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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Wtf? No i didn't. I said you're car isn't crotch rocket fast. That one is. Wow you're pretty defensive on this. Like i said lets see a vid
it won't matter on the video, because people will just say the bike isn't running hard, or he didn't know how to shift, or the humidity was too high, or the earth's axis was 0.00017% off due to the slight gravitational pull because of the moon's cycle this month and that is why i won
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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In all of those videos i didnt see one busa or zx14. Those two bikes are much much better competition for cars over 800 whp. Pretty awesome video's none-the-less. It is hard to find a rider who can pull the full potential out of a bike and hit the right shift points. I think people get nervous when they race and forget wtf to do. And in all of those videos i saw a lot of skin so im thinking they may not be the brightest people lol
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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some turbo bike and a supra. its iffy who wins. both are sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B80ORYN_8I
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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some idiot was out wearing the normal squid protective gear ie: no helmet, tennis shoes, shorts, cut off t-shirt, and he was trying to get some old junky pickup so i figured i would try him out. to get him to bite i did a little ricer fly by, then we slowed back down to around 50mph or so, took off and he almost hung right with me until about 100, then i started pulling pretty hard and by the time i hit 155 or so, he was a good 100 feet behind and losing momentum quickly.

i've got the boost turned down to 18, so i was expecting a loss there... was a fun surprise to start the day off with
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oh 'ye of little faith, this type of stuff is what happens when you actually have torque. the problem with 99% of your blower cars is that you have laughably low amounts.

it'll take me a bit to find someone with another 600, me and all of my friends i ride with ride liter bikes. i'll get one though, but if i get a 600 only, i don't want anyone in here bitchin cause some 600's are faster than 636's... also have to figure out how to set up a camera cause i'm not adding another 200 pounds of dead weight in the car
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you know how you get a 600 cc bike into the 10's? with a massively experienced rider and slipping the clutch at WOT off the line. otherwise, it's not happening. but anyways, what would i know about bikes, it's not like i own a couple or race them all the time or anything

600's lack the torque to push them through very hard once you get past the 1/8. my rc51 on the other hand would still be on the back wheel as it went past the line



yeah, my limiter is set to 180 or something. i've had it pegged at 160 a few times since the conversion
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...yawn...

here's what my car does at 17 psi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw1xFFLQQIQ

just at that little bit of boost, it accelerates harder than i'd say 90% of the cars here if not more. boost is usually on 22psi and i've had it up to 24 a time or two
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and that's not even at full boost man

you know what the funny thing is... i'm using a canned tune on my car at that. the a/f looked good on the dyno, timing is basically stock and it goes vrooom, so we never messed with it. once the new intake and turbo elbow situation is sorted, i'm gonna get byt or area to do some tweaks
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320whp/330wtq on a mustang dyno, that was on the stock clutch and it was slipping. as for traps i have no idea, it hasn't been to the track since the turbo kit was installed. now that i have a g85 trans and act clutch kit in it, i'm not worried about getting into hard because now it just spins and goes straight, before it would spin and have bad torque steer up to 65-75 mph and i didn't wanna smack the wall or something
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i didn't run those times with it, another member had this kit on here and i bought it off of him cause he was trading the car in. jannetty racing modified a 2.2 garrett kit with a gt3071r turbo and made it fit the lsj and tuned it. i'm using 100% of what he had down to the air filter, except he had a custom 3" exhaust and I have a hahn.

i'm sorry that my car accelerates faster than you think it should. my apologies
Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but I personally know the member you bought your kit off of. My brother just called him two seconds ago to get all of this info from him because we were reading this ******* post. At 19psi he put down 33X whp and 34X wtq with that kit tuned from Jannetty. His BEST trap speed was a 112.X.

The guy on the bike you raced was most likely in the wrong gear and didn't know how to ride. Any sort of decent rider would have smoked you so bad from 50mph that people watching wouldn't have known you were racing.
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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but I personally know the member you bought your kit off of. My brother just called him two seconds ago to get all of this info from him because we were reading this ******* post. At 19psi he put down 33X whp and 34X wtq with that kit tuned from Jannetty. His BEST trap speed was a 112.X.

