Stcok LS2 GTO 1/4 mile times:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106613

LS2 Stock Classes:

2) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
3) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89 MPH
4) 05torridred60 12.971 @ 108 MPH - SAP mufflers
5) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
6) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
7) GTOboss 13.007 @ 108.52mph
8) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
9) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
10) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
11) SLoW SHO 13.082 @ 108.15
12) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
13) Aerobirdmotorsports 13.098@106.91
14) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
15) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH

every GTO here beat the BEST stock SS/TC times and most tuned, fully bolted SS/TC times.

These are bone stock. As I said once, Ill repeat it for you:

NO SS/TC IS GOING TO BE FASTER STOCK FOR STOCK OR MODDED VS MODDED. Especailly not a "STOCK" ss/tc vs a MODDED LS2 GTO.

welcome to reality, I will be your guide. The next detour to la-la land is approaching in one mile. You may divert your course, or remain in the real world. The choice is yours.

 

I'm workin on that footage buddy!

 

haha wow man I love you no homo... I swear tc owners are getting dumber by the minute...

 

if u werent so far I wouldnt mind racing u after my fuel injectors and tune. I think it would be a good race.

Im all about the truth. No candy coating anything.

 

im sick of it man... we used to think gto owners on these boards were bad... Now its even the ****** 2.4 liter SS backin up the ss/tc...

God has choosen a new vehicle, he said **** drivin the GTO im gonna take me the badder bitch a ss/tc!!!! Get real people

 

Wow, another straight line race... I feel the pain too. I honestly was expecting a much bigger loss for the TC..... lol

And yeah, lots of dummies here with nothing to do but take shots at a cobalt...

 

if you dont like Cobalts then GTFO? i argued my point the best i could and 1BADSS/SC laid out the facts and well the Cobalt loses in a 1/4 mile. I didnt say it was faster, just said it would be a good race interesting to see. I am still curious though how a roll or highway run would be, maybe the Cobalt might pull away eventually? I'd like to see a video. So far its just been 1/8 1/4 mile drag races where the Cobalt clearly is beaten. Don't be gay and flame about rolls or highway runs. Then I could just say the Cobalt rapes the **** out of the GTO in a road course. They each have their ups and downs and the GTO wins in a straight line 1/8 1/4 mile. I still want to see that highway race.

 

From these two ignorant statments you are saying that if the cobalt was driven better it would have won? And that the GTO only wins in the 1/8th and you actually believe in the 1/4 a TC can stick next to a GTO? Let me help you out a little, what is bad in a drag race is worse from a roll to high speeds for the TC. There was no pull stop, just because you finally see a car from a video that is closer then you will ever get to that loss doesn't mean you can judge distances worth a damn. Bet this is the first time you have seen a video from less then 20 cars behind a GTO in a drag race huh? A stock TC isn't out trapping a stock GTO let alone one with a couple of mods. Look at the trap speed, if the TC trapped higher it stopped his pull, but it dodn't; get over it. Get that through your head. I feel really sorry for you if your dream car is a TC. Have fun driving your NA economy car...

Tyler

BTW OP, you do know the drag race ends at the white line right?

 

You're so fucked in the head you don't even realize it hahahaah. You're gonna shoot yourself in the face when you see the video I post.

 

I can give u the best possible outcome for each on the highway as well. The GTO would still win.

See, unlike the SS/TC, the GTO will not run out of steam up top. The SS/TC has a small turbo designed for instant boost and low end power. This is the reason its dual scroll, and smaller in size. GM designed it small because the general populus doesnt like turbo lag ( even though bigger turbos are faster ).

Once u start getting into the upper mph's that GTO is going to shine. Being a 6 speed also helps too.

Either way the SS/TC = good bottom end power. The GTO = good top end power. On the highway its a GTO's race. From 40-100 its more in favor of the SS/TC, but the GTO will still yank it in the end.

Thats what 99% of people with power do. Thats how 99% of people race.

 

At my altitude, a stock Cobalt SS/TC will pose problems for a stock LS2 GTO which loses alot of power up here, while the hair dryer greatly helps the Cobalt.

So DA at any given part of the Country is a factor in all of this.

My GTO when it was stock went a best of 14.3@97mph at a DA of 7000ft.

Took the GTO to Area51 Raceway in Roswell New Mexico, the DA was at a friendly 5300ft and the car then went 14.19@100mph...

The stock GTO will suffer a greater power loss as the DA increases as opposed to the turbocharged Cobalt, making for a more even race.

Personally, I have never been impressed with this 'LS2 is a topend beast' way of thinking, but I am sure my judgement is skewed because up here, it doesn't have the top that others experience at much lower elevations. Turbocharging is ideal in the higher altitudes.

