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There are no roll racing tracks IN THE WORLD. So racing from a roll is useful to no one but idiots. One fact does remain, several people said the SS/SC was faster before a dig or roll was brought up. Katie argued that and people argued back and then people argued that nobody said the SS/SC was faster when IN FACT people did. That was her main point and she was 100% right in that, just because she posted some misinformation or worded something wrong does make her 100% wrong or make everything she said JUST opinion.
And MR. Snake, you might have just mis-worded it but there were no TRs in 04 and 05.
And MR. Snake, you might have just mis-worded it but there were no TRs in 04 and 05.
Isn't NASCAR roll racing?
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Roll racing is very common. And nascar is roll racing. They start up go a lap and then gun it. Roll racing is mroe acceptable than you seem to believe.
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It embarrasses me because people are arguing over "roll racing" and refuse to accept that the Cobalt isn't the fastest thing on 4 wheels.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
NASCAR is not roll racing. When does a roll race stop? It stops when one pulls significantly ahead of the other.... or an obstacle gets in the way. NASCAR is a lap race where the focus isn't solely on power, but also on how well the drivers can manage a number of factors and maneuver their cars. It's about taking lines and passing. I don't particularly like NASCAR, but at least it requires some skill. Roll racing is just an exhibition of power.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
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P.S. the highway has turns. If you go from a roll and a turn is coming up a lot of people would go with the road of course.
It embarrasses me because people are arguing over "roll racing" and refuse to accept that the Cobalt isn't the fastest thing on 4 wheels.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
NASCAR is not roll racing. When does a roll race stop? It stops when one pulls significantly ahead of the other.... or an obstacle gets in the way. NASCAR is a lap race where the focus isn't solely on power, but also on how well the drivers can manage a number of factors and maneuver their cars. It's about taking lines and passing. I don't particularly like NASCAR, but at least it requires some skill. Roll racing is just an exhibition of power.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
NASCAR is not roll racing. When does a roll race stop? It stops when one pulls significantly ahead of the other.... or an obstacle gets in the way. NASCAR is a lap race where the focus isn't solely on power, but also on how well the drivers can manage a number of factors and maneuver their cars. It's about taking lines and passing. I don't particularly like NASCAR, but at least it requires some skill. Roll racing is just an exhibition of power.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
How is roll racing rice? Please explain this to me. And I hope you've never roll raced before either. What do you mean its for people who can't handle a launch? You're saying people who race form rolls can't race from a dig either? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I don't care for your cookie or anyone else's
He doesn't have an SS/SC. It a 2.4L SS. You like him because he agreed with you. I hope you're not taking people's opinions, mines or any one else's and stereotyping the whoel site. Its a bunch of people with numerous opinions.
There is hope for this site after all. And yeah your SS/SC looks sweet!!!!Last edited by Scythe_Snake; Apr 12, 2007 at 03:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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People know the cobalt isn't the fastest thing out there. We were talking about THIS SPECIFIC CAR, from a roll and from a dig. ROll racing IS an exhibition of power. As is racing in general right?
How is roll racing rice? Please explain this to me. And I hope you've never roll raced before either.
How is roll racing rice? Please explain this to me. And I hope you've never roll raced before either.
An occasional roll race isn't rice. If you're a street racer, regardless of whether or not it's "ok" to do, a roll race is sometimes the only option you have when you run into a car to run (ie. on a highway).
But using roll racing as a standard to compare cars is rice. To say, "Oh, that car isn't fast. I'd kill it in a roll race" is rice. So what if you're not the fastest off the line? This car might crush you in a drag race. So why don't you see how they stack up on a road course or autocross course? Last time I checked, there were sanctioned events for drag racing, autocross, and road racing. I couldn't find the website for the National Roll Racing Association though.
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Haha thanks. As scythe pointed out though... it's a 2.4L SS.
Racing in general is not just an exhibition of power. Why do you think sanctioned events have classes? Why do classes have power and mod limits? Racing is an exhibition of skill, reflexes, endurance, and power.
An occasional roll race isn't rice. If you're a street racer, regardless of whether or not it's "ok" to do, a roll race is sometimes the only option you have when you run into a car to run (ie. on a highway).
