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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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06 Suby TR Feedback

What you guys think about this "Tuner Ready" beast??...u think it would be
an actual contender with the cobalt?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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The WRX TR is a good car, stock for stock, a cobalt would beat it though, but with a few mods, those WRX's get up there. But stock for stock, a cobalt will beat it.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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cobalt 21,000 wrx tr 23,500 , stock for stock its a drivers race
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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wat do you all say about the whp...ive heard its about 180 to the wheels...wats some things that you all have heard?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
The WRX TR is a good car, stock for stock, a cobalt would beat it though, but with a few mods, those WRX's get up there. But stock for stock, a cobalt will beat it.
Negative on that factor. Not sure on the 06's but the 07s have slightly more hp and are much lighter. Plus they have zero traction issues like the balt does. I've driving my SC and my husbands WRX TR and his feels much faster than mine. Yes mine does feel fast, but it doesn't throw you to the seat like the WRX does. My husband raced an 05 SS/SC with a few mods and he said it was a close race, but the WRX was still a bit a head of him....so depending on the mods, the SC could beat the WRX but stock for stock, the WRX would win.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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stock for stock, the wrx and cobalt are close from a dig, the ss.sc will catch it in the end. No doubt. With my mods, Ill take a stock wrx by like 10 cars, lol from 40mph, and unless ou have a bigger turbo, I dont think you havea chance from a roll.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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I dont know about how the turbo in the TR responds compared to the 2.0L wrx, i had a 04 wrx and the turbo lag was horrible. But with the 2.5 wrx is probally alot better and less lag. But i know my 96L with JDM WRX swap w/411 gears will stomp my cobalt. Subarus are great cars, they grip an go. i wish the cobalt was AWD then it would be no contest. These two cars are not in the same class though, so you really cant compare all that much.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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The AWD will give the Scooby an edge in a dig race... but the SS/SC shouldn't have a problem keeping up from a roll. Overall the WRX is a very nice car... but they still cost a few grand too much.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Negative on that factor. Not sure on the 06's but the 07s have slightly more hp and are much lighter. Plus they have zero traction issues like the balt does. I've driving my SC and my husbands WRX TR and his feels much faster than mine. Yes mine does feel fast, but it doesn't throw you to the seat like the WRX does. My husband raced an 05 SS/SC with a few mods and he said it was a close race, but the WRX was still a bit a head of him....so depending on the mods, the SC could beat the WRX but stock for stock, the WRX would win.
This would be a big negative on YOUR post my friend. They can have slightly more HP, but stock for stock, my money would be on the SS/SC. The WRX TR's have like 224 to the CRANK, plush the lose which is between 12%-15%, the SS/SC has more HP and I'd GUESS, not sure on torque numbers, but I know the SS/SC is also lighter than the TR.

You refer to your husband, and you forget that one could have had a bad driver. I don't think that is a reliable source. Two good drivers in a WRX TR and a SS/SC, the ss/sc would have that slighlt lead on it. And with AWD the tractions problems should be low to null, at least no where near as bad as the SS/SC's traction issues. And 'throwing you in your seat' isn't the greatest of comparisons. A car with instant traction from a dig vs a car with little traction from a dig, the one with traction would throw you back because it takes off and grips better.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AspenWhite_Wrx
wat do you all say about the whp...ive heard its about 180 to the wheels...wats some things that you all have heard?
It sounds like you own one.....I mean if you do, you should know lol

But anyway, the newer ones put down around 200 to the wheels I heard.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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It sounds like you own one.....I mean if you do, you should know lol

But anyway, the newer ones put down around 200 to the wheels I heard.
Nah he doesn't own one, but will be soon.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Stock for stock it's a drivers race. The WRX TR is a mid to low 14 second car, just like the Cobalt. I would be curious as to which is faster between a Stage 2 Cobalt and Stage 2 WRX. Here's an idea, why doesn't someone race and post up some footage and time slips?

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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There's a member on this site that owns an 06-07 WRX TR that put down a 13.7 bone stock 1/4 mile. I have yet to see a SS/SC put that down in stock form. I love the SS/SC, but if the TR owner knows how to lauch his AWD, then from a dig it's a win for the TR. From a roll is another story, though...
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Edubs
There's a member on this site that owns an 06-07 WRX TR that put down a 13.7 bone stock 1/4 mile. I have yet to see a SS/SC put that down in stock form. I love the SS/SC, but if the TR owner knows how to lauch his AWD, then from a dig it's a win for the TR. From a roll is another story, though...
Agreed. They don't trap high, which is why a stock ss/sc will pull away on one in a roll race, but a ss/sc also can't pull 1.8 60 footers stock where as the wrx can on street tires.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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13.74@98.25mph w/ 1.9 60ft (bone stock)
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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2006 Steel Grey WRX TR
13.74@98.25mph w/ 1.9 60ft (bone stock)
I'd be interested in knowing how he launched, that's an outstanding for a stock TR. If he launched the way I think he did I feel sorry for his transmission.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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I'd be interested in knowing how he launched, that's an outstanding for a stock TR. If he launched the way I think he did I feel sorry for his transmission.
Exactly. AWD cars your risk your clutch poopin out on ya because of SUCH an aggressive launch...are the wrx trannies any good or are they the ones that are poopy?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Negative on that factor. Not sure on the 06's but the 07s have slightly more hp and are much lighter. Plus they have zero traction issues like the balt does. I've driving my SC and my husbands WRX TR and his feels much faster than mine. Yes mine does feel fast, but it doesn't throw you to the seat like the WRX does. My husband raced an 05 SS/SC with a few mods and he said it was a close race, but the WRX was still a bit a head of him....so depending on the mods, the SC could beat the WRX but stock for stock, the WRX would win.
No offense but you also bashed the living daylights of the SS then went and bought one. And you said your husband had a 260hp accord after just an intake manifold swap. I'm not saying you don't know what your talking about but telling us the TR feels faster with no real proof means nothing coming from you. No offense or anything but yeah, what I said ealier. Plus you seem to forget the most important factor, the driver.