 

I agree with everything you said, altitude wrecks havoc with NA engines and forced induction is less affected by it, but still affected none the less.

The whole topend thing started with the LS1's and their higher rpm power band compared to the previous generation LT1. Torque peaked higher as well as the ability to rev more freely. Many a times a LT1 would "hang" with a LS1 through the 1/8th with it's plentyful torque down low but after that the LS would continue to pull where the LT would start to fall off. Since it has evolved to all the LS series of motors, with the LS7 being the most notorious on the highway but the other LS motors still being a force to reckon with. Gone are the days of peak torque at 2500 rpm and much more torque then horsepower N/A, when you move the power band higher so goes the motor/cars characteristics.

Another big factor as you know with the GTO's being more a highway car is the lack of a tire out back. Inhibiting the car from launching with much authority on a small tire and have a peaky power band turns the car more into a highway car then 1/8 mile car. Plus having big lungs (large displacement) keeps the car moving strongly into a 100+ mph where a smaller displacement car starts to have to fight more with its lack of raw power.

These are all just things I have learned and experienced with the LS motors, and they do live up to their calling.

Tyler

 

obviously. maybe you just didnt see the white line.

What video is this? Either way you guys talking **** about my NA 2.4 havent read any of my posts in the Advanced Mod section. In a few months my little NA will be faster than most of your supercharged and some of your turbos. I'm putting the M62 in my car by December and putting several mods on it pushing it over 300whp. And i'm working on my RWD conversion next summer using a Sky/Solstice 2.4 chassis with the help of some people like VictoryRedSS and Hunterkiller and a few others.

taking the LS1 out of my dads dirt raced/wrecked Camaro SS and putting it in my 240SX. I know how grand LS motors are.

 

Doesn't mean it's more exiting thats for sure. Just easier. As for power, you drive a fwd car too.. Who are you kidding here... Your nothing serious yourself all things considered, and your opinion really doesnt mean too much when it's clouded by the maturity of a 12 year old. "those with power".... settle down herc.. you have to gut that bus and do a lot more work before you can run anything serious.

After an hr of watching 11+ second cars, Im ready to move on...

And Im fine with the power my car holds down, does enough damage on course for me.
When I get serious about racing, I wont be dumb enough to go FWD....

 

dont get a RWD muscle car either. thats even worse than FWD

 

Fail.

 

"Not too bad,right on his ass"....Huh? The problem is the inbred redneck hillbilly driving the Cobalt,oh yeah,and the fact the GTO is faster.

 

I am not a fan of GTO's, but how can this be seen as a victory for the cobalt in any way?....it got wrecked by every measure...

And who races at the track with the windows down, music blasting and a passenger?...ridiculous driver

 

The driver admits he cant catch him. With the exception of a couple exited people, no one is buying the fact that a stock TC is going pull on a bolted Ls2... I mean.. put the glue bottle down.

 

Nothing serious? LOL. Go drive in circles. I make more power and have the mods to launch better times than u.

Im sorry, youre in the wrong section where people who really race are. Maybe you should request youre very own twisties section! This is a straightline discussion. Take ur non-straight ways elsewhere.


and its spelt "exciting" not "exiting".

 

Hehehe, yeah, I'll get right on it.

Just cause you can beat a pretty much stock tc, doesnt make you anything worth while. And like I said, come out on the track and that lump will get spanked. You throw a lot of weight around for the car you drive...


Oh btw, I can give a flying fk if my spelling offends you. Its a chat forum..

The LS2 GTO is good car, I dont mind them at all. Would much rather have one than a caliber thats for sure.

 

Hey super...it's not worth arguing with him he'll never get over himself because according to him he drives a rocketship that can crush anything it comes across.

 

dummy, were not talking about the special racing u do in circles. In case u didnt read, this is about straightline racing. Something that 99% of us do, and u dont.

Dont try to change the subject. I, and we dont care about how u drive left for however many minutes like a damn gerbil running on a wheel.

I didnt ask if u cared whether ur spelling offended me or not. Im just pointing out how u lack the ability to spell correctly, and make excuses because u ACTUALLY dont know how to spell.

YES! EXACTLY!

This is what I say all the time! I can take on ferraris! I HAVE A FLUX CAPACITOR IN THE GLOVE BOX!

 

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The LS2 GTO is good car, I dont mind them at all. Would much rather have one than a caliber thats for sure. [/QUOTE]



Hed probably like a ls2 as well lol.

 

I think we all would

Ive decided though the next car is going to be a terminator.

U going to shred and regan tomorrow?