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Old 02-24-2012, 12:00 AM
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And remember a lot plays with the time. I can log and have a second 60-100 .. spinning tires hahaha
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 383_Stroker View Post
Check out the HPT forums.. there's a several page thread of guys with screenshots of 60-100 times in the sub 5 second range on there
I know, mine does it. I just don't quite believe that he ran a 4.2 60-100 on 93 octane with that little of timing but this is something I would like to be wrong about.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall View Post
Okay, I don't mean to insult you but I'm calling BS without a screen shot of the log. You sure you don't mean 5.2 secs?
Search. I posted a thread several years ago with a screen shot of the 4.6 second 60-100 run. I ran the 4.2 second time about 2 months later when it cooled off 30*. I showed IamBroke (tom) the 4.2 second screen shot I never posted it.

4.6 seconds 60-100 on 93 octane is still as fast or faster than those on E-47. Oh and I did it on 14* of timing not 17 like the 4.2 second run (colder temps allowed for more timing with no knock) No wheel spin just some clutch slipping at first but that made the run slower LOL.

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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...econds-199047/

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That says 99 MPH....
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall View Post
That says 99 MPH....
Yep and there is a reason. The next click of the cursor had the speed at 101 on that pull that was the closest to 100MPH I could get on that log. 99 MPH started a couple tenths before that spot on the chart. If I went from where 99 MPH first hit on the chart it would have been 4.4 seconds 60-99 MPH. Still the fastest I know of on 93 octane either way.
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Old 02-24-2012, 12:37 PM
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Yeah I noticed that on my logs too. So what's the secret? I can't comprehend how you have performance numbers equal or better than E47 cars on 93 with such little timing. Downhill? Factory freak motor? Possible bigger turbo something about this seems off to me. Forgive my ignorance.
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I think some trifecta users might post bad reviews cause only option for them was the tuner pda which I dont think can datalog the cars so end resulting them finding other sorces.

And Vince also has a disclaimer I believe that if anything happens hes.not reliable but he still makes the tunes conservative for your ease. If anyone really wants to push the limits all you need to do is ask.

Trolled hhr forums and many post had good reviews of trifecta.
every tuner is different and accels in a diff way.
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall View Post
Yeah I noticed that on my logs too. So what's the secret? I can't comprehend how you have performance numbers equal or better than E47 cars on 93 with such little timing. Downhill? Factory freak motor? Possible bigger turbo something about this seems off to me. Forgive my ignorance.
Stock turbo no changes there. My car made 342 whp and 372 wrtq before that tune (I ran 4.8 seconds 60-100 with the 342 whp tune) Never dynoed it on that tune unfortunately (dyno time gets expensive). Car made 242 whp 237 wrtq stock so not a freak. No hills in Florida LOL. It is as flat as can be. The secret is just that particular tune in my car. No black magic. Timing is not everything on the LNF especially on pump gas most of the power is in the A/F, airloads, MALT, etc. I spent tons of time testing different cam angles at WOT and never found any improvements in my car over that tune.

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Originally Posted by Terminator2 View Post
Stock turbo no changes there. My car made 342 whp and 372 wrtq before that tune (I ran 4.8 seconds 60-100 with the 342 whp tune) Never dynoed it on that tune unfortunately (dyno time gets expensive). Car made 242 whp 237 wrtq stock so not a freak. No hills in Florida LOL. It is as flat as can be. The secret is just that particular tune in my car. No black magic. Timing is not everything on the LNF especially on pump gas most of the power is in the A/F, airloads, MALT, etc. I spent tons of time testing different cam angles at WOT and never found any improvements in my car over that tune.
Wow. That's great info. Are your other 93 octane guys running similar times?
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I'll have to dig out a log or 3 but iirc I ran a 4.9 on 93, mine never was as fast as Nick's or Terms on 93, crummy gas up here as I always had KR even on 13*. Term is speaking the troof on his tunes.

I played hell to get under 5 sec on 93.

Edit - I found a 59 - 97 mph pull at 37* IAT's, 14* advance in 4.64 sec from Feb '10. That's about my best on 93. Started playing with the E shortly after that.

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Now going off what you told me, how did you obtain the whp with the gas tune without wgdc, and ect. Because if you were unable to have these key features you'd be unable to have more boost, cam tables with newer beta. Which all we had were.the basics. Timing, dals and ect. Not saying it cant be done, but if you were using 22psi and said timing and afr which is .88 lambda Its hard to see said numbers ..



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Recorded 4.6 seconds 60-100 on my car in 95* humid Florida Temps on 93 octane no E-85 near me until now that I do not have my balt unfortunately. Same tune recorded 4.2 seconds 60-100 on a 40* morning. This was at least a year or more before HP Tuners had WG control for the LNF past 22 psi. I was running 22 psi tapering to 20 psi up top. 0.883 PE lambda, 17* of timing, stock cam timing at WOT.



