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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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This thread has the funnies for sure!
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jarhead
No it doesn't the renault megane r26r does since june of 2008 the cobalt record only lasted a few months ,but the renault is a limited edition 450 made and a carbon fiber hood and had no back seats basicly stripped of 123 kgs it ran 18 mins 17 secs Nürburgring it had a lot of suspension mods also.

http://www.netcarshow.com/renault/2009-megane_r26.r/
I just don't get why gm doesn't produce a few stripped down balts to run around the ring in. That car is basically a circuit car though.

To achieve this result, the car goes without a certain number of comfort-related features, including:

* the rear seats and seatbelts,
* airbags (except driver airbag),
* automatic climate control (available as an option / manual climate control standard),
* rear wiper and wash,
* foglamps,
* headlamp washers,
* the majority of soundproofing material.

Other components that have been modified with a view to reducing weight and optimizing driving ergonomics are:

* the carbon bonnet (a saving of 7.5kg),
* polycarbonate quarterlights and rear screen (a saving of 5.7kg),
* carbon seat shells and aluminium frame (a saving of 25kg),
* six-point harness belts,
* titanium exhaust line (available as an accessory),
* specific lightweight body equipped with roll-cage mounting brackets.

Something tells me this car was built just to make a record..... Its basically a fast noisy piece of crap that handles turns, and is just built for the track. Atleast the cobalt can go over speed bumps and have 5 people in it.

and everyone knows, this comes in every production car...


It also comes with fixed back seats....and the price tag..... ohhhhh the price tag

37,862.14 USD

I will stay happy with my 8:22 record in my car with reclining seats XM radio, and bluetooth. And a livable suspension for the whopping price of 20K. Only an idiot would pay 37K for a FWD race car. For 37K you can get a lotus over there that will run circles around that.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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no *******. im 21 and i have a good ******* job. i graduated a 4 year college in 3 years. why must you say stupid **** like that, do you have nothing else to do?
wow... did daddy also teach you such vulgar language... settle down...
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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and all Chevy would have to do to erase that deficit, better tires and a stage kit
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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eh, you guys shouldn't worry about the ring. Once the RS gets out there, the balt's gonna be old news
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
eh, you guys shouldn't worry about the ring. Once the RS gets out there, the balt's gonna be old news
The Renault beat the RS by a few seconds around a much shorter track. The RS isn't all that great.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by drewbroo
The Renault beat the RS by a few seconds around a much shorter track. The RS isn't all that great.
Which track? I'd expect the RS to pull away from an ss/tc around the track.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
eh, you guys shouldn't worry about the ring. Once the RS gets out there, the balt's gonna be old news



Ford Focus RS?


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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
Which track? I'd expect the RS to pull away from an ss/tc around the track.
Also check the fifth gear review on the Focus RS
"The following video shows a 2009 Ford Focus RS review done by the UK show Fifth Gear. The 2009 Ford Focus RS is powered by a turbocharged 2.5-liter engine that outputs 224kW and 440 Nm of torque to the front wheels. The official specs say the 2009 Ford Focus RS needs 5.9 seconds to reach 100 km/h and that it's able to go as fa
st as 263 km/h. On the UK market the 2009 Ford Focus RS is priced around 25,000 pounds. "

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2009-...RS-review.html


Takes 5.9 seconds to get to 60, 1/4 mile time is 14.0+. Top speed is a respectable 163, and its a nice comfortable car. Its like a really nice GTI. Enough power, nice interior, and drives well. Just doesn't have the all out unforgiving suspension that it would need to beat out the VXR's and Cobalt SS/TC around the ring. Overall I know its better than the cobalt, but for the price they want for it, i would just get an STI, Used C6, Used M3, new 135, used 335 etc you get the point.

And here is where it murdered the focus RS. The renault that is

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/06...3-seconds.html

"According to Renault, the most potent version of the previous generation Megane RS, the 230HP R26.R that went on sale in October 2008 for a limited run of 450 examples, 230 of which are destined for Britain, has set new benchmark lap times at four UK tracks. The French carmaker announced that at Silverstone, Drivers-Republic recorded a lap time of 1 minute and 19.4 sec, almost three seconds faster than the more powerful Ford Focus RS that is equipped with a 300HP 2.5-liter turbocharged five pot while at the West Circuit at Bedford Autodrome, Evo magazine timed the R26.R at 1m 29 sec beating the RS by almost two seconds."
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
Which track? I'd expect the RS to pull away from an ss/tc around the track.

Focus RS already has proven to be a slower track car, but not sure what the final suspension set up will look like. It had a slower time at the ring by a significant margin but not sure of the details
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
Focus RS already has proven to be a slower track car, but not sure what the final suspension set up will look like. It had a slower time at the ring by a significant margin but not sure of the details
No focus has run the 'ring since '05...
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
No focus has run the 'ring since '05...
Ummm no it hasn't. Maybe you are thinking about the FR drive focus.... not the FF

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
No focus has run the 'ring since '05...

http://autoworld.wordpress.com/2008/...fficial-photo/



Yes, its been out there quite a bit, and the times being reported are slower than the TC. Here is a link to a shot of it out in 2008. I know its just testing. However, its yet to be known if full power is at the wheels yet, and if this represents the final suspension set up. In otherwords I am reserving judgment. The dealership up here said it's going to be around 38 000 CDN... No thanks.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jarhead
No it doesn't the renault megane r26r does since june of 2008 the cobalt record only lasted a few months ,but the renault is a limited edition 450 made and a carbon fiber hood and had no back seats basicly stripped of 123 kgs it ran 18 mins 17 secs Nürburgring it had a lot of suspension mods also.

http://www.netcarshow.com/renault/2009-megane_r26.r/
Hardly applies because if you put stickier tires and gutted the TC you can bet it would beat that time. Heck the track was damp when the TC made its rounds around the ring.

Originally Posted by amxguy1970
That's because you had the slush box, when one gear goes about 55 before the next shift through a torque converter it won't feel that fast usually. But what you seem to feel and what is are two different things, the top end of the GTO is much better then a TC. The trap says it all, 109>104.

I have never heard of a 1.7 sixty foot on stock tires, I think the best I have seen is a high 1.8.

Tyler
Lower than stock tire pressures and I forgot drag bags on the GTO too on stock tires. A few have gotten 1.7 sixty foot times on a stock suspension TC Cobalt on MT DRs not even slicks. Pretty Impressive if you ask me.

Originally Posted by SK360
I have an A4 GTO... I can show you top end
My car would rape yours if you didnt use the nitrous.

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
No focus has run the 'ring since '05...
Now that I re-read your comment you are correct, No focus has run the ring since 05, and when it did, it was not that fast. (In comparrison to the times of today.)
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
eh, you guys shouldn't worry about the ring. Once the RS gets out there, the balt's gonna be old news
A set of Dunlop Z1 star specs, a rear antisway bar, and tune and I beg to differ.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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A set of Dunlop Z1 star specs, a rear antisway bar, and tune and I beg to differ.
uhhh ok...?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2

My car would rape yours if you didnt use the nitrous.


and your car would rape my A4 GTO "if" my GTO doesn't start.
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