But using roll racing as a standard to compare cars is rice. To say, "Oh, that car isn't fast. I'd kill it in a roll race" is rice. So what if you're not the fastest off the line? This car might crush you in a drag race. So why don't you see how they stack up on a road course or autocross course? Last time I checked, there were sanctioned events for drag racing, autocross, and road racing. I couldn't find the website for the National Roll Racing Association though.
Racing in general is not just an exhibition of power. Why do you think sanctioned events have classes? Why do classes have power and mod limits? Racing is an exhibition of skill, reflexes, endurance, and power.
An occasional roll race isn't rice. If you're a street racer, regardless of whether or not it's "ok" to do, a roll race is sometimes the only option you have when you run into a car to run (ie. on a highway).
But using roll racing as a standard to compare cars is rice. To say, "Oh, that car isn't fast. I'd kill it in a roll race" is rice. So what if you're not the fastest off the line? This car might crush you in a drag race. So why don't you see how they stack up on a road course or autocross course? Last time I checked, there were sanctioned events for drag racing, autocross, and road racing. I couldn't find the website for the National Roll Racing Association though.
Main point:
I respect that and I see where you're coming from. From my own personal argument, I said the WRX TR has no top end from a roll, but from a dig and overall, the car is a beast. I know the SS/SC isn't god, trust me. AspenWhite and I have had arguments where he says that he is (not seriously) hating cobalts because they're fast as freak. I argue the fact that most of the time its from a roll that the videos of the TR and the SC meet, and say from a dig, its quite the bit different. I never said the 'Rex' isn't fast at all. I argue on the side of the car a lot.
My early statement about racing's point, I retract.
My point was that roll racing isn't always bad (earlier example. if you're on the highway and someone wants to run. you're not going to simply stop and go from a dig). Dig racing is the more skillful thing to do and proves more.
But I get your point of view. +1
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Eh... tit for tat. Maybe I misread the argument. I'm just getting tired of reading thread after thread full of excuses when people get beat off the line. Traction... it's a bitch. But you deal with it. I guess what I was saying is... give credit where credit is due... and you've done that.
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Eh... tit for tat. Maybe I misread the argument. I'm just getting tired of reading thread after thread full of excuses when people get beat off the line. Traction... it's a bitch. But you deal with it. I guess what I was saying is... give credit where credit is due... and you've done that.
I know when I'm going to get beat. Off the line that TR will own me into hell and back.I understand where you're coming from, it does get a bit tiring.
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There we go all that summed up....as ive talked about with snake outside the forums the tr or imprezas for that matter were in my opinion were not meant to be top end demons..as you have seen in many commercials the wrx is a rally bred car...i watched a program and in the commentary the narrator quickly lets you kno that the car has no top end(consult streetfire for video) but that the cars have all low end to quickly accelerate out of turns...not saying that roll racing is a bad thing but in a sense to me is not meant for the impreza for that matter...point across i thank PpAzZ1101 for clearing that up
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There we go all that summed up....as ive talked about with snake outside the forums the tr or imprezas for that matter were in my opinion were not meant to be top end demons..as you have seen in many commercials the wrx is a rally bred car...i watched a program and in the commentary the narrator quickly lets you kno that the car has no top end(consult streetfire for video) but that the cars have all low end to quickly accelerate out of turns...not saying that roll racing is a bad thing but in a sense to me is not meant for the impreza for that matter...point across i thank PpAzZ1101 for clearing that up
We've both been saying that forever. Somethings are good from a roll, some things are not. How many times have we talked about this kinda stuff?
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dude u blow me...and i kno we talked about it jus throwin it out there so everybody can stop friggin bickering and gettting off topic of the thread..my thread has not said anything but roll racing and we hate katie for the last 3 pages
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But you're right. bottom line is....WRX TR is t3h r0xx0r5! T3h s3x!!!
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I don't know how some people misinterpret a discussion about two cars racing with two different types of starts (roll, dig) and turning into "people saying the Cobalt is Gods gift" or whatever. I don't think anyone here believe the Cobalt is the fastest thing every and let's be honest it's a mid 14 second car so it's not all that great, but if people would take what was being said in context they would actually get the point. I feel like respect has been given to the TR here, it's been mentioned it's quick, great from a dig, and mods well. I don't know what the hell some of you want? Do you want us to oooh and ah over it like it's a Ferrari Enzo? It is what it is and from a dig it's faster then a cobalt from a roll it's not. The trap speeds show that.
