06 Suby TR Feedback
Heres what I have to say,
**** THIS SITE.
This site is such a worthless pile of ****. You all think that your Cobalts are hot ****. Just to let you know, GM came out at the last J-Body Bash saying that the Cobalt is the replacement for the Cavalier...and you all fight that its not. Its just a glorified Cavalier. I'll laugh when you all take your cars to the track and get your asses handed to you by a WRX TR.
**** THIS SITE.
This site is such a worthless pile of ****. You all think that your Cobalts are hot ****. Just to let you know, GM came out at the last J-Body Bash saying that the Cobalt is the replacement for the Cavalier...and you all fight that its not. Its just a glorified Cavalier. I'll laugh when you all take your cars to the track and get your asses handed to you by a WRX TR.
does that mean your leaving?
surely after an outburst of hatred such as this, you wont want to hang around anymore right?
I sure hope so.
P.s - were obviously all really good at photoshop, because of the countless stock ss/scs that have dynoed at 215-225 TO THE WHEELS. but yeah....were just making that up to make our cars sound cooler.
PPs- were fighting that the cobalt is the NEW cavalier. ITS NOT. its the REPLACEMENT for the cavalier. just like GM said it is.
PPPS- are you gone yet?
surely after an outburst of hatred such as this, you wont want to hang around anymore right?
I sure hope so.
P.s - were obviously all really good at photoshop, because of the countless stock ss/scs that have dynoed at 215-225 TO THE WHEELS. but yeah....were just making that up to make our cars sound cooler.
PPs- were fighting that the cobalt is the NEW cavalier. ITS NOT. its the REPLACEMENT for the cavalier. just like GM said it is.
PPPS- are you gone yet?
I guess we'll never agree on this point.
But keep in mind that people keep referring to just the WRX in general. The TR is a completely diffrent car than just a base WRX.
As for traction problems....with my car, you can launch it and have no traction problems but once you get to the top of first, you start to lose traction, then you shift lose traction, regain traction and the whole thing starts over again. The Suby doesn't lose traction at all, which is an advantage off the line and between shifts.
And to compare cars in a race at a roll is completely pointless in my opinion. Who is to say the one person didn't know that the race was going to start, etc, etc. IN my opinion, the only thing you can compare is numbers from a track.
And to answer someone on the turbo lag.....pretty much zero turbo lag on my husbands.
We're going to the track on the 14th...I'll let you know details on the numbers....we'll see who is faster.
Also, I love how everyone says that the SS/SC is underrated in HP....you could say that about every car. Its just someones way to trying to make up a reason that their car is faster.
But keep in mind that people keep referring to just the WRX in general. The TR is a completely diffrent car than just a base WRX.
As for traction problems....with my car, you can launch it and have no traction problems but once you get to the top of first, you start to lose traction, then you shift lose traction, regain traction and the whole thing starts over again. The Suby doesn't lose traction at all, which is an advantage off the line and between shifts.
And to compare cars in a race at a roll is completely pointless in my opinion. Who is to say the one person didn't know that the race was going to start, etc, etc. IN my opinion, the only thing you can compare is numbers from a track.
And to answer someone on the turbo lag.....pretty much zero turbo lag on my husbands.
We're going to the track on the 14th...I'll let you know details on the numbers....we'll see who is faster.
Also, I love how everyone says that the SS/SC is underrated in HP....you could say that about every car. Its just someones way to trying to make up a reason that their car is faster.
Just stop talking please. The WRX TR is a stripped down WRX, that is it. There is nothing special about it. It is in no way a completely different car. Do you even know the different Imprezza trim levels? And roll racing is a very accurate way to test which car has more HP. Much more than dead stop racing as less skill is involved.
x2 on this one
NO they are pretty much the same car. Same engine, same body, same tranny, just less creature comforts. Sounds like the same car to me.
Once again you are proving your opinion is worth a little less then a pinch of poop.
Don't bother racing your husband at the track because we already know you can't drive from your "test drive" threads. You vs him will prove nothing.
Again, sorry if I'm sounding harsh but you seriously have no business discussing cars.
Once again you are proving your opinion is worth a little less then a pinch of poop.
Don't bother racing your husband at the track because we already know you can't drive from your "test drive" threads. You vs him will prove nothing.
Again, sorry if I'm sounding harsh but you seriously have no business discussing cars.
