QFT

The TC suspension isnt too bad. I think it feels firm, yet nice.

 

Well if I get the cobalt will I expect problems soon? Like the general consensus thinks domestics have?

 

Getting back to the ECU reflash thing for a minute. Read in your owners manual (09 at least) page 7-17.

 

Heres my take on this. I'm sure you will be very happy with your cobalt. Every car out there has quirks about it. Some more than others or there will be something you don't like about the car. I say get and enjoy because I know you will

 

How much money would it take to beat a STI?

 

no more than a 1000 for sure

 

Wow really? How much to beat my camaro? I would bet I am putting 320rwhp to the floor without a tune at the very least.

 

Tune downpipe 1000 bucks

The STi will still rip you bad out of the hole though, and the STi gets really mean with upgrades too

 

Thats what I mean how much would it take to beat the STI from a dig too? Or atleast be even.

 

AWD>FWD youll never be able to hook a 1.8 60 foot like an STi

 

DRs and a good driver and you can get 1.7 60 ft times with a fwd car. Oh, and stiffer rear spring to help prevent the front from lifting up.

 

ur better off going from a roll.

From a dig most sti's make low 12's with just a tune and bolt ons.

 

camaros are ~3000-3400 LBS, depending on the car, cobalts are ~2900LBS for the SS/TC, the SS/TC with a tune makes 315WHP and 335 lb ft, so it depends on the gearing and traction really, and how much torque the camaro makes, as HP is only good for top speed past a certain point.

 

Yes from a dig You will never take an STI..........from a 40 roll stock for stock, I took one by half a car. They may be beasts but they lose so much through the AWD. Thats the only thing the WRX (and evo for that matter) have going for them. Make the SS/TC an AWD, give it 315hp and you have STI....lol

 

Damn I really dislike FWD but I want a new car. I cant afford a new STI though so ****. And the Cobalt is a bad ass lil car.

 

hands down the ss/tc is the best car for under 25k

I love getting that little smile from people who think they are going to walk all over me..

than seeing the frown as i pass them by

 

How does a Cobalt SS handle compare to a 2003 350Z? And how is the grip?

 

2003 350Z's are kind of dogs. I used to destroy them in my stage 2 balt. Honestly if u want a solid fun FWD tuner for 25k and under I will list them and the pros and cons:

MS3

pros:
fun out of the box
lots of power
very nice interior
aftermarket available
good in corners
direct injected

cons:
crappy rods
big power = internals and turbo swap
boring looking exterior
hard to make tons of power as the after market is somewhat limited

SS/TC

pros:
good power to weight
great in corners
spool time is minimal ( small dual scroll TC )
direct injected
turbo upgrades are available
nice looking exterior

cons:
fuel system is limited
interior is chincey
not sure how much power can be made safely
big numbers havent been made yet
stock tc is small

Caliber SRT4

pros:
solid tranny, engine, clutch and internals
big turbo stock
6 speed
creature comforts
versatility and good snow driver
is capable and has made big numbers

cons:
ugly ( an acquired taste )
bad in corners
PCM is a ****
interior is chincey
stock performance is OK

It all really depends on what u want out of ur car. U want a good drag car, the CSRT4 is ur animal. U want an awsome overall performer that looks nice, and will be fun to drive the SS/TC is ur car. If u want a refined interior with gobs of TQ to boot and an equally performing twisty driver the MS3 is ur beast.

 

The fuel system is not as limited as you may think.....Its direct injected, the only need is a aftermarket fuel pump.

Its too new, Time will tell soon.........The LNF is a tough engine, I am sure High Numbers can be made, and as with most cars internal will be needed to produce high numbers. I'm sure the LNF can make over 400 easily with s bigger turbo, internals, and a sick tune...

 

That was an unbiased comparison as best I could.

I do remember talking with someone and them commenting on how the biggest problems with making big numbers was fueling issues.

Overall, I think its pretty accurate thus far.

 

pretty much...... the fuel system is an easy fix

 

Lets say intake exhaust and a tune how much HP would I be putting out then?

 

depends

u can expect around 300 hp and 330ish wtq

 

I thought with just a tune you can get that much?

 

You can get 310 easily out of a tune, adding a CAI and exhaust, maybe add 10-20hp

Just depends