Roll racing, whether there is a sanctioned body for it or not is a very common type of racing on the street. Deal with it. I've definately done more roll races then dig races and it's not because I can't launch it's because where I live there are only three stop lights and most of my challenges come on the interstate. So I roll race. I'd rather dig race, at the track myself but it's not always and option.
Someone lock this thread before more trolls show up.
Roll racing, whether there is a sanctioned body for it or not is a very common type of racing on the street. Deal with it. I've definately done more roll races then dig races and it's not because I can't launch it's because where I live there are only three stop lights and most of my challenges come on the interstate. So I roll race. I'd rather dig race, at the track myself but it's not always and option.
Someone lock this thread before more trolls show up.
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You just don't know when to shut up do you? You do realize everytime you post you're only hurting yourself.
For christ sakes you said the WRX TR and the WRX were 2 different models with different HP and Torque. You say your husband has every car my god. We're talking about a 06-07 WRX TR, which is different than the 04-05 models, and the TR is just a bare-bones version of the WRX, not a different model.:
For christ sakes you said the WRX TR and the WRX were 2 different models with different HP and Torque. You say your husband has every car my god. We're talking about a 06-07 WRX TR, which is different than the 04-05 models, and the TR is just a bare-bones version of the WRX, not a different model.:
It embarrasses me because people are arguing over "roll racing" and refuse to accept that the Cobalt isn't the fastest thing on 4 wheels.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
NASCAR is not roll racing. When does a roll race stop? It stops when one pulls significantly ahead of the other.... or an obstacle gets in the way. NASCAR is a lap race where the focus isn't solely on power, but also on how well the drivers can manage a number of factors and maneuver their cars. It's about taking lines and passing. I don't particularly like NASCAR, but at least it requires some skill. Roll racing is just an exhibition of power.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
13.7 in the 1/4. No Cobalt does that stock. Boo hoo. Get over it. Don't try to redeem the Cobalt with "roll racing".
For a site where people hand out the "ricer" label pretty often, there sure are a lot of roll racers on here.
NASCAR is not roll racing. When does a roll race stop? It stops when one pulls significantly ahead of the other.... or an obstacle gets in the way. NASCAR is a lap race where the focus isn't solely on power, but also on how well the drivers can manage a number of factors and maneuver their cars. It's about taking lines and passing. I don't particularly like NASCAR, but at least it requires some skill. Roll racing is just an exhibition of power.
Roll racing is street racing. It's for people that can't handle a launch... or for the occasional street racer who happens to find a car on the freeway. Show me a sanctioned roll racing circuit and I'll give you a cookie. There's no such thing.
Round of applause please! Sweet looking balt.
Everyone has been talking about "roll racing shows how much power is put to the ground." If you want to know how much power each car puts to the ground, take it to a damn dyno. Thats the only proof you will have on which car has more power.....there are too many variables to consider in roll racing or dig racing or any other kind of racing for that matter....everyone is going to have their own opinions and no one is going to agree on something because if someone says "Fine I'm going to go out and race this TR with my SS/SC" and posts a video of it that the TR won, someone is going to say "Well so and so didn't know how to drive, or they had this mod and the other car didn't, etc, etc" So just deal with it.
I love how Snake you changed your tune after someone else came in and smacked you down as well....makes me wonder how many of the people on here were just posting and agreeing with you just because oyu have "credibility"?
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My husband has an 07 TR. Yes, the 06 and 07 are different from the previous models, they have more hP and a different motor. I mistakingly typed WRX when I meant Impreza....sorry for a slight error. But yes my husband has a TR.....both of us have had many cars. He traded his Accord for the WRX TR. You people are something else.
Round of applause please! Sweet looking balt.
Everyone has been talking about "roll racing shows how much power is put to the ground." If you want to know how much power each car puts to the ground, take it to a damn dyno. Thats the only proof you will have on which car has more power.....there are too many variables to consider in roll racing or dig racing or any other kind of racing for that matter....everyone is going to have their own opinions and no one is going to agree on something because if someone says "Fine I'm going to go out and race this TR with my SS/SC" and posts a video of it that the TR won, someone is going to say "Well so and so didn't know how to drive, or they had this mod and the other car didn't, etc, etc" So just deal with it.