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Stock turbo no changes there. My car made 342 whp and 372 wrtq before that tune (I ran 4.8 seconds 60-100 with the 342 whp tune) Never dynoed it on that tune unfortunately (dyno time gets expensive). Car made 242 whp 237 wrtq stock so not a freak. No hills in Florida LOL. It is as flat as can be. The secret is just that particular tune in my car. No black magic. Timing is not everything on the LNF especially on pump gas most of the power is in the A/F, airloads, MALT, etc. I spent tons of time testing different cam angles at WOT and never found any improvements in my car over that tune.
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BTW not saying it can't be done because I made 353 on ghosts car but that was on new tables and 21* and 28 lbs and tapering down on gasoline. Just not seeing it with old beta lol..
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I know you were addressing Term on this but I did it with the pill mod back then. Look at my BC DC in the screen cap above, only showing ~65% or so.
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That's fine, term said he did this on the old beta with 22lbs and 17* which is fine but its hard to see without atleast a good Tq spike...
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The pill mod would spike 28 psi on my setup. If you look at the pic I posted above, I rolled it in some.
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No problem with my trifecta tune, 317whp @ 349wtq(93 octane) on dynnojet
Dejon Charge/Cold Pipie & SRI, ZZP Catless DP & 23psi trifecta tune- afr @ WOT was 12.8
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Originally Posted by KnightSS/TC View Post
No problem with my trifecta tune, 317whp @ 349wtq(93 octane) on dynnojet
Dejon Charge/Cold Pipie & SRI, ZZP Catless DP & 23psi trifecta tune- afr @ WOT was 12.8
You can't claim things like this when you have another thread talking about a possibly blown cylinder #2.
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You can't claim things like this when you have another thread talking about a possibly blown cylinder #2.
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This is a review thread for my tuner bennyhhr. This guy knows his stuff and is an excellent tuner. I have broke records with his tunes, and have pushed the limits alot harder than 90% of guys on this forum do and have never had one issue. His real name is joe and he is the owner of tuning concepts. Alot of you guys pm me everyday asking about a mods list etc. Until now he didnt want me putting his name out there for a simple fact hes been so busy with other issues. I will put joe up against any tuner locally, or on here and i gaurantee he will not disapoint. Just wanted to give a review on him since i havent yet. very helpfull and knows his stuff. Definately work making a trip or a call to see him. highly recomended thanks joe.

sidenote joe and i will be going for 11's on the blower and stock internals stay tooned
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DAVID( term2) is the ****. He spent 2 hours riding around and making my car just right. Unfortunately, my car didnt like much timing, so i was stuck with 14* of timing, but it holds boost solid!! 25psi up to 5700rpms and then dies off to about 22-23psi till my 6200rpm redline...I have texted him numerous times since my tune, and he is a great guy and an awesome tuner...
I am a speed junkie, so my car still seems slow to me....lol, but it is a very balanced car as i asked for.
I am dynoing soon to let people know my power, but you can see the mods in my signiture, it aint much for mods...lol
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im still around kids. my family take precedence over spending time on forums. i don't travel to do tunes.
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im still around kids. my family take precedence over spending time on forums. i don't travel to do tunes.
Bry maybe someday sometime someone will understand that those of us with families have other priorites!

And bitch you better be around in May when I come back.
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3 View Post
Now going off what you told me, how did you obtain the whp with the gas tune without wgdc, and ect. Because if you were unable to have these key features you'd be unable to have more boost, cam tables with newer beta. Which all we had were.the basics. Timing, dals and ect. Not saying it cant be done, but if you were using 22psi and said timing and afr which is .88 lambda Its hard to see said numbers
When he did mine back in the day, I used a trifecta tunable base file and I put down like 340lbs/trq on a mustang dyno and 91 octane. My clutch slipped until the tires lost traction and spun on the dyno. On that tune I was door to door with a Roush Stage 3 mustang form 40-120ish mph. And I do battle with his Ethanol tuning on tracks. I was at AAA speedway in Fontana murdering everything but a GT-R, a Lancer with a motor worth more than my balt, and some rocketship of a beastly R32. The ethanol mix tune I had took down a C63 amg, a few M3s (including teh new V8), a mustang with a Novi1000 and race gas, and a Porsche that tried to run me off the track.

Term is a beast. I would not get tuned by anyone else. /Thread
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by M-Dub View Post
Bry maybe someday sometime someone will understand that those of us with families have other priorites!

And bitch you better be around in May when I come back.
That does not excuse you from loading 30 psi LNF tunes and not even data logging the car. You know better than that.
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What about CCSS3 ? Id like to see CC and Term have a tune/ dyne day to see who has the better tunes. no horse **** just plain old good fun lol.
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