Heres what I have to say,
**** THIS SITE.
This site is such a worthless pile of ****. You all think that your Cobalts are hot ****. Just to let you know, GM came out at the last J-Body Bash saying that the Cobalt is the replacement for the Cavalier...and you all fight that its not. Its just a glorified Cavalier. I'll laugh when you all take your cars to the track and get your asses handed to you by a WRX TR.
**** THIS SITE.
This site is such a worthless pile of ****. You all think that your Cobalts are hot ****. Just to let you know, GM came out at the last J-Body Bash saying that the Cobalt is the replacement for the Cavalier...and you all fight that its not. Its just a glorified Cavalier. I'll laugh when you all take your cars to the track and get your asses handed to you by a WRX TR.
It can be a replacement, and a glorified, but it can beat your Sentra still...so go sell your cobalt, that you can't seem to drive, and stop getting upset when we all prove you WRONG.
So get your Sentra, and have fun.
Remember, we love your headlights!

does that mean your leaving?
surely after an outburst of hatred such as this, you wont want to hang around anymore right?
I sure hope so.
P.s - were obviously all really good at photoshop, because of the countless stock ss/scs that have dynoed at 215-225 TO THE WHEELS. but yeah....were just making that up to make our cars sound cooler.
PPs- were fighting that the cobalt is the NEW cavalier. ITS NOT. its the REPLACEMENT for the cavalier. just like GM said it is.
PPPS- are you gone yet?
surely after an outburst of hatred such as this, you wont want to hang around anymore right?
I sure hope so.
P.s - were obviously all really good at photoshop, because of the countless stock ss/scs that have dynoed at 215-225 TO THE WHEELS. but yeah....were just making that up to make our cars sound cooler.
PPs- were fighting that the cobalt is the NEW cavalier. ITS NOT. its the REPLACEMENT for the cavalier. just like GM said it is.
PPPS- are you gone yet?
Last edited by Scythe_Snake; Apr 7, 2007 at 02:08 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i think people are just trying to point out that from a roll, or on the street where the subie cant drop the clutch and squirt off the line like it can at the track.....that the cobalt has a chance to hang with it.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
Thank you.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
As for your words in bold, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
Street racing is bad, blah blah blah, save it for someone else because 99% of people on this forum and every other car forum in the world have street raced. It doesn't make it smart, but it happens. Please shut up the citizens of css.net is tired of your ****.
TRs are great cars. Easy to mod, pretty inexpensive, and quick. I'm not sure what else you want as far as opinion goes. Just go drive one and see what you think.
No one is saying the SS is faster then a WRX, but on the street and from a roll it's a drivers race. From a stop the WRX OBVIOUSLY has the advantage.
[QUOTE=IMADreamer;962312]
TRs are great cars. Easy to mod, pretty inexpensive, and quick. I'm not sure what else you want as far as opinion goes. Just go drive one and see what you think.
all that summed up...thanks for ur opinion
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TRs are great cars. Easy to mod, pretty inexpensive, and quick. I'm not sure what else you want as far as opinion goes. Just go drive one and see what you think.
all that summed up...thanks for ur opinion
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Wow
I dont think anyone will disagree that when you put the rex on a sticky track, that AWD will give it a noticable advantage.
i think people are just trying to point out that from a roll, or on the street where the subie cant drop the clutch and squirt off the line like it can at the track.....that the cobalt has a chance to hang with it.
i think people are just trying to point out that from a roll, or on the street where the subie cant drop the clutch and squirt off the line like it can at the track.....that the cobalt has a chance to hang with it.
Thank you.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
You don't know what you're talking about. You constantly spit out wrong information, and then call the people that prove you wrong, 'idiots'. I thought you were leaving, by the way. Like I said, go sell your SS and listen to your husband about everything since he is always so right.

[QUOTE=AspenWhite_Wrx;962335]I told you you'd love these forums.
Last edited by Scythe_Snake; Apr 7, 2007 at 09:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Thank you.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
your such a tease.
Roll racing has too many things to considered....the other drive may not know the race is starting, it all depends on who is in what gear and what RPM they are running at to begin the race....too many variables. All roll races end up with is someone gets to 80 mph and says "Screw this, I don't want to get pull over or create an accident" and slows down and the other drive flys past and then runs and tells all of his buddies that he beat such and such car......yeah thats a ricer race....happened a few too many times in my town with all of the POS cars that are barely holding together.