The guy on the bike you raced was most likely in the wrong gear and didn't know how to ride. Any sort of decent rider would have smoked you so bad from 50mph that people watching wouldn't have known you were racing.
if 19 psi on that turbo put out only 330 whp and trapped as fast as a stock turbo ss/tc, somethings wrong. im not saying your wrong, but that info is BS. 112 trap is slow as hell for that set up. and 330whp is low as hell for that set up, especially on 19 psi.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but I personally know the member you bought your kit off of. My brother just called him two seconds ago to get all of this info from him because we were reading this ******* post. At 19psi he put down 33X whp and 34X wtq with that kit tuned from Jannetty. His BEST trap speed was a 112.X.

The guy on the bike you raced was most likely in the wrong gear and didn't know how to ride. Any sort of decent rider would have smoked you so bad from 50mph that people watching wouldn't have known you were racing.
don't make assumptions leroy jenkins, who said anything about 19 psi? i've had this ******* thing past 28 psi once already... just that the sensors only went to 28 so no idea what it actually was on as i was doing a burnout at 70mph+

the ONLY reason i had my boost turned down previously was because i had hose clamps instead of t-bolts and without the g85 in, it was dangerous when it started to spin. it sits on 24 psi, but i have turned it up a bit more on occasion

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if 19 psi on that turbo put out only 330 whp and trapped as fast as a stock turbo ss/tc, somethings wrong. im not saying your wrong, but that info is BS. 112 trap is slow as hell for that set up. and 330whp is low as hell for that set up, especially on 19 psi.
the reason for the higher boost levels is because the system is choked down.. it has an fmic + the oem intake manifold, then the turbo elbow chokes down to a point of about 1-1.5" and that includes the wastegate expulsion.

every setup is different, that's why i don't pay any attention to people when they say they make xxx whp on xxx psi

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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
don't make assumptions leroy jenkins, who said anything about 19 psi? i've had this ******* thing past 28 psi once already... just that the sensors only went to 28 so no idea what it actually was on as i was doing a burnout at 70mph+

the ONLY reason i had my boost turned down previously was because i had hose clamps instead of t-bolts and without the g85 in, it was dangerous when it started to spin. it sits on 24 psi, but i have turned it up a bit more on occasion



the reason for the higher boost levels is because the system is choked down.. it has an fmic + the oem intake manifold, then the turbo elbow chokes down to a point of about 1-1.5" and that includes the wastegate expulsion.

every setup is different, that's why i don't pay any attention to people when they say they make xxx whp on xxx psi
Assumptions? You specifically said in your FIRST POST that you were running at 18psi for this race with the bike. I don't care what you've had it up to previously, the only thing that matters for this race is what you had it at FOR THE RACE, which again, you specifically stated was 18psi. Here's the quote straight from your post:

Originally Posted by selfinfliction
i've got the boost turned down to 18, so i was expecting a loss there... was a fun surprise to start the day off with
If the guy had any clue how to ride that bike, you should have lost and lost hard. I'm not saying you didn't beat the rider, but I AM saying that with even a decent rider, you wouldn't have beaten that bike. That's a fact and if you believe anything else, you're a *******.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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fly-by by a bike huh??? you know you would be in jail for vehicular manslaughter had he looked in his mirror saw a car further back(not knowing you were going quite fast gaining on him) and changed lanes.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
fly-by by a bike huh??? you know you would be in jail for vehicular manslaughter had he looked in his mirror saw a car further back(not knowing you were going quite fast gaining on him) and changed lanes.
He shoulda looked twice. According to the bumper stickers we (car drivers) are supposed to...
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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really? so a motorcyclist is killed because he changed lanes as someone was trying to do a fly-by at, idk what he did by him, 70mph. and you're going to say he should have looked twice???
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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Just me being an ass. But if we have to look twice, they should too. A very good buddy of mine died in a motorcycle accident.

Doesn't justify the car driver attempting a fly by.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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the point i'm getting at is that when someone looks in their mirror or over their shoulder and see a car a good 6-7lengths back. they aren't going to expect that car to be flying up on them
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
the point i'm getting at is that when someone looks in their mirror or over their shoulder and see a car a good 6-7lengths back. they aren't going to expect that car to be flying up on them
I get what you're saying. And I know it's happened to us on both ends before...we've been the passing car as well as the car being passed.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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you may have been the passing car...
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
fly-by by a bike huh??? you know you would be in jail for vehicular manslaughter had he looked in his mirror saw a car further back(not knowing you were going quite fast gaining on him) and changed lanes.
random useless thoughts, authored by random useless people on the internet

