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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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zzp catless with the welded in defouler pipe! its what i have and have never popped a p0420 in 25k miles, nor have i disabled any codes with hp tuners!
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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I don't see anywhere in his post where he's claiming that. Other than stating that the BadMab is made in China he said nothing else.

Also, not sure where the Turbo XS stuff is made, but if it's made in the USA, then I'm more likely to buy it, and I'll even pay more for it becuase I like to support the home team.
It's called being condescending in an indirect way. The way he's saying china and ebay makes it sound like he's saying it's cheap crap.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
It's called being condescending in an indirect way. The way he's saying china and ebay makes it sound like he's saying it's cheap crap.
I understand that, but I wouldn't disagree with him either.

China will steal someones hard work and use cheaper materials and labor to make it.

I guess Milk is the same in China as here too right? Same chemical... except for the fact that the Chinese have no problem putting a bunch of other stuff in there to make it look like they are producing more sickening tens of thousands of kids.

Tainted milk sickens more than 1,200 babies in China - USATODAY.com
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Turbo XS uses American steel and labor!
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
It's called being condescending in an indirect way. The way he's saying china and ebay makes it sound like he's saying it's cheap crap.
It's not cheap crap and it's not from China. I just don't have as much overhead as the other guys so I can pass down a better price. I just try not to to respond the other vendors because I don't want to get in an argument on the forums (that would look bad on everyone and it wouldn't be at all professional). And zzp's downpipes are on Ebay so that would make them cheap as well?

Thanks again for considering us. I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with any dp you choose.


-Brad
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by r1owner
I understand that, but I wouldn't disagree with him either.

China will steal someones hard work and use cheaper materials and labor to make it.

I guess Milk is the same in China as here too right? Same chemical... except for the fact that the Chinese have no problem putting a bunch of other stuff in there to make it look like they are producing more sickening tens of thousands of kids.

Tainted milk sickens more than 1,200 babies in China - USATODAY.com
I will and I do strongly disagree. Stealing someone's work, are you kidding me? It's a downpipe, who stole what from who? There are at least 5 companies that sell downpipes so who stole the idea?

Bringing up food preparation and sanitation from China leads me to believe you actually don't know what you're talking about. Milk is milk, but when you clearly stated they put something in there. That's it, not the same properties anymore. You added a chemical therefore that is tainted milk as you stated.

To each their own, I'm not putting TTR down.

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It's not cheap crap and it's not from China. I just don't have as much overhead as the other guys so I can pass down a better price. I just try not to to respond the other vendors because I don't want to get in an argument on the forums (that would look bad on everyone and it wouldn't be at all professional). And zzp's downpipes are on Ebay so that would make them cheap as well?

Thanks again for considering us. I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied with any dp you choose.


-Brad

Exactly. I never knew zzp sold cheap stuff from china. It has to be cheap and from china it's on ebay.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastgti69
I will and I do strongly disagree. Stealing someone's work, are you kidding me? It's a downpipe, who stole what from who? There are at least 5 companies that sell downpipes so who stole the idea?

Bringing up food preparation and sanitation from China leads me to believe you actually don't know what you're talking about. Milk is milk, but when you clearly stated they put something in there. That's it, not the same properties anymore. You added a chemical therefore that is tainted milk as you stated.
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I'm talking about design and patents... those are all dirty words in China. Someone R&D's something and China steals it. Then they turn around and sell that same product back here without any of those overhead costs.

They also have strict limits on certain items they can import here, so they stack all their warehouses with boxes that say made in Taiwan so they can get around the import taxes... they don't play fair.

And yes... when I go to the store to buy something labeled as Milk, that's what I expect to get... the point I was trying to illustrate was that they can put whatever label they want on it. That doesn't mean it's the same material. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. In the case of something labeled Milk, I certainly know its not.
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