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
Last edited by katie; Apr 8, 2007 at 09:53 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Roll racing has too many things to considered....the other drive may not know the race is starting, it all depends on who is in what gear and what RPM they are running at to begin the race....too many variables. All roll races end up with is someone gets to 80 mph and says "Screw this, I don't want to get pull over or create an accident" and slows down and the other drive flys past and then runs and tells all of his buddies that he beat such and such car......yeah thats a ricer race....happened a few too many times in my town with all of the POS cars that are barely holding together.
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
All the "factors" you said about roll racing are total BS. If both parties don't know it's a race then obviously IT'S NOT A RACE!!! There are far more factors involved in dig racing. FAR MORE. Again roll racing takes the driver out of the equation anyone with half a brain knows this. It takes no skill to mash the gas and upshift. A monkey could do it.
The SS/SC has no traction issues from a roll, THAT'S THE POINT!!!! It makes it a true comparison to how much power is getting to the ground because there are no traction issues.
I wouldn't go tell your friends about this thread because they are libel to read it and realize how dumb you truly are.
Just because your husband works at autozone doesn't mean he knows a thing about cars and once again at the track from a stop the WRX will win in a quartermile run no matter who is driving it so save your gas.
Around the 1st week of may I will be getting together with the guy I know who has a TR. We will race from a stop and a roll and I will show you what I mean. From a stop he will win, from a roll I will win. That's the way it is everytime between us. Maybe we will even switch cars and do it so you can see that from a roll the SS pulls on the TR. When you go to the track look at the trap speeds, they are similar. Actually the SS is a little faster. I trapped around 98+ when I went to the track, the TRs are trapping around 97. That's the difference.
I hope you have a happy Easter and I hope the Easter bunny brings you some brains.
Last edited by IMADreamer; Apr 8, 2007 at 01:54 PM.
My husband doesn't work at AutoZone. AutoZone is a bunch of morons. And he doesn't just work there, he manages the store...so he must know a little bit of something to be able to manage a parts store. And just to let you know, my husband does know his **** about racing....if any of you were ever on J-body.org you would know him....yep he was the one with the 900hp turbo ecotec and a 6-speed Isuzu tranny...he knows a little bit of something on how to build and race a fast car....and I've been along every step of the way, I know more than you think....you guys just don't give me the credit because I'm a girl and you guys are retarded ricers.
Oh and driver is still in the equation...because people do miss gears every once in a while when racing along with when they shift, etc, etc...that all affects the race.....anytime you are racing a car, you always have to have the driver in the equation...if you don't, who's racing?
Oh and driver is still in the equation...because people do miss gears every once in a while when racing along with when they shift, etc, etc...that all affects the race.....anytime you are racing a car, you always have to have the driver in the equation...if you don't, who's racing?
Roll racing has too many things to considered....the other drive may not know the race is starting, it all depends on who is in what gear and what RPM they are running at to begin the race....too many variables. All roll races end up with is someone gets to 80 mph and says "Screw this, I don't want to get pull over or create an accident" and slows down and the other drive flys past and then runs and tells all of his buddies that he beat such and such car......yeah thats a ricer race....happened a few too many times in my town with all of the POS cars that are barely holding together.
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
Yeah the Cobalt may put more power to the ground, but it gets zero traction with that power.....so really, the power doesn't matter at that point. Thats why they make very few boosted FWD cars....they have tons of traction issues.
Oh I know about street racing, I've done it....but I don't commend it anymore. After personally knowing 2 people who have died from street racing and one of them I saw, yeah I'm very anti-street racing now.
Oh and y'all are comparing stock for stock, how often do you find a stock Cobalt to go up against a 100% stock WRX?
I told my husband about this post, and he laughed when he heard about it. He said "Fine wait until the 14th when we race the 2 cars." And I mentioned that all of you are saying "Well I don't know how to drive my car." He said "Fine, you'll be in the WRX, and you'll still beat the Cobalt." Then we told 4 other people at the parts store he works at and the all busted out laughing too....they couldn't believe that you guys actually think your cars are the faster **** on the road....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNQVSlSN4mI
In a group of ricers, they probably think Civic Si's are faster than Cobalt SS/SC's
Everytime you post, it doesn't make you sound smarter, honestly. We don't care if your 50HP gaining husband laughes or not, nor his friends.
My husband doesn't work at AutoZone. AutoZone is a bunch of morons. And he doesn't just work there, he manages the store...so he must know a little bit of something to be able to manage a parts store. And just to let you know, my husband does know his **** about racing....if any of you were ever on J-body.org you would know him....yep he was the one with the 900hp turbo ecotec and a 6-speed Isuzu tranny...he knows a little bit of something on how to build and race a fast car....and I've been along every step of the way, I know more than you think....you guys just don't give me the credit because I'm a girl and you guys are retarded ricers.