I love how Snake you changed your tune after someone else came in and smacked you down as well....makes me wonder how many of the people on here were just posting and agreeing with you just because oyu have "credibility"?
Round of applause please! Sweet looking balt.
Everyone has been talking about "roll racing shows how much power is put to the ground." If you want to know how much power each car puts to the ground, take it to a damn dyno. Thats the only proof you will have on which car has more power.....there are too many variables to consider in roll racing or dig racing or any other kind of racing for that matter....everyone is going to have their own opinions and no one is going to agree on something because if someone says "Fine I'm going to go out and race this TR with my SS/SC" and posts a video of it that the TR won, someone is going to say "Well so and so didn't know how to drive, or they had this mod and the other car didn't, etc, etc" So just deal with it.
I love how Snake you changed your tune after someone else came in and smacked you down as well....makes me wonder how many of the people on here were just posting and agreeing with you just because oyu have "credibility"?
Snake hasn't changed anything, maybe his tone, but not his tune and Snake is a respected member here so his credibility is as good as gold.
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I don't know how some people misinterpret a discussion about two cars racing with two different types of starts (roll, dig) and turning into "people saying the Cobalt is Gods gift" or whatever. I don't think anyone here believe the Cobalt is the fastest thing every and let's be honest it's a mid 14 second car so it's not all that great, but if people would take what was being said in context they would actually get the point. I feel like respect has been given to the TR here, it's been mentioned it's quick, great from a dig, and mods well. I don't know what the hell some of you want? Do you want us to oooh and ah over it like it's a Ferrari Enzo? It is what it is and from a dig it's faster then a cobalt from a roll it's not. The trap speeds show that.
Roll racing, whether there is a sanctioned body for it or not is a very common type of racing on the street. Deal with it. I've definately done more roll races then dig races and it's not because I can't launch it's because where I live there are only three stop lights and most of my challenges come on the interstate. So I roll race. I'd rather dig race, at the track myself but it's not always and option.
Someone lock this thread before more trolls show up.
Roll racing, whether there is a sanctioned body for it or not is a very common type of racing on the street. Deal with it. I've definately done more roll races then dig races and it's not because I can't launch it's because where I live there are only three stop lights and most of my challenges come on the interstate. So I roll race. I'd rather dig race, at the track myself but it's not always and option.
Someone lock this thread before more trolls show up.
And as for roll racing, you basically reiterated what I said earlier. It's sometimes necessary on the street... moreso in your area simply because of the environment. When I see street races out here though, people go to specific empty stretches of road and line up... and stage at certain redlights. It's a matter of environment and circumstance. The point I was trying to make was that comparing performance in a roll race as a matter of which car is better/faster is a dumb thing to do. You don't have to agree... that's just my opinion.
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My husband has an 07 TR. Yes, the 06 and 07 are different from the previous models, they have more hP and a different motor. I mistakingly typed WRX when I meant Impreza....sorry for a slight error. But yes my husband has a TR.....both of us have had many cars. He traded his Accord for the WRX TR. You people are something else.
Round of applause please! Sweet looking balt.
Everyone has been talking about "roll racing shows how much power is put to the ground." If you want to know how much power each car puts to the ground, take it to a damn dyno. Thats the only proof you will have on which car has more power.....there are too many variables to consider in roll racing or dig racing or any other kind of racing for that matter....everyone is going to have their own opinions and no one is going to agree on something because if someone says "Fine I'm going to go out and race this TR with my SS/SC" and posts a video of it that the TR won, someone is going to say "Well so and so didn't know how to drive, or they had this mod and the other car didn't, etc, etc" So just deal with it.
I love how Snake you changed your tune after someone else came in and smacked you down as well....makes me wonder how many of the people on here were just posting and agreeing with you just because oyu have "credibility"?
Round of applause please! Sweet looking balt.
