i'm majoring in civil engineering and i'm either going to minor or double major with mechanical engineering.

 

gravity is a constant, it doesn't show up in any of the eqautions, unless you are trying to figure out how long it will take something to fall. on a flat surface it would not play a role. if the trrack had an uphill slant then it would make a difference but since most tracks i go to are flat, it doesn't matter.

 

what year is it? is he getting one of the new ones and is it a golf or a gti. 1.8t? 2.0t? vr6? if it's an mk5 gti (the new ones) and it's a 2.0t you won't have much troule beating it as long as you get a decent launch. they're high 6 seconds 0-60. unless he has the apr or revo reflash for it, then it will be a much closer race, the reflashes for the 2.0t's and the 7.8t's are insane. if it's a vr6 older model, it'll be a closer race but you'll have an advantage as long as you get a good launch. if it's a golf, and not even a gti, you have nothing to worry about.

 

Awesome, IF I would have went to college, that is what I would have majored in. I am still young we will see. Good luck.

 

Don’t Do it ....

I'll be done my Mech Eng this Summer, I currently work for a supplier and its not at all what I am looking for ... I would advise mixing that Civil with something like business instead of having 2 eng Degrees you might find yourself much better off ... or go for your masters

 

mums the word ...


stay in school

 

I love science, but business seems so much more appealing.

Im working toward a degree in Business Admin, with a concentration in Financial Analysis. Im trying to go for investment banking as a career. Im possibly going to get my 4 yr degree @ Cornell, depending if my current GPA can transfer. For my 6 yr I want to possibly go to NYIF, or NYU, or a different school if I find a better one.

 

Sorry to bring this back, BUT. 8 pages of bitching about weight and HP, and not a single one of you even looked at the torque numbers. Chipped 2.0T GTI 252hp/303lb-ft. That 303lb-ft or torque will move the GTI quicker than the 230lb-ft. of a nicely modded SS.
Listen, torque owns from the drop of the pedal, HP helps further down the strip, or down the highway.
I raced my buddies modded 1.8T with my modded SS, on the highway 3 times. Each and everytime, he pulled on me right from the last honk. Once we hit about 110, he stopped pulling and we were pacing each other with me about 1 car behind.
Bottom line, our torque is our disadvantage.

 

Actually horsepower is more important and all we need in these discussions.

How you liking this stupid weather?

{warning: lil kiddies do not read this}

College is a waste of money unless you want to be an engineer, doctor, lawyer, etc. Even then I could argue that is a waste of money. There are tons of ways to make what college educated people make, sometimes even easier ways. [/rant]

 

Weather sucks, but the latter part of the week looks promising.

I have to disagree about the HP comment being all that is needed. TQ is what moves the car. Turbos produce more tq than SC's. I've seen it time and time again with VW's. My buddys modded 1.8T will usually pull instantly on most NA, SC, and some turboed cars of equal and even higher HP. They profit from the low end torque, though it haunts them later in the RPM range as the torque diminishes.
Our torque curve is linear and slowly progresses. VWs torque rips down low and tapers off up top. But, not wanting to argue it all day, it's just my opinion.

 

haha actually engineering is a waste of time in school ... I learned much more on my co-op .. and half of what I learned there was that what you learned in school dosn't hold up ..

 

I know what you mean... but go to any quarter mile calculator or trap speed calculator online and see if they ask for torque anywhere. I am not saying torque is useless. Torque lets you take advantage of gearing, horsepower lets you take advantage of RPMs. Both have their purposes, but when accelerating a car horsepower is what matters the most.

 

I know I didn't want to completely crush the lil kiddies.

 

Right, but that's because it's easier to calculate a time and speed using two variables. They wouldn't be able to calculate it just using TQ and weight. They'd have to include HP with it.
But those calculators are just estimates in perfect conditions.

 

Ultimately, what really matters is the area under the hp curve over the rpm range that you are racing in.

Because HP is directly proportional to BOTH Tq and RPM, neither tq or rpm are INHERENTLY meaningful. Take for instance a diesel engine that makes 500lbft of torque. Wow! Too bad it's only at 2000rpm... which is equivalent to ~190hp. Now, let's say you put that engine into an RSX and race it against the stock K20-engined RSX. Now the stock RSX only makes ~130ftlb of tq at it's power peak at 8000rpm. That's equivalent to ~198hp. Also, just for fun, lets assume they weigh the same amount.


So here's what we have:

RSX w/ diesel engine: 500 ftlb @ 2000rpm = 190hp
RSX w/ K20A engine: 130ftlb @8000rpm = 198hp

Which one is faster at that point?..... The one with only 130 ft*lb of tq, because it has more hp.


Now, ultimately, no one races at a set rpm (unless you have a CVT), so you have to race over a range of rpms, but the point is clear...

