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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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What are my options? Rubbing badly

My car is rubbing my feder really badly in the rear to the point where I cannot even have passengers in my car. I am currently lowered on Ark GT-F springs that I have been told compare to eibach sportlines and have MSR 045 wheels with 225/45/18 tires. I am aware that I need to be using a 225/40/18 tires but I do not think that this alone will resolve my rubbing problem.
I do have 2 12'' subs in the trunk that add a bit of weight but I am not considering removing them. It is only rubbing in the rear just to clarify.

Is my only option to get a taller spring in the rear? If so what would you suggest?
Also, do they sell a spacer for springs to increase the height slightly.
And if they do, is that even a good idea? don't want to hurt my suspension
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 02:10 AM
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i have same as u but eibachs and its close but only rubs if i hit a big bump
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Render2009
i have same as u but eibachs and its close but only rubs if i hit a big bump
It is so annoying! I cringe every time im on the highway and there is a dip because I'm afraid the tire is going to pop.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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haha i know man when i pay off my car im going to do pedders ss/tc shocks and struts combo back and throw away my sportlines they are junk man the ride is terrible.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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is it the fender or the wheel well?
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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The springs are way too low and too soft, and the wheels are offset more than stock (since the MSR are wider). You're going to rub. There's no easy fix. The cheapest fix is probably to attempt to roll the fenders, and cut away liner areas that rub. If you get the fender rolling wrong, the paint will crack.

On Pedders + stock TC wheels, and 235, I don't rub. Even on track. You can see how far up my tires tuck during cornering. Imagine how far up yours would go.

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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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As long as heat is applied very well with an heat gun you will be fine...
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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is it the fender or the wheel well?
It is the fender, rubber is being taken off the side of the tire and there are black marks on the inside of the fender.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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I know this.... The car was dropped when I had stock ss/sc wheels and they never rubbed because they are narrower. Once the MSRs were put on the rubbing started to occur but I love the wheels and want to keep them around. The only wheels I would consider replacing them with would be black ss/tc wheels but that would be costly.
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The springs are way too low and too soft, and the wheels are offset more than stock (since the MSR are wider). You're going to rub. There's no easy fix. The cheapest fix is probably to attempt to roll the fenders, and cut away liner areas that rub. If you get the fender rolling wrong, the paint will crack.

On Pedders + stock TC wheels, and 235, I don't rub. Even on track. You can see how far up my tires tuck during cornering. Imagine how far up yours would go.

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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Anyone else have an opinion. Does anyone think that I could get away with putting different springs on the back? Want to consider all of my options before doing something drastic you know!
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by troyss
As long as heat is applied very well with an heat gun you will be fine...
To be honest the rubbing has partially rolled the fender for me but the tires still touch the bottom of the fender so rolling is not the solution I am looking for.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Our back fenders are already rolled halfway... Theres about 12 inches left and the part thats still sticking up under the fender is the part your tire is hitting... You think the tire rolled part of your fender From it rubbing but thats how the car comes stock. I have msr045 and thats the part thats rubbing on mine.. Stick your hand under and feel around and you'll see exactly what Im talking about..
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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But thats on mine... If not Id suggest stronger springs I guess
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Our back fenders are already rolled halfway... Theres about 12 inches left and the part thats still sticking up under the fender is the part your tire is hitting... You think the tire rolled part of your fender From it rubbing but thats how the car comes stock. I have msr045 and thats the part thats rubbing on mine.. Stick your hand under and feel around and you'll see exactly what Im talking about..
Your probably right.. might get the fenders fully rolled then, just have to take a good look at it.

I'm going to purchase new tires that are 225/40/18 soon which will give me a little room and maybe a new set of rear springs if needed that give a little more height. If it rubs after that I'll be pissed haha

Any more suggestions and what springs do you think would work well for this? not sure what the drops are on different springs
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I have o45's on sportlines I had 225-45-18's rubbd really bad gott get 40's
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mmcgee123
I have o45's on sportlines I had 225-45-18's rubbd really bad gott get 40's
Yea it does!! but like I said it is so bad now that I just can't see going from a 45 to a 40 solving the problem. Before I get new tires I want to make sure that they will not get ripped up.
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Old Dec 31, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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I have stock ss/tc tires witch I think is a 40 and I rub still... Im going to wait till it's hot out in the summer time to have it fully rolled but I have cheap tenzo springs also...
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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bump any suggestions for rear springs? and would there be any drawbacks of having a stiffer set on the rear?
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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you should be able to do a spring spacer. just a .250 or mabby a bit thicker between the spring and the twist beam or where the spring meets the body itself?
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by majourpain
you should be able to do a spring spacer. just a .250 or mabby a bit thicker between the spring and the twist beam or where the spring meets the body itself?
I Did this with the rubber spacers from autopart store... It worked until I had people in the back seat and it broke it in half... I seen that they had metal spring spacers there so you should try that first
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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just get your rear fenders rolled or pulled. bam, problem gone. im going to be doing this when i get my wheels because mine are +35 offset and i plan to put on 245's.

if only we could run some camber in the rear, that would for sure fix this so easy.
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Old Jan 1, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by troyss
I Did this with the rubber spacers from autopart store... It worked until I had people in the back seat and it broke it in half... I seen that they had metal spring spacers there so you should try that first
So they actually have something like that. Awesome!! Is there any drawbacks of using one of these? Like unwanted stress on the suspension or anything?

I'm going to check this out
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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Honestly there is always a risk of having it shift or get cockeyed i guess. but unless your beating the car up on a rally road i dont see any issues.
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