Everyone has been talking about "roll racing shows how much power is put to the ground." If you want to know how much power each car puts to the ground, take it to a damn dyno. Thats the only proof you will have on which car has more power.....there are too many variables to consider in roll racing or dig racing or any other kind of racing for that matter....everyone is going to have their own opinions and no one is going to agree on something because if someone says "Fine I'm going to go out and race this TR with my SS/SC" and posts a video of it that the TR won, someone is going to say "Well so and so didn't know how to drive, or they had this mod and the other car didn't, etc, etc" So just deal with it.
I love how Snake you changed your tune after someone else came in and smacked you down as well....makes me wonder how many of the people on here were just posting and agreeing with you just because oyu have "credibility"?
I didn't changed my tune in the least bit, i stand by what I say. I changed my tone just like ImADreamer said. Notice nearly every thread you post on things go to heck. Stop posting, please. I can see things from more than one side and am not bullheaded and I don't think i knoiw everything. The other member came in and posted a good argument with back up and he came in WITH AN OPINION and not coming in saying what is and what isn't. No one smacked me down at all, you want them to, but they didn't. Sounds like someone is gettign upset hm? Just stop, you're done...and dumb.
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I think you were misinterpreting what I was saying in my posts. I know people don't literally think that the Cobalt is is the fastest thing on four wheels. I was making the point that people on this site are slow to admit when another car can take the Cobalt.... not just SS/SC owners, but 2.4L SS and 2.2L owners as well. It was a generalization about the population on this site... not a specific summary of anyone in particular.
And as for roll racing, you basically reiterated what I said earlier. It's sometimes necessary on the street... moreso in your area simply because of the environment. When I see street races out here though, people go to specific empty stretches of road and line up... and stage at certain redlights. It's a matter of environment and circumstance. The point I was trying to make was that comparing performance in a roll race as a matter of which car is better/faster is a dumb thing to do. You don't have to agree... that's just my opinion.
And as for roll racing, you basically reiterated what I said earlier. It's sometimes necessary on the street... moreso in your area simply because of the environment. When I see street races out here though, people go to specific empty stretches of road and line up... and stage at certain redlights. It's a matter of environment and circumstance. The point I was trying to make was that comparing performance in a roll race as a matter of which car is better/faster is a dumb thing to do. You don't have to agree... that's just my opinion.
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I think you were misinterpreting what I was saying in my posts. I know people don't literally think that the Cobalt is is the fastest thing on four wheels. I was making the point that people on this site are slow to admit when another car can take the Cobalt.... not just SS/SC owners, but 2.4L SS and 2.2L owners as well. It was a generalization about the population on this site... not a specific summary of anyone in particular.
And as for roll racing, you basically reiterated what I said earlier. It's sometimes necessary on the street... moreso in your area simply because of the environment. When I see street races out here though, people go to specific empty stretches of road and line up... and stage at certain redlights. It's a matter of environment and circumstance. The point I was trying to make was that comparing performance in a roll race as a matter of which car is better/faster is a dumb thing to do. You don't have to agree... that's just my opinion.
And as for roll racing, you basically reiterated what I said earlier. It's sometimes necessary on the street... moreso in your area simply because of the environment. When I see street races out here though, people go to specific empty stretches of road and line up... and stage at certain redlights. It's a matter of environment and circumstance. The point I was trying to make was that comparing performance in a roll race as a matter of which car is better/faster is a dumb thing to do. You don't have to agree... that's just my opinion.
First off, my bad didn't look close enough to see it was a 2.4 SS.
To everything else... I see roll racing as being lame, period. It takes zero skill, talent, or brains. And what makes it rice is that people do it instead of from a dig and only use it for comparisons. When comparing two cars I am tired of reading, "BUT from a roll this or that". It makes no sense. Either your car can hook and get down the track or it can't. Don't make up some new type of racing where you race from 30,40, 50 mph until someone gives up.
And about people being worried about breaking stuff like you mentioned, if you are worried about that DON'T race at all.
AND..... you mentioned racing from a roll on highways with TURNS... how you don't see that as rice is beyond me. That is almost how every "street racing" accident in the world happens.
To everything else... I see roll racing as being lame, period. It takes zero skill, talent, or brains. And what makes it rice is that people do it instead of from a dig and only use it for comparisons. When comparing two cars I am tired of reading, "BUT from a roll this or that". It makes no sense. Either your car can hook and get down the track or it can't. Don't make up some new type of racing where you race from 30,40, 50 mph until someone gives up.
