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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Guys this is just the list price. There is always a sale when new things come out. and if you still don't like the sale price then go waste $200 on a set of poly ones that will fall apart.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Why does maven have the control arms yet on the site it's just the bushings.
Are the bushings the only things changed on mavens?
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by daythecountrydied21
Why does maven have the control arms yet on the site it's just the bushings.
Are the bushings the only things changed on mavens?
if you dont have the ss line you need the control arms AND bushings.. because it has stamped POS control arms ask fast but i think all ions need them too but i could be wrong
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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I'd like to upgrade to these and wouldn't mind paying for them. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure I don't have aluminum control arms. Not 100% sure though.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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For the guys that don't have control arms I will be able to get some used ones and maybe some new ones if need be.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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As most of their stuff. It seems its more about **** rape than helping further our after market. But they are all good products just overpriced by a long shot.
these prices are MORE than reasonable for a RACE PROVEN set of control arms. not a single other company on here offers proven components off REAL race cars.

keep the good **** coming OTT
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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hey josh....are you going to offer a .99 cent value option of these....i feel like I need to go play around the mcdonalds playground.

These are more than reasonable for a RACE PROVEN SET.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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HK, these only work in the aluminum control arms, doesnt matter what trans you have.

so if i get a set of alum. control arms from josh as well, then i would be set, correct?
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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i think you misunderstood spike. he's not agreeing with you....

good product! i suppose if this doent work on the F23, it definitely wont work on a 4t45...lol
hey josh, the steering rack spacers will still work on my auto cobalt, right? or would it only fit on a manual? I would imagine tranny wouldnt affect anything
I understand that but I agree with him on the opposite, honda owners will over pay for ****.

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these prices are MORE than reasonable for a RACE PROVEN set of control arms. not a single other company on here offers proven components off REAL race cars.
I am not saying its not a good product, and maybe I missed something but the link from above is a control arm bushings not control arms and that is not a $250 dollar product no matter how you look at it, not even half that price. Full modified control arm MAYBE. This is a product that is just improved on something that is already out there. I am sorry if you guys get offended but its just my opinion. Not all racing products should be outrages in price just because it says "RACE" proven.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
I understand that but I agree with him on the opposite, honda owners will over pay for ****.



I am not saying its not a good product, and maybe I missed something but the link from above is a control arm bushings not control arms and that is not a $250 dollar product no matter how you look at it, not even half that price. Full modified control arm MAYBE. This is a product that is just improved on something that is already out there. I am sorry if you guys get offended but its just my opinion. Not all racing products should be outrages in price just because it says "RACE" proven.
a TVS is just an improved version of something already out there too... Almost everything in the car world is. Cars are VERY old in design, and new innovations are rare, and almost never come to the aftermarket first, so all of this is just a different versionof something thats already out there. perhaps you should talk to josh/maven/quik and have them explain why this part makes as big a difference as it does.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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I know how things work and maybe thats why I understand whats a reasonable price and a ridiculous price.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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do you understand the time and machine work behind these? go ahead and screw up a set of control arms trying to get these to fit without the proper machining. go a head and be half a millimeter to wide and see what happens.

it's all fine and dandy when you think they should be cheaper, but YOU can't reproduce these to this exact spec for less than what he is asking for a set already done
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
do you understand the time and machine work behind these? go ahead and screw up a set of control arms trying to get these to fit without the proper machining. go a head and be half a millimeter to wide and see what happens.

it's all fine and dandy when you think they should be cheaper, but YOU can't reproduce these to this exact spec for less than what he is asking for a set already done
Yes I competently under stand do you? I am glad YOU think that.


I don't see what warrants the price difference of the set that is already available.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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::shrugs:: thats fine. continue being cheap with your car.

cheap parts net cheap results.

why do the intense poly bushings and everyone else's fail?

think about this for a second before you jump my ass about pricing.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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how much would a shop charge to put these in, i can never get ball joints off
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
::shrugs:: thats fine. continue being cheap with your car.

cheap parts net cheap results.

why do the intense poly bushings and everyone else's fail?

think about this for a second before you jump my ass about pricing.
Not all fail very very few out of the bunch do. And I was in no way jumping your ass or even bashing this product. I am sure its a great product, I just wanted to why they are at such a high price. The R&D answer is BS, every product on the market goes through a R&D period. You don't try and recoup that money up front but in the long run. R&D should play a very VERY small role in the overall pricing of an item.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
Not all fail very very few out of the bunch do. And I was in no way jumping your ass or even bashing this product. I am sure its a great product, I just wanted to why they are at such a high price. The R&D answer is BS, every product on the market goes through a R&D period. You don't try and recoup that money up front but in the long run. R&D should play a very VERY small role in the overall pricing of an item.
because these are made for durability and performance.. ... poly bushings will always crack and brake down and be less effective over time..

these are a one time shot
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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They look great guys!
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
because these are made for durability and performance.. ... poly bushings will always crack and brake down and be less effective over time..

these are a one time shot
NO, no they won't.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
NO, no they won't.
... sure , sure they wont... rigid materials break down over time.. the point of the poly mounts is to not move.. ...
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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and these mounts are not made to be rigid? There is a limit to every thing of course.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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NO, no they won't.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/control-arm-bushings-destroyed-pics-inside-54541/

Have you used them on your car before?

Its a well known fact that poly cab's fail all the time.

Look at that thread thats before i was even a vendor when they came out. The failed in 3 months of use.

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
and these mounts are not made to be rigid? There is a limit to every thing of course.
these aren't poly as i remember .. correct me if i'm wrong someone.. if you're just going to **** on their price.. do it your self and GTFO kthxbai
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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NO, no they won't.
Originally Posted by RBC
and these mounts are not made to be rigid? There is a limit to every thing of course.
Please just stop posting and visit your local technical college before further contributing to this discussion.

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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RBC
I understand that but I agree with him on the opposite, honda owners will over pay for ****.



I am not saying its not a good product, and maybe I missed something but the link from above is a control arm bushings not control arms and that is not a $250 dollar product no matter how you look at it, not even half that price. Full modified control arm MAYBE. This is a product that is just improved on something that is already out there. I am sorry if you guys get offended but its just my opinion. Not all racing products should be outrages in price just because it says "RACE" proven.
Well I dont think that $250 is outrageous, its actually only $8 more than what Ive seen JBP's for.....And its $51 more than the cheapest Ive seen poly bushings for.
But these ARE NOT polyurethane bushings. These are greased, weathersealed, OEM cross axial joints. These have free range of motion, they actually REDUCE the amount of effort it takes to move the control arm, as opposed to polys which increase it and force the suspension to fight the bushing.

You MIGHT buy full modded control arms for $250....LMFAO, your gonna spend close to $300 just for STOCK FE5 arms......nevermind full race arms which run near the $1000 mark.(and arent street friendly like these joints are)
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I don't see what warrants the price difference of the set that is already available.
Well its kinda been covered, but there isnt really that big a price difference from whats already available, and more importantly these are superior to poly joints because they dont work simply by trying to bind the suspension up. They actually alow your suspension to do its job better....which something a poly bushing(regardless of whether or not they are prone to cracking) can never truthfully claim
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