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Assumptions? You specifically said in your FIRST POST that you were running at 18psi for this race with the bike. I don't care what you've had it up to previously, the only thing that matters for this race is what you had it at FOR THE RACE, which again, you specifically stated was 18psi. Here's the quote straight from your post:



If the guy had any clue how to ride that bike, you should have lost and lost hard. I'm not saying you didn't beat the rider, but I AM saying that with even a decent rider, you wouldn't have beaten that bike. That's a fact and if you believe anything else, you're a *******.
first let me say that i crap more riding experience in the toilet every morning than you possess on your squidster600, and it doesn't take an experienced rider to crack the throttle open in a straight line. every time someone says that it shows their limited knowledge about bikes. you know why so many idiots get killed on motorcycles? cause any retard can get on a bike and twist the throttle.

the fact that you are arguing he needs to be experienced to do that, displays the fact that you are one of the dangerous ones that *thinks* they know how to ride and commonly confuse skill with confidence.

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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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haha agreed ^^^ and to the Op good kill regardless of how or why it happened... i wish people could just read a story of a racing win and accept it instead of trying to disprove it. People beat what is suposed to be a faster vehicle all the time. so why do people get butthurt when the faster vehicle loses? who cares lol a win is a win. if the driver underestimates your car and uses the wrong gear or doesn't go all out and loses it's that much better... not only are they taught a valuable lesson about underestimating a vehicle and that they can lose to a potentially slower vehicle... they lose the race as well if they did give it 100% and ya win ... even better!!!
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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first let me say that i crap more riding experience in the toilet every morning than you possess on your squidster600, and it doesn't take an experienced rider to crack the throttle open in a straight line. every time someone says that it shows their limited knowledge about bikes. you know why so many idiots get killed on motorcycles? cause any retard can get on a bike and twist the throttle.

the fact that you are arguing he needs to be experienced to do that, displays the fact that you are one of the dangerous ones that *thinks* they know how to ride and commonly confuse skill with confidence.
First point: you know absolutely nothing about my riding experience whatsoever and then start making assumptions about your skill level on a bike versus mine, RIGHT after accusing me of making assumptions in your previous post. Awesome...

Second point: if you actually believe the majority of the riders out there can race a supersport bike in a straight line to anywhere near its potential from a dig OR a roll, it just tells me that you either have no experience on bikes or you are one of the riders that has one and THINKS he knows what he's doing but would get smoked by a good rider on a lesser bike. So which one are you? I'm going with you never having owned a bike in your life and you've probably just taken friends' bikes around the block a few times, but it's possible you're just a ******* squid that thinks he knows what he's doing.

Third point: according to you, a more skilled rider doesn't really make much of a difference on a bike in a straight line because anyone can "crack the throttle", and clearly that's all it takes to race a bike in a straight line... Therefore, you believe that the outcome of your race with the 636 is a fairly accurate representation of what would happen in that same race with a skilled rider on the bike. Deduction: the fact that you think your car on 18psi would even remotely hang with a 636 from a 50 roll makes it pretty clear to everyone here that you have no clue what you're talking about. But keep thinking you have a clue. It provides quite a bit of entertainment to us that know what the hell's actually going on in the real world.

Oh and PS, if you actually think I can't ride and rider skill level doesn't make a HUGE difference on bikes, including the lowly 600, ask pookie025 about my riding ability and his experience with 600's at different rider skill levels.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
don't make assumptions leroy jenkins, who said anything about 19 psi? i've had this ******* thing past 28 psi once already... just that the sensors only went to 28 so no idea what it actually was on as i was doing a burnout at 70mph+
Why do you keep mentioning that you sometimes run more boost when you weren't in this race? That would be like me racing on motor and then throwing around my nitrous numbers as my argument for why I won.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Any Cobalt beating a bike? Sorry. Unless it's a 250, false.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Also, I can say that my Z28 makes 520 rwhp and 590 rwtq on a 100 shot and I've raced my buddy's 2003 600 many times. He's 220lbs which isn't helping him at all and I'm not as far ahead by 150 as you claim to have been against the faster 636.

Rider error is what lost this race for him. I don't even have a bike, but I've been around them enough to see that starting in the wrong gear will lose you a race that should be a win.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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I'd say that most of you modified s/c guys and most of you stock t/c guys can likely beat my Harley. But a street bike? No way. My friends R6 is nasty quick compared to my Sportster..
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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BTW, good kill, a win is a win.
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