+1^^

 

Seriously, dude... YOU are the one who is a pathetic ricer... pretending that Mustangs are much faster than they really are and talking about how without torque you can't get off the line hard. Domestic rice at it's finest.

Stock 99-04 GT's CANNOT run mid-low 13's. The fastest stock 99-04 GT ever was when Evan Smith drove a Bullitt to 13.5. He also drove a regular GT to 13.7. Someone may be able to beat his times by a few thousanths, but those are virtually perfect runs.

Also, you don't need TQ to get off the line hard, you need HORSEPOWER and TRACTION. Horsepower comes from EITHER torque or rpms, and traction is obvious. The reason the SS/SC can't get off the line is not TQ or even HP, it's traction.

If you don't understand, let me know, and I'll hook you up with an explanation of Horsepower, Tq, and RPM.

Until then, YOU don't know what you're talking about, and stock 99-04 GT's do NOT run mid-low 13's.

 

No, you really do need torque to get off the line hard. Thats a proven fact, as horsepower is nothing but a calculated number, but Im sure you already knew that. Torque gets you off the line, horsepower carries you across the finish. Quick example: high hp/low tq turbo hondas that dont spool till after 60 ft. They dont get off the line hard but pull hard after half track. Everything else you say I agree with, and I find it funny that one Mustang guy is proving a much more retarded and less educated Mustang owner wrong on a Cobalt board

 

Thats true but that example sucks because its putting the turbo factor into it, which could be because the engine doesn't make its power untill the turbo spools which may be 1/2 way down the track... A better example is the M5 vs the Z06.

 

Pre-2005 Mustang GT isn't low 13 second car no matter how much some of the GT owners want to believe.

 

Yeah I know its not the best, but its still a lack of low end torque coming into play getting the car off the line hard A torqueless wonder is a torqueless wonder. Hmm that kinda means a 4.6 SOHC GT is a Honda Civic!!

 

It was a joke. I don't drive a Cobalt.

 

Well, my point is that if you have the horsepower like that turbo car would, all you need to do is rev until you are in power and launch from there. Because power is just a calculation of torque and rpm, if you have enough of one, you can make up for a lack of the other. In the case of a car like the S2k, they can get off the line hard.... as long as they rev it up to 6k or something. Power is power whether it is a result of TQ or RPM. Sure, it may take an S2k 4-thousand more RPM to make the same HP number as a GT, but if they are making the same hp at the launch and they have equal traction, then they are going to get off the line just as hard. Problem is, most people don't understand that concept.

Hope that made sense

 

Hmm.. you guys keep contradicting yourself. I guess you need to go back to your high school math class tomorrow and ask your teachers to explain all the calculations between hp/tq/rpm's.. btw, Chevy Cobalts are for ******* faggsss.. No torque, low hp, needing-to-have-boost pos's..

If you think a SOHC GT is equal to a honda off the line, you are sadly mistaken. I don't see any Evo's launching off the line like a 438 in a GT.. hmm, WONDER WHY.. maybe a little thing called torque

Try to get some 1.40 60's outta your street tires.. haha.. WONT HAPPEN.. And like I said b4, i will pay any of you to bring your crappy ass cobalt ss/sc down to arkansas during a track night so i can wipe my ass on your hood after i rape you for a full 1000ftk

And as for that video, go check out stangnet.com in the 4.6 talk and you'll see a couple threads about stock gt's running 13's.. even a nearly stock '95 cobra running a 12.9 in the QUARTER MILE.. assbags..

Bring it.. i'll have fun letting you see tri-bar taillights the whole time.. mustang bitch...

here's hatrickstu talking about my car.. if you want more info, pm him.. he knows how quick my g.d. car is... https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...7&postcount=51

Enjoy!

And by the way, I never see any magazines called "Muscle Cobalts & Fast Chevy's" hmm... imagine that.. fast chevy? That's a double negative

 

LOL your so going to get banned. And NO, I reapeat NO 95 Cobra hit 12.9.

Yes a car that put down 170 RWHP is going to hit 12s...your such a fool.

 

This guy is my hero for life
A near stock 95 Cobra hitting 12.9?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA. A friend of mine just got his to run a 13.9@99 and his isnt near stock. Stock intake manny, cam, and heads but with basic bolt ons. Car might be good for a 13.7 if he drives it hard which he wont, but sure as hell not a 12.9. What kinda track are these Stang guys running on, 1000ft tracks?

 

^^^ Very good effort at being funny, but a double negative equals a positive. You should have said "...fast Chevy. That's a oxymoron." Maybe next time.

YOU are the one that said 99-04 GTs can run low 13s, so YOU send us the video. And while your at is lets see the almost stock cobra run 12.9s. Also while your at it, show us the Mustang cutting a 1.4 on street tires.

 

Or maybe, as a Senior Mechanical Engineering student, I should ask one of my professors with doctorates in Physics. (I certainly hope that you understand the point of that statement)


Umm, if they have equal instantaneous horsepower (even if it requires more RPMs) and traction, then, yes, they are.


Maybe you should have used a different example than an AWD car...



Wow, a stock GT going 13's!!!!! Yes, high 13's... never LOW 13's. You're still wrong.


Wait, stock LS1's are still faster than you and you're making jokes like that. You are an embarrasment to Mustang owners especially, and all auto enthusiasts in general.

 

Oh just shutup and go eat some wood.. you people need to learn how to take some jokes or **** right off.. I can say **** if I feel like it, that's what forums are for. And no, i'm not an embarassment, I just hate imports and camaros... imports are wastes of money except for Supras and other high-end imports.. and camaros may be fast, but they weren't quality vehicles..

GET THE **** OVER IT ********!!!!! CAN'T YOU TELL I DONT CARE WHAT YOU PEOPLE THINK OF ME????

All car owners have vehicles that they do not like and I am just one of them that will openly express their opinions and what they know.. so **** off

 

your right, "camaro's may be fast", but most importantly, they are faster than you.

 

Hmm... not all of them..

And there's a lot more cars faster than you

 

only LS1's

 

Yes, you are correct... the only person on this site who knows something

 

trying to look big and important?.. not working.. i'm Pre-med mother ******.. that's a bit higher than mech. engineering.. sorry there pal

 

No no no, the funny thing here is that he actually thinks that the Mustang is a quality vehicle.

 

hmmmmm......yet its been around for 40+ years.

really man, you bring quality into this? c'mon now. if you're gonna say something that dumb, at least say something like "ford needed a blower to get 400hp out of a V8"

 

way to go fucktard How many years has your beloved Camaro been around? what's that.. it's not in production? OH YEAH.. HAHA THEY WERE PIECES OF CRAP ONLY FOCUSED ON MAKING POWER AND NOT BEING COMFORTABLE OR REASONABLY PRICED FOR THE MARKET.. PLUS THEY COULDNT SELL COMPARED TO THE MUSTANG.... looks like the mustang WAS a quality vehicle and still is..

dumbfucks

 

fucktard????, must be in your 'pre-med dictionary'. get a life.

 

Where is the videos? And whats up with all the 1st grade name calling???

 

Where ARE the videos.. we're still trying to get people to re-host them. You know, a server will expire a length after a certain amount of time.

1st grade name calling.. THEY STARTED IT!!! (usual 1st grader excuse) You people act like 14yr olds.. so i'll stoop down to ur level