And about people being worried about breaking stuff like you mentioned, if you are worried about that DON'T race at all.
AND..... you mentioned racing from a roll on highways with TURNS... how you don't see that as rice is beyond me. That is almost how every "street racing" accident in the world happens.
That post was a few posts ago.
I mean, I know auto cross guys who say drag racing on a drag strip is dumb because its just driving in a straight line. I see where you can say 'don't race at all'. But that isn't fair. Some people wish to race but they just do what they can. For instance, if we try in the ss/sc to hard launc, it can break our axles, as they're just plain out and on ASS, and for many this is only a hobby, and we can't all afford 400HP axles. So we either do a weak or medium launch, or just do, in my opinion, is the next best thing, go from a roll. I mean, different strokes for different folks. You may dislike roll racing and have a not so great opinion about it, but racing is racing none the less,a nd like others have said, circumstance. I'd like to meet another car at stop light, but I meet most of mine on the highway. Thats just how the cookie crumbles. A good number of movies on streetfire are from rolls, so it can't be that hated.
Now that you mention it, I doesn't really sound as I intended it to sound. Forget I said that. I thought the msota ccidents happened on account of not beign able to handle high speeds, and the driver losing control.
Listen dude, I see your point of view, and I admit, roll racing doens't take as much skill as drag racing, and drag not as much as Auto X. I think people do it just for the fun of it, and to me its not a necessarily bad way to prove what kind of top end a car has. I respect your opinion, but I just have my own beliefs.
P.S. I knwo Katie is going to read this and try to pick something out of it. Katie, just shut up, we don't care about your husband or your attempts at insults.
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I know, sorry again, had to do a bit of work then went to a baseball game.
Honestly, I don't mind when Auto-X guys talk **** about drag racing, AS LONG as they have actually built a FAST car with their own hands. Until you have built or helped built an 11 second or faster car, do not talk **** about drag racing, it is not the easiest thing to "just go straight".
Next point and I really mean no offense by this, but FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY if you can't afford to break stuff or because you bought a car that is easy to break, then this is not for you. I get revved at and paced ALL THE TIME on the freeway and I just ignore them or ask if they want to meet somewhere and go from a dig. If they don't, I roll up my window and go about my business. It's not that hard to do, most people that roll race are such idiots that if a grandpa in a minivan paces them and wants to go they will oblige even if there is traffic, passengers, bad weather, and/or turns. Basically what it comes down to, roll racing is more dangerous and all the "HIGH POINTS" of roll racing in reality are just EXCUSES to not race from a dig.
Also I am not too fond(I don't do it) of racing from TRAFFIC lights, keyword being traffic even if there is "NOBODY" around.
And turns really don't help at high speeds, especially for people that have never had any training.
Honestly, I try to stay mellow when it comes to discussing roll and dig racing and believe me I use to think from a roll was cool and all when I was younger, but I started hanging around fast guys 7-11 second STREET cars and 99.9% of them never race from a roll and instead of just saying it is LAME and STUPID (like I did, my apologies) they would explain it and give GOOD reasons as to why, like I am trying to do, I am still young though. Honestly I believe it all comes down to maturity and growing, hell there is like a 40 year old guy in town that ONLY races from a roll in his SRT-4 and it is never for money. Just talking to him you can see he is trying to fit in with the RICER crowd and is beyond immature, so most people completely avoid him. But yeah this turned out way too long.
In conclusion, I probably won't change your mind, maybe I will, but hopefully I change at least one person's.
Honestly, I don't mind when Auto-X guys talk **** about drag racing, AS LONG as they have actually built a FAST car with their own hands. Until you have built or helped built an 11 second or faster car, do not talk **** about drag racing, it is not the easiest thing to "just go straight".
Next point and I really mean no offense by this, but FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY if you can't afford to break stuff or because you bought a car that is easy to break, then this is not for you. I get revved at and paced ALL THE TIME on the freeway and I just ignore them or ask if they want to meet somewhere and go from a dig. If they don't, I roll up my window and go about my business. It's not that hard to do, most people that roll race are such idiots that if a grandpa in a minivan paces them and wants to go they will oblige even if there is traffic, passengers, bad weather, and/or turns. Basically what it comes down to, roll racing is more dangerous and all the "HIGH POINTS" of roll racing in reality are just EXCUSES to not race from a dig.
