I would ask how old you are but by your response I can already guess...

and if you own an STI (that either your parents bought for you or are at least paying the insurance on), then you should try racing someone who can drive...perhaps you would like to meet up half way somewhere and race? My SS against your STI...I will race your from a roll, from 10, 20, 30, 70, 100...you name it. My best time is a 12.38 with 3:42's and full bolt on's..this is running street tires.

Yeah well, sometimes the guys that are running those cars are the same age as yourself and don't know how to drive a RWD car...which is why they buy a AWD car.

News flash...you didn't build your car...subaru did...and as far as not hooking...have you ever seen a RWD car actually set up for the strip...probably not.
Leave it to someone in an AWD car to say racing from a roll is rice...well I own a chevy which is much more american than your subaru...and racing from a roll is just as informative about your cars capabilities as a "launch". So to better your statement...if you can't build a car that is all around fast and not just for the first 60'...you should get a new hobby. AND if you still want to brag about your subaru...drive it up..I will let you race the 96 Z28 that waxed your fellow subaru in the video...then I can post video of you getting your ass handed to you to.


I suppose it would be to you..you own a subaru. Any video that shows the car you drive getting its ass handed to it by a car that is 10 years older...must certainly be lame...right?

Pick a spot between us to meet up...until then...quit your "lame" unbacked ramblings would you?

 

i smell a new video

 

You smell correct "ninja san".

I will race a stock STI all day long in an LS1.

He calls the video lame...but when you put an STI in front of you, where he can take off uninhibited...and you have to WAIT in order to get past the guy next to you before you can hammer down...and you still pass the AWD STI within..what 2 blocks tops and your in a car that is not nearly as fast as the car the supposedly STI's walk from quartermile...I smell something too. (and yes I have raced STI's at the track and street in my LS1, not just the LT1), hell like I said I have about three friends that have them and they are scared as hell of my car except for the first ten feet.

I ran a 13.1 in my SS completely stock on streettires (two days after I bought it non the less)...not sure what he is slapping down with the ol' stock AWD "LS1 beater"...but I bet you it is more along the 13.5 or 13.6 area if he is a good driver.

I'm not trying to be a dick to the guy...but seriously...how much denial can one be in?

 

OK guys I own a cobalt and a 1999 camaro.
Just think of this take a stock camaro and a stock sti and dump $10,000 into both the camaro is going to dominate do the same with a cobalt and camaro the camaro is going domnate I dont know when every thing changed that a four banger is faster than a v8. What ever you can do to a 4 cyclender you an do to a v8 and thats that, just try to prove me wrong because theres no replacement for displacement peroid.

 

yea that is totally true, when modified to a certain level displacement rules all, but not stock necessarily. Some cars don't need that big of displacement to put down MAJOR power. just look at 2jz's and rb26dett's. those motors can make well over 600 horses on the stock block easy. it's not ALL about displacement, but yes it is very important.

 

Yes thats true all motors are diffrent here an exception to the rule take a supera and a mustang (dont care what year pick one) and dump $5,000 into both the supera will kill the stang.

heres some thing else about all weel drive more rotational mass, that means your loseing alot more hp through your drive trane.

 

Wow what a joke... I call bullshit on everything.

But I tell you what, we can meet halfway. We can race on the street from a dig and then go race around ANY road course or autocross course you want, same offer to the LT1. And then when I finish my drag car (not the STOCK STi) we can meet up again and go from a dig.

PS if your MODDED RWD car can't pull a better 60' than my stock STi, then you are definently in the wrong hobby.

Also assume all you want about my age, but I (not my parents) still own 3 cars and am buying a 300k house.

 

Why did I expect nothing less?...just like me posting the video was BS too right?

haha...now its road racing too, let me guess you want to put dirt on the track and take some jumps too? Next your gonna wanna foot race and if you lose at that it will be who can drink a soda first...

See below for hobbies and then you can tell me who's in the wrong one

Why not your STI if that is the godly best thing on earth for dragging?

and if you want to race a built drag car Junior...let me know when you have yours.

