hp isn't everything.

 

[QUOTE=Chase0224;5752289]mine is in that power range. i just dont do track...

 

[QUOTE=jonathan923;5753053]Well if you ever do go to the track dont be ashamed if you run a high 13 sec pass. You might make decent power but like shibito said hp isint everything what are you going to do when you spin the first 1/8 mile, I know you said you plan on doing some mods to get your car to hook I would suggest a full slick or a RWD conversion lol. On a more serious note does any one know if they have RWD conversion kits for cobalts?? If not im going to make one and corner the market lol.

 

yea thats why i gotta stick to 40 and 60 rolls lol. 40 rolls are fun its just too much spinning. and traction mods will come but then lsj axels arent too good. ive seen people and locals snap ottp staged axels. i will have to swap to lnf axels but to do so its quite a pain in the ass and $$

there is one i think its called victoryred cobalt thats the only rwd balt i know of...

 

I'm still not getting the logic here either. LS1 with 350hp running high twelves equal slow, but LS3 Camaro with 426hp running high twelves is fast? So because it's old it is now slow?

 

thats what happens when people talk out their ass.

 

go do ur self a favor and find some research before u talt more bs...

stock:
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS SLP 1/4 mile trap speeds 0-60 - DragTimes.com

modded its obiously diff and that goes for any car...

 

Ease on up one state to Mississippi and I will show you some ls1 cars that will absolutely destroy your 113 trap car. No offense but unless you live in a barren part of Miami you gotta be trollin because we have done some runs down there and there are hella fast ls1 cars down there.

My buddy had a bolt on cammed ls1 not even head work it had the pos stock heads on it that went 10's. Of course it was gutted but still was a cammed / bolted ls1 maro.

There are T/A's up here that spend less that 1 grand and have their cars in the low 11's and 10's at over 120+. How much you got in your balt to be trapping 113?

Saying a ls1 stock motor isn't fast is ******* stupid. As of right now it is still one of the FASTEST stock motors in the world you can get for the price range the cars cost. Stock all motor ls1 cars have gone 12's. A LS3 camaro doesn't even beat the fastest stock ls1 time by more than 3/10 of a second in actuallity go look it up.

Just ease on over to TorqueAddicts.net - Powered by vBulletin which is a local southern forum and get on there and just look at what those ls1 cars run. Hell there are ls1 trucks on there that would destroy your car even lol.

Ok anyway back to work.

 

maybe you should go do some research.... Its well known that a good driver can take an LS1 4th gen to 12 second 1/4 miles, just as can be said for LS3 5th gens... They are pretty close in their abilities... To say one of them is fast and the other is not (especially calling it slow) is retarded...

 

I love morons who pull the old "do your research" bullshit and then post one single link to one specific example of what they mean. Spend a little time on LS1tech with the big boys and you'll find plenty of stock examples of 12-sec LS1 cars.

 

hey look its an LS1 with a cam, ported TB, and headers running 11.48 @119. that would murder you and it has stock heads

2002 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1/4 mile trap speeds 0-60 - DragTimes.com

 

i dont know when did i started comparing my car to every single ls1 out there. just because i say i have 350whp+ does not mean i can beat all of them but i can beat a stock or lightly modded one for sure.

all these morons take this **** so seriously i just laugh everytime people just keep posting up **** like they think i feel bad or something lmao.

its all on the money and if u want a fast car then put money on it. unless u have enough money to buy $80k cars that are already insane fast then u care even less of what other idiots have to say...

so just keep cummin with all the bs this **** is intertaining my day at work

 

cool story bro

 

i think its a very cool story, bro

 

And it doesn't run. Doubt it was ever finished, plus it had an LS motor in it

 

LS1s running stock 12s were rare... LS1s running 13.2-13.3s stock was COMMON PLACE

I would bet MOST of this board with tuned LNFs couldn't beat a well driven stock LS1 from a dig

and this is coming from a guy with a tuned LNF who has turned a 2.0 60'

I will say 100% of this board won't beat a well driven full bolt-on/tuned LS1 from a dig with a bolt-on/tune LNF

and a well driven cammed car with bolt-ons and a tune, i'm going to say 100% of us wouldn't beat it from a roll with a bolt-on/tuned LNF

stock Ls1:

$350 cam
$450 headers
$100 lid
$750 nitrous setup
tune: $350

$2000 for a reliable 520+whp? now yeah if I was running it, it'd have a Ls6 intake($300?), etc... but its not needed

its a losing battle for us... and I know guys with a nitrous setup and headers putting down close to 500whp


people think its impressive the new 5.0 went in the 11s with bolt-ons, a Camaro did that... the year was 1999, congrats Ford it only took you 10 years to get on its level, sadly though, the T-56 is good for 700whp... the transmission in the Coyote, its not good for stock power, lol

 

Sorry but I'm gonna be a smartass. There are 2 stock turbo LNF's that would've outrun a large number of well driven bolt-on tune LS1's. Those being ZZP and Cmiller of course.

And are you saying that Camaro SS's are on the same level as the GT, because LS1 owners tend to see differently.

LS1 Camaro's are really on level with the Cobra's of their time. The new LS3 Camaro is on level with the current Mustang GT.

 

Cmiller was on drag slicks and ZZP has a chopped up shop car, lol

you give me a full-bolt on LS1 M6 on some full blown slicks, and i'd gladly run ZZPs car back when it WAS stock turbo from a dig and that is with their chopped up ****, because I assure you, a full bolt-on LS1 on slicks will run better than 11.9s

http://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racin...1-77-bump.html

any more questions?

and that is the stock cam/heads, no nitrous


I don't even think I need to post the "Cam Only" list, lol


i'd also take a full bolt-on A4 on slicks with a stall and gears, lol

 

I was assuming your full bolt-on LS1 included slicks. And surprisingly enough, ZZP's car isn't as chopped up as you may think.

 

ZZP ran their 11s on slicks, so did Cmiller, we're talking LSJ brake conversion w/ real slicks

and that LS1 actually has a prayer of hooking with a radial..............

you think that Matt or Cmiller would beat a strong running full bolt-on LS1 on a radial? lol... they'd be lucky to run mid-12s, in fact your basic mildly tuned LNF with bolt-ons probably wouldn't be much slower in the fact all the extra power they were making just means more smoke off the line, lol

 

I think you kind of committed yourself to this arguement by throwing out ignorant opinions and the few "facts" you have given arent even correct.

Also, lets get it straight that we dont care about your feelings one way or another. What everyone cares about is the misinformation you are spewing.

You still havent been able to refute that the cars you consider fast and LS1 are pretty much identical in times/speed. Also, you dog the LS1 but even with your list of mods you can barely out trap a stock LS1.

You just keep talking out of your ass, assuming you are right and all 45 other people are wrong.

 

in no way am I putting down the LNF... you can throw $500 worth of bolt-ons at one, put a $300 tune on it and have a 300+ whp car that is going to hurt the feelings of A LOT of performance car on the road, while still getting over 30mpg...

but in a mod war, well, I wouldn't advise waging war with a LS1, they are STILL the kings of the street for a reason...

 

Gonna have to agree there. I am kinda at the end of the road for my balt, she is staying where she is at mods wise. LS motors are beasts, they will be like the SBC before them... 50 years before a new better design comes out (well maybe not since of the new C7 is supposed to have that DI 5.3 V-8). You can't really beat a 4 bolt main bearing assembly with a forged lower end to start off with in a V-8... that is a mod ready motor, love the LS motors. I can keep up with quite a few but not ones that have gone into the heads or any part of the motor for horsepower... they just put out too much power for my car to overcome. And I am not running a tune only balt either... I have intake, upper and lower charge pipes, TR8 intercooler, 3 inch downpipe, 24psi tune, E85/91 mix and some good tires and I would be hard pressed to keep up with a LS that the OP was talking about... There is a reason why the camaro was almost twice what a mustang was for insurance in the 2000+ model years. Thats why I don't drive one, couldn't afford it back then.

 

this post right here says it all... Youd have to spend almost 3 times as much to touch those power levels with a cobalt, and then you wouldnt hook for **** even on a roll.

 

Not knocking the LS1, but I wouldn't call it the king of the streets. I wouldn't call any motor the king of the streets. The LS1 is an awesome motor though.