Also I am not too fond(I don't do it) of racing from TRAFFIC lights, keyword being traffic even if there is "NOBODY" around.
And turns really don't help at high speeds, especially for people that have never had any training.
Honestly, I try to stay mellow when it comes to discussing roll and dig racing and believe me I use to think from a roll was cool and all when I was younger, but I started hanging around fast guys 7-11 second STREET cars and 99.9% of them never race from a roll and instead of just saying it is LAME and STUPID (like I did, my apologies) they would explain it and give GOOD reasons as to why, like I am trying to do, I am still young though. Honestly I believe it all comes down to maturity and growing, hell there is like a 40 year old guy in town that ONLY races from a roll in his SRT-4 and it is never for money. Just talking to him you can see he is trying to fit in with the RICER crowd and is beyond immature, so most people completely avoid him. But yeah this turned out way too long.
In conclusion, I probably won't change your mind, maybe I will, but hopefully I change at least one person's.
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying and I don't think snake and I were sitting here trying to say roll racing was all that and a bag a chips. I can't speak for Snake but I know I would rather go to the track and race, but the track is a long drive for me and so sometimes I take the races I can get.
I agree 100% that if you can't afford to break something in your car don't play. You gotta pay to play and I feel bad for these guys with no money who are out breaking axles and stuff but they should have known better. I think because you may break something is no excuse to roll race though, that is pretty lame.
Like I said before I think roll racing is a good way to race cars and take the driver out of the equation. It would basically be like racing at the track and then comparing trap speed. I don't know maybe I'm way off base. lol
Well anyway, this threads calmed down alot and that's a good thing. Maybe you have seen that we aren't all douchebags that think our Cobalts are the fastest thing around. Then again maybe not.
*waits for Katie to come and tell us were idiots*
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I know, sorry again, had to do a bit of work then went to a baseball game.
Honestly, I don't mind when Auto-X guys talk **** about drag racing, AS LONG as they have actually built a FAST car with their own hands. Until you have built or helped built an 11 second or faster car, do not talk **** about drag racing, it is not the easiest thing to "just go straight".
Next point and I really mean no offense by this, but FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY if you can't afford to break stuff or because you bought a car that is easy to break, then this is not for you. I get revved at and paced ALL THE TIME on the freeway and I just ignore them or ask if they want to meet somewhere and go from a dig. If they don't, I roll up my window and go about my business. It's not that hard to do, most people that roll race are such idiots that if a grandpa in a minivan paces them and wants to go they will oblige even if there is traffic, passengers, bad weather, and/or turns. Basically what it comes down to, roll racing is more dangerous and all the "HIGH POINTS" of roll racing in reality are just EXCUSES to not race from a dig.
Also I am not too fond(I don't do it) of racing from TRAFFIC lights, keyword being traffic even if there is "NOBODY" around.
And turns really don't help at high speeds, especially for people that have never had any training.
Honestly, I try to stay mellow when it comes to discussing roll and dig racing and believe me I use to think from a roll was cool and all when I was younger, but I started hanging around fast guys 7-11 second STREET cars and 99.9% of them never race from a roll and instead of just saying it is LAME and STUPID (like I did, my apologies) they would explain it and give GOOD reasons as to why, like I am trying to do, I am still young though. Honestly I believe it all comes down to maturity and growing, hell there is like a 40 year old guy in town that ONLY races from a roll in his SRT-4 and it is never for money. Just talking to him you can see he is trying to fit in with the RICER crowd and is beyond immature, so most people completely avoid him. But yeah this turned out way too long.
In conclusion, I probably won't change your mind, maybe I will, but hopefully I change at least one person's.
Honestly, I don't mind when Auto-X guys talk **** about drag racing, AS LONG as they have actually built a FAST car with their own hands. Until you have built or helped built an 11 second or faster car, do not talk **** about drag racing, it is not the easiest thing to "just go straight".