Perhaps I can send you a picture of my 6 sec tube chasis 69 with a 3200 hp donavan block in it...I will let you race that when you build you car, how's that sound (if I am still young enough to race). PS (you won't like it...it's RWD)

You didn't think my "FNFAST" sign on signified my 12 second SS did you?

300k house... Can you take a picture of anything you lie about for us?

Your STI, your house? this supposed imaginary drag car? All I hear about is what you have...but unlike myself you haven't back a word you said except with your mouth.




HEY GUYS I AM BUYING A 600K DOLLAR HOME...DATING TYRA BANKS....and I HAVE 3!!! COUNT THEM THREE PORSCHES!!! AND AND AND!!!!

Keep digging yourself a deeper hole.

 

burn

p.s. this convo reminds me of a bad PINKS episode

 

Guy is like a mastercard commercial:

buying an imaginery 300k dollar house = $6.00 worth of drugs

owing 3 cars = wealthy parents

Saying an STI faster than a Camaro SS = another $10.00 worth of drugs

Being a total ******* who runs his mouth = *Priceless*

 

First off a few members on this site know me personally including three mods, so I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else.

I own MY cars, I will own MY house.

But while we are on the topic, what exactly have you proven???? Don't tell me that video proved anything, the STI didn't even look like it was trying.

I really like how you put words in my mouth. When did I say I dislike RWD??? Or when did I say the STI is the greatest drag car ever???

Also my car will not be a purpose built drag car, it will run 10s get 20+mpg and probably be daily driven.

Me thinks you need to stop ASSuming things. And unless you can PROVE otherwise an STi will run better times at any track than any stock LS1 f-body on average.

 

me thinks? I will give you some me thinks kido...

Me thinks the video I posted proves how fast an STI is "on average". Me also remembers stopping to talk to the guy. Me thinks I can even provide you with his phone number so you can call him yourself and ask if he was trying?

Me also thinks this summer when I go to the track I am going to flood your "private message" with videos of me cleaning up STI's at the track.

Bottom line: Me thinks your funny.


(PS: Me thinks you should post a video of you beating an LS1 at the track...cause to be honest...me thinks your F.O.S.)


ME

 

This is for the most part true. I have seen stock Camaros run 13.1 and on the next run do a 14.0. All you have to do to an STI is drop the clutch between 4000-5000 rpm and you should get consistent times between 13.2-13.6.

 

I Agree with you. But, if you read the discussion...it is not about which one is easier for some one to hop in and cut consistent times...it is which one is faster.


Look super...what is your fastest time in your stock STI? I already told you I cut a 13.1 in my camaro...if you say you cut a 12.8...I will believe you and apologize...Like I said... I am not trying to be an *******...but you are making claims here without ANYTHING?? Not even so much as throwing a number out there on what you have ran when you killed these LS1's...NOTHING???

But yet you are saying you will mop my ass? Thats what you don't get...I have posted video..numbers...and yet all you post is how you would win and "I don't have to prove anything". Your right...you don't have to prove anything...but then you shouldnt run around talking about things and making threats over something you are not at least willing to back up...more or less PROVE?

 

I understand this. Only pointing out he was correct in that statement. As far as one being faster then another, I think it's a drivers race. Not many can take full advantage of the Camaro's power. Now if you are comparing built drag cars, the Camaro owns.

 

Comparing your stock times to my stock times doesn't matter. I ran in 90* weather. But for arguments sake, my best run stock was 13.60 at 98.74 with a 1.78 60', that was out of 3 different track showings about 11 passes. The best time out of 3 stock LS2 GTOs was 13.7 @ 102-3, an LS1 f-bod with slp intake and cat back was stuck at 13.8 @ 103(I will pull the slip that I raced him with), 3 mach 1s best of 13.9, and then about 3 or 4 stock ls1s that I think barely broke 13s. Now I also belong to a local board and I have seen some members on different occasions run 13.1-2s in their WS6s and Z28s bone stock, but in the same weather my buddy in his stock 04 STi ran 13.1.