I think the SS/SC and TR for the most part is a drivers race. I've raced one from a dig and a roll and I won both, but the dig was damn close. The roll was not. The guy KILLED me off the launch but once we got to second I pulled hard! Those TRs are slick though and I'd watch out for them on the street, you better be able to drive if you race one from a dig.

Originally Posted by memphisr24
Exactly. AWD cars your risk your clutch poopin out on ya because of SUCH an aggressive launch...are the wrx trannies any good or are they the ones that are poopy?
From experience of having friend with WRXs (bugeyes, and not) their trannies have gotten better. The bugeye WRXs had pretty weak clutches, but they seemed to have fixed it. I wouldn't do real high RPM clutch drops, but you can launch aggressively with the newer models.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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stock for stock...cobalt will take it up top on the highway...but everywhere else should lose or be close to the wrx. WRX's are easy to mod just like the balt. But turbo'd cars are much easier to squeeze power from. Just by going el' cheapo mods like ecu tune + fuel pump + injectors + sti turbo you can get the wrx into the 12's easily and thats just using an oem sti turbo....aftermarket 20G 30R and it'll be a whole different car.

But both cars are easy to mod. Both cars can get ecu tune and boost upgrades in no time.

In the end...pick ur poison...either way both are still boosted...hhahhaha

Regarding clutches on wrx's....yes they are weak compared to the STi. But you have to understand that most ppl that complain bout busted wrx trannys are the ones that abuse it and trash the tranny's doing clutch dumps at 5k etc. I'm not denying they are weak. I have some grinding and whining going on in my 04 wrx tranny, but I take it easy and dun launch it to **** and its still holding out for me after a few years and over 110,000Km's on STOCK CLUTCH! with over 275awhp on a low ass reading heartbreaker "Clayton Dyno''!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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What the TR needs is more cowbell!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by IMADreamer
From experience of having friend with WRXs (bugeyes, and not) their trannies have gotten better. The bugeye WRXs had pretty weak clutches, but they seemed to have fixed it. I wouldn't do real high RPM clutch drops, but you can launch aggressively with the newer models.

I was under the impression that the WRX's have the same tranny through out all year models, can you confirm a transmission change?
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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in most cases people with new cars get a cbe system and air filter and jus take it from there...but wat ive heard is that with the 06 wrx engine management would be a considerable first mod for the car example being the tuning mapping chip....wat do u all think??
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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in most cases people with new cars get a cbe system and air filter and jus take it from there...but wat ive heard is that with the 06 wrx engine management would be a considerable first mod for the car example being the tuning mapping chip....wat do u all think??
Get a Cobb AP or go Utech. Better yet, just go Cobb Stage 2. You can't beat an AP for $700, unless you go with the free ware tuning available, Engenuity. $90 for a cable plus a lap top and you can tune to your hearts content.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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With the TR i was thinkin down the line after ive acquired the cobb ap and wat not of getting a vf39 from the sti and and maybe the sti tmic...would this be a good combo for the tr or should i invest into jus looking for a 20g and dumping all my money into that?...i was thinkin in terms of budget and still trying to be fast LOL
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AspenWhite_Wrx
With the TR i was thinkin down the line after ive acquired the cobb ap and wat not of getting a vf39 from the sti and and maybe the sti tmic...would this be a good combo for the tr or should i invest into jus looking for a 20g and dumping all my money into that?...i was thinkin in terms of budget and still trying to be fast LOL
For me there is no contest between the VF39 and the 20g, 20g any day of the week and twice on Sunday. You'll have to do the same mods to plug in a VF39 that you would a 20g. Injectors, pump, maybe a rail not too sure on the rail, bigger IC. The 20g is a superior turbo and if it weren't for the wonder that is Garret I would get one, hell I may still get one as I'm not sure if I feel like waiting for 3900rpm spool times on a 35r. Oh yeah, drop the TMIC and get a FMIC. That's on my list of things to do as well.
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