Next point and I really mean no offense by this, but FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY if you can't afford to break stuff or because you bought a car that is easy to break, then this is not for you. I get revved at and paced ALL THE TIME on the freeway and I just ignore them or ask if they want to meet somewhere and go from a dig. If they don't, I roll up my window and go about my business. It's not that hard to do, most people that roll race are such idiots that if a grandpa in a minivan paces them and wants to go they will oblige even if there is traffic, passengers, bad weather, and/or turns. Basically what it comes down to, roll racing is more dangerous and all the "HIGH POINTS" of roll racing in reality are just EXCUSES to not race from a dig.
Also I am not too fond(I don't do it) of racing from TRAFFIC lights, keyword being traffic even if there is "NOBODY" around.
And turns really don't help at high speeds, especially for people that have never had any training.
Honestly, I try to stay mellow when it comes to discussing roll and dig racing and believe me I use to think from a roll was cool and all when I was younger, but I started hanging around fast guys 7-11 second STREET cars and 99.9% of them never race from a roll and instead of just saying it is LAME and STUPID (like I did, my apologies) they would explain it and give GOOD reasons as to why, like I am trying to do, I am still young though. Honestly I believe it all comes down to maturity and growing, hell there is like a 40 year old guy in town that ONLY races from a roll in his SRT-4 and it is never for money. Just talking to him you can see he is trying to fit in with the RICER crowd and is beyond immature, so most people completely avoid him. But yeah this turned out way too long.
In conclusion, I probably won't change your mind, maybe I will, but hopefully I change at least one person's.
Don't get me wrong, AutoX is my favorite and what I really want to do, Drag racing a close second. I just don't have enough experience, in my opinion, to auto cross, so I haven't done it yet. Not until I get enough experience will I do AutoX, until then, its dragging at the strip, and the occasional dig/roll race.
Now if you ONLY race from a roll like that guy in his SRT-4, then I think there is a problem with that.
Its not that I need to change my mind.....keep reading downwards about what I have to say, you'll see where I'm coming from \/
I actually agree with a lot of what you are saying and I don't think snake and I were sitting here trying to say roll racing was all that and a bag a chips. I can't speak for Snake but I know I would rather go to the track and race, but the track is a long drive for me and so sometimes I take the races I can get.
I agree 100% that if you can't afford to break something in your car don't play. You gotta pay to play and I feel bad for these guys with no money who are out breaking axles and stuff but they should have known better. I think because you may break something is no excuse to roll race though, that is pretty lame.
Like I said before I think roll racing is a good way to race cars and take the driver out of the equation. It would basically be like racing at the track and then comparing trap speed. I don't know maybe I'm way off base. lol
Well anyway, this threads calmed down alot and that's a good thing. Maybe you have seen that we aren't all douchebags that think our Cobalts are the fastest thing around. Then again maybe not.
*waits for Katie to come and tell us were idiots*
I agree 100% that if you can't afford to break something in your car don't play. You gotta pay to play and I feel bad for these guys with no money who are out breaking axles and stuff but they should have known better. I think because you may break something is no excuse to roll race though, that is pretty lame.
Like I said before I think roll racing is a good way to race cars and take the driver out of the equation. It would basically be like racing at the track and then comparing trap speed. I don't know maybe I'm way off base. lol
Well anyway, this threads calmed down alot and that's a good thing. Maybe you have seen that we aren't all douchebags that think our Cobalts are the fastest thing around. Then again maybe not.
*waits for Katie to come and tell us were idiots*
I agree with Dreamer, I don't think roll racing is bad. If the driver can simply go through the gears (though that in itself, can change the outcome), it shows what top end & pull the car has.
x2 on this thread calming down. We know the balts aren't ungodly fast and can't pwn everything on the street.
*knows katie will be here before long*
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roll racing although very dangerous can be pretty fun tho in a sense....when having a fast car i guess sumtimes u jus wanna let the bad boy run...but really havin a car doesnt automatically mean go out and race everything its jus the enjoyment of ur car...IMO i think track racing is one of the best forms of seeing a cars potential but thats jus my opinion but sometimes other people jus find different alternatives to proving the power of their car nothin wrong with that...but jus saying that ur car is automatically the best because u beat sumbody in a roll to me comes off as kinda stupid
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