Oh and driver is still in the equation...because people do miss gears every once in a while when racing along with when they shift, etc, etc...that all affects the race.....anytime you are racing a car, you always have to have the driver in the equation...if you don't, who's racing?
Oh and driver is still in the equation...because people do miss gears every once in a while when racing along with when they shift, etc, etc...that all affects the race.....anytime you are racing a car, you always have to have the driver in the equation...if you don't, who's racing?
Its still AutoZone none the less.
And the stuff about you being a girl is TOTAL BS. There are other women on this site who are very credited and know their stuff, and we give them tons of credit, because a good portion of the time, they know what they're talking about and are honest. Don't call us ricers when you're listening to a ricer husband.
He was saying that the driver is less of a factor. It takes out the good launch vs. bad launch factor.
See, here is all we've seen you do on your time here. Do nothing but bash the cobalt ss/sc. If we made a 'thoughts on the civic Si' thread you'd probably side with the civic Si and bash the ss/sc. You don't give it enough credit in my opinion. Just like what 'ImADreamer' said. From a dig, money is on the WRX, from a roll, the SS/SC would get it probably. Both are great cars, the WRX TR is a fast, AWD car that responds well to mods, but remember, just because its an import, its not necessarily faster!
No stock SS/SC is catching this car and most Stage 2 cars. Also think he only cut a 1.9 that pass, 1.7s and 1.8s are possible. There are also a lot of WRXs running around 13.8s.
And yeah ROLL RACING IS LAME no matter what anyone says.
This is from someone that would chop off everyone's car on this site and everyone that you know's car....
You basically just made my argument for me . . . it's ONLY about how much power a car makes, not about if the driver can drive, not about if the suspension works, nothing. It's the Special Olympics of racing . . . for retards ONLY. Why not just scale the cars, then go to a dyno and race calculators??? It's be safer and less wear and tear on the cars!! If all that weren't enough, there's no clear-cut start OR finish line . . . some ******* can do a ricer flyby and claim he won even though the other guy had 10 cars on him when he let off.
I stand by my statement that freeway racing is just plain gay. Learn to drive and learn to tune a chassis . . . if you can't do that, go find another hobby.
I stand by my statement that freeway racing is just plain gay. Learn to drive and learn to tune a chassis . . . if you can't do that, go find another hobby.
/end thread
Thank you.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
Roll racing is bull-****. Does not give a true estimate to who is faster. Oh and to let you know, street racing is illegal....I know 2 people who have died during street racing, have fun dying because you want to prove your car is faster from a roll.....you people are ******* stupid.
im sorry, i didnt mean that...
Last edited by ssmokin; Apr 8, 2007 at 03:57 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Why call people stupid when you are unable to read???
BUT........................................
No stock SS/SC is catching this car and most Stage 2 cars. Also think he only cut a 1.9 that pass, 1.7s and 1.8s are possible. There are also a lot of WRXs running around 13.8s.
And yeah ROLL RACING IS LAME no matter what anyone says.
This is from someone that would chop off everyone's car on this site and everyone that you know's car....
/end thread
BUT........................................
No stock SS/SC is catching this car and most Stage 2 cars. Also think he only cut a 1.9 that pass, 1.7s and 1.8s are possible. There are also a lot of WRXs running around 13.8s.
And yeah ROLL RACING IS LAME no matter what anyone says.
This is from someone that would chop off everyone's car on this site and everyone that you know's car....
/end thread
And anyone can just use your argument against you. I could easily say DIG RACING IS LAME no matter what anyone says. Or DRAG RACING is lame, no matter what anyone says. So, that argument is null and void.
Last edited by Scythe_Snake; Apr 11, 2007 at 01:35 PM.
i think its safe to say that this going nowhere because there are alot of arguments going on...i didnt intend on this thread turning into wrx tr vs. a cobalt deathmatch...the title of the thread is " 06 tr feedback" not "lets all argue about which car is faster"...i started this thread to see everyones opinion of the car not talk about racing from digs or rolls because either way both types of races have issues involved at times and there are always instances when there is something wrong with the car or the driver PERIOD...so lets cool it peeps



Maybe if people stop BUYING those pieces-of-****, they'll stop BUILDING them!!