and leave the tires/wheels alone.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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please dont do this...you will not be able to notice much so IMO its just not worth it. if your looking to get a better ride just get the eibachs they will make the ride better and your car look better
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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Good point LewiSS, I didn't think about that.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Eibachs are sounding better. I was eyeing the balt and I do think she would look good 1" lower. Close that fender gap a little bit. Time to pull out the old spring compressor and get to work, some time anyway.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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Our Cobalts will never ride like a Deville, sorry man. The Eibach's will improve the feel but all drop springs are a little rougher feeling then the stockers are. So if you looking for a smooth riding Balt your best bet would be getting rid of your factory 17's in favor of some 16's. The taller sidewalls give a smother ride. LewiSS is right, 15's will not clear the calipers, without some grinding that is.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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I run on Eibach Sportlines, and I find that the ride quality is 100x better on these springs then the stockers.
While it is true that you can feel more vibrations from the divits and cracks in the road, I find it to be a smoother ride over them. With the stockers, I found the ride very bouncy, so not only did you get the initial bump, but several afterward as well... On the sportlines, you get the initial bump, but then nothing and it's smooth again.

That and there is basically no body roll what so every in daily start&stop of highway driving.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MaJ
I run on Eibach Sportlines, and I find that the ride quality is 100x better on these springs then the stockers.
While it is true that you can feel more vibrations from the divits and cracks in the road, I find it to be a smoother ride over them. With the stockers, I found the ride very bouncy, so not only did you get the initial bump, but several afterward as well... On the sportlines, you get the initial bump, but then nothing and it's smooth again.

That and there is basically no body roll what so every in daily start&stop of highway driving.
Thats funny. i dont' get the bouncy effect with my stockers. Maybe because its fairly new still . 1700miles
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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MaJ
I run on Eibach Sportlines, and I find that the ride quality is 100x better on these springs then the stockers.
While it is true that you can feel more vibrations from the divits and cracks in the road, I find it to be a smoother ride over them. With the stockers, I found the ride very bouncy, so not only did you get the initial bump, but several afterward as well... On the sportlines, you get the initial bump, but then nothing and it's smooth again.

That and there is basically no body roll what so every in daily start&stop of highway driving.
thats what i had...i'd go over 1 set of railroad tracks and it would feel like i went over 4. i hated it but now that i have the prokit, 1 bump and that's it. love em'.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Try dropping your tire pressure by 3 psi, and if that makes it good enough, get some 65 series tires to reaplace yours.

Running your tires low will reduce bumps, but will also reduce tire life and will increase tire heat.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
Try dropping your tire pressure by 3 psi, and if that makes it good enough, get some 65 series tires to reaplace yours.

Running your tires low will reduce bumps, but will also reduce tire life and will increase tire heat.
I'll try that. I'm worried about vibration though. Whent he car was delivered 3 tires were 10 psr low and one was 8 and it vibrated a lot at 45mph and aboce. Then again were only talkin 3 psi. i'll give it a try. prob wont effect mpg much. When I put the extra 10 psi in to there recommend 35 psi, my mpg only went up about 2 mpg. Thanks for the tip. Im gonna stay away from 65 profile. Yuck. That would be maybe a 15 inch rim and I heard rumor that the SS brakes wont clear smaller than 16. One day there will be a suspension that handles well and is also luxury. I here BOSE. yes BOSE is coming out with some funky electronic suspension that does just that. For real do a search.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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I'll try that. I'm worried about vibration though. Whent he car was delivered 3 tires were 10 psr low and one was 8 and it vibrated a lot at 45mph and aboce. Then again were only talkin 3 psi. i'll give it a try. prob wont effect mpg much. When I put the extra 10 psi in to there recommend 35 psi, my mpg only went up about 2 mpg. Thanks for the tip. Im gonna stay away from 65 profile. Yuck. That would be maybe a 15 inch rim and I heard rumor that the SS brakes wont clear smaller than 16. One day there will be a suspension that handles well and is also luxury. I here BOSE. yes BOSE is coming out with some funky electronic suspension that does just that. For real do a search.
Don't ever let them get 10psi low. You are taking a BIG risk if they are that low. If you keep your tires 3 psi low, they will wear faster, maybe lose about 5000 mi of life of the tire. If you let your tires get too low, you risk tread seperation like the firestones on explores several years ago.

Don't you have 55 series tires right now? 65 series would only be about 1/2" taller. You should be able to find 65 series tires that fit the 17 in rims that you have. Just get the numbers from your tires (215 55 R17, something like that) and look for some that have the middle number 65 and the others matching your current tires.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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thats stupiest thing i heard
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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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thats stupiest thing i heard
I think its just you.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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lol ^ i think that made my day.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by YSUsteven
Don't ever let them get 10psi low. You are taking a BIG risk if they are that low. If you keep your tires 3 psi low, they will wear faster, maybe lose about 5000 mi of life of the tire. If you let your tires get too low, you risk tread seperation like the firestones on explores several years ago.

Don't you have 55 series tires right now? 65 series would only be about 1/2" taller. You should be able to find 65 series tires that fit the 17 in rims that you have. Just get the numbers from your tires (215 55 R17, something like that) and look for some that have the middle number 65 and the others matching your current tires.
i have 50 profile stock (205/50/R17). i never put the tires 10 psi low myslef. Lazy dealership never checked them before delivering the car. Putting 65 series on stock rims. That would for sure mess up the speedo and probably cause so scraping in the fender well.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jsscooby
i have 50 profile stock (205/50/R17). i never put the tires 10 psi low myslef. Lazy dealership never checked them before delivering the car. Putting 65 series on stock rims. That would for sure mess up the speedo and probably cause so scraping in the fender well.
I don't think that it would scrape in the wells, the SS/SC has an option for 18" wheels, and they don't scrape. Yes, you would have to get the computer flashed to correct the speedo. Can't you get HP tuners?

Mine were down 5 psi when I picked mine up, felt like it floated around corners. Now back up to 30psi and it grips in the corners.
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