It doesn't matter how you get there, HP wins races, not torque, no matter what Carrol Shelby says. If you don't have a lot of tq, race in your powerband. Launch in the high rpm, stay in the high rpm.

 

What the hell kind of an ignorant statement is that?? Let me see you get a job as an investment banker which makes millions without a masters degree. Ya know what any firm will say to you? Get lost.

This is how college vs non college jobs work:

college:

-garanteed a stable decent job ( depending on the degree ).
-education is free if you know how to work the system ( Air Force pays for my Bachlors, there is also tons of student aid out there that people can look into ).
-unless youre starting a business, or are in business with someone your college degree will allow a higher paying job than someone without one.

non college:

-most reputable high paying jobs require a Bachlors or higher, therefore getting a job that pays 6 figures+ without any degree is going to be extremely hard.
-knowing people is one of the best ways to get a good job without a degree.
-entry level jobs really dont pay squat, u need some sort of technical training/schooling of some sort.

I know a person who is in investment banking. He has a golf course, inground swimming pool, tennis court, mansion, etc., and he has a MBA. Unless youre Bill Gates and pull off a miracle, your average Joe Shmoe without a degree isnt going to be able to get these things and pull these huge salaries ( aka doctors, lawyers, etc ).

Either way, u need some sort of technical training/schooling to make good $$. Im sure your salary doesnt even come close to 6 figs.

Saying college is a waste is an ignorant statment Id expect from someone who isnt smart enough to pull good grades in college. School isnt for everyone, but now adays it is the BEST way to get a good paying job.

 

See C1705, I told you the lil kiddies would be crushed. I was just offered a job that would clear 80k a year easy. "Doing what?" Installing window coverings working less then 20(yes 20) hours a week. There are PLENTY of ways to get a good paying job that is easier then going to college. You even brought up the easiest way, start your own business. Point being if you are patient and keep your eyes open it is very easy to make lots of money. Do you know the % of people that graduate college with a degree in something and end up not even working in that field? Or even utilizing it's pay benefits?? Yet everyone is force fed college, "It's the only way to get a good job." BS, why pay to learn something that you can learn on a job?

 

I agree and disagree. I never went to college and am doing great.

My ex-g/f is on her way to being a surgen at Hopkins in Baltimore. They wont even LOOK at you unless you have 7 years of college. After her 4 year she was accepted into some sort of appretice program, but she had to be an RN. Another job which REQUIRES college.

A have another friend in who programs stuff (he cant tell me exactly) for the government. He has secrety clearance. Another job that require at least 2-3 different certifications and degrees you can only obtain from college.

I agree that its possible to make good money without college. But not doing what you loving doing. IE. Saving lifes with surgery or working at the pentagon like those mentioned above.

My ex g/f is making around 50-60k now while they pay for her to goto college. She'll be making 400-600k when shes graduates. My friend that programs is probably making somewhere around 80-100k easily probably more and hes been there about 1 - 1 1/2 years with plenty of room for advancment. They are both around my age 24-25.

And I make more then both of them, but I work 10x as hard and have longer hours. I didnt goto college either.

What the hell kind of window covering are you installing for 80k a year working for someone? I dont pay my interior designer/installer 10k suppling my own material and it takes those people about a month and there is 4 of them. 10000 / 4 x 12 months = 30k. Hopefully your faster then them....

I would suggest to the younger then me crowd to find something you love. Then persue it, if it doesnt require college thats awesome. If it does then goto college.

 

I agree totally here and said that in one of my first posts. But how many hours will she work as a surgeon and how many does he work? I bet a lot.

Shutters(plantation blinds) mostly... $2.50 a sq.ft., average house we do is 700sq.ft. We also do the other blind style at $15 dollars per. My partner and me can do a 700sq.ft. house in 3 hours. So do the math.

 

I know that there are plenty of good ways to make good money. Hell the last deployment I went on I pocketed $5500 cash a month after taxes. Thats about an 80-85k a yr taxed salary. Im 21, and I can make 5500 a month if I deploy over seas. If I wasnt in school, I would probably be deployed right now.

However, I realize that the job I really want to obtain will pay much more in the long run, and making 5.5k a month is not worth my time right now. I need to get my masters degree to get the job I want, and I want to do it asap. Starting salary is in the 6 figs, and after 10 yrs it isnt unusual to be making millions. That is the type of money I want to be making, regardless of how hard it may be. In order to do that, I need my masters degree.

The people that dont use their degrees to their full potential are often people who major in a degree that isnt very flexible. For example, a degree in music will not help you unless you plan on doing something music related. A broader degree like business administration will be able to get you a job pretty much anywhere.

Unless you own a business, college is the "only way to get the highest paying jobs"