Now for the record, if I didn't hate how you sit in the f-bodies I would probably own one right now instead of the STi and if I didn't already own a 2 seater, then I would have bought a vette(c5 zo6 maybe). I like the ls1s and have a lot of respect for what they are capable of and they were powerhouses when they were out. But to completely discount STIs and EVOs and what they can do is rediculous. I completely agree with SS4ME that LS1s f-bodies and STIs/EVOs are a driver's race, but if you look at facts the advantage goes to the EVOs/STIs. Once modding starts most definently the advantage goes to the LS1.

I also don't think I would mop your ass, stock and especially not modded. But on the street, stock to stock I am confident you would have a hard time catching me.

On your stock 13.1 pass what did you trap?

 

im just letting everyone know that the ls was crafted by god himself so your sti equals poop. stock ls1's trap 102 easy any year 01 and 02 all bets are off i have seen 12's stock.

 

I must say, these guys driving the LS2 GTO's an LS1 F-bodies running high 13'a must not know how to drive their cars. The LS2 GTO is putting out 400hp and should be hitting the quarter in the low 13's.. The 04 GTO with 50 less HP are pushing mid to high 13's bone stock. You also can't complain about the temperature outside being the problem with low times, he's in Wisconsin which means he is at higher elevations with thinner air. Your vehicle is going to run quite a bit different at higher elevations.

 

Ok smart guy... my DA was about 1800' when I ran. What elevation and temp was he at???

If you don't know how DA works, please refrain from talking. Also if you think every LS2 and LS1 will run 13s at every track, please again refrain from talking.

 

whoopy!! You should also refrain from talking.

 

Ya, we're at a whopping 650 ft. above sea level. I think I'm going to get altitude sickness.

 

Ok my bad about ya'll only being 650ft above sea level.

As far as me refraining from talking because I believe every LS1 and LS2 will run 13's, not gonna happen. Unless the track is 1/8th mile, 1,000ft, the car is F-ed up, it's ungodly hot, or they just don't know how to drive, those cars will run 13's all day long. You sir, should do some research instead of basing what you claim to see from one or two incapable drivers at the track.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/

Do some research, youngin.

 

agreed^ **** some stock lt1's crack high 13's stock.

 

Honestly super for it being 90 degrees out a 13.6 is pretty damn good. I bet you could crack a lot better than that in Wisconsin. The only thing that makes me think a little leary about how much better you would run in WI is your trap...although not bad it is tad low for mid 13 run, but it makes since..the STI is a launcher.... 1.7 is a pretty damn good 60' for a stock car

I would have to dig up my slip but I think I trapped 103 or 106...I am not sure which one but I know it was one or the other. You would def get me the first 60...I think I got a 1.89 60 foot which is good...but almost 2 tenths in the first 60' is a good difference. The LS1's don't really go crazy until 3rd gear...then they just throw you back and you swear the gear won't end

Anyways...I apologize. I wasn't trying to be a dick to you. Thank you for posting your times...definetly helps me understand why you would think what you did...mid 13's in 90 degree weather...thats pretty darn good.

1 gm...DA is density altitude...it affects your car depending on how it's tuned...if you car is running lean...a low DA will actually hurt your quartermile...not help it...if you are running rich a low DA is better than a higher DA. It depends alot on how your car is set up. Although most cars that are forced induction are set up rich from the factory...I don't know enough about the A/F ratio on a STI to state whether or not a low DA would help or hurt them. But, super know an STI better than us I am sure since he owns one...so I am guessing they run a little on the lean side super? But the hot weather will affect a forced induction car alot more than DA and since he was running in 90 degree weather...thats huge. Especially since the NA cars should have been doing better at 1800 DA. Granted they probably werent the best drivers...but I guess those guys shouldnt be smack talking until the learn to drive.

13.6 in 90 degree weather super...not bad.

 

Holy smokes! 1.04 60'

The only reason my 60' was so bad I think was because it was colder than my ass outside.
The track was horrid for traction...but the cold air also help me get moving once I was going to so I guess its a horse a piece.

My best ever in my SS was a 1.6 but it wasnt my 13.1 run??? Go figure. I thought I nailed that launch too...way to crush my dreams "guy"