Explain why you're confused then. If people choose to buy the car it's there choice. Do you or do you not think people are wasting money if the get a TC balt, because in your OP you stated that you can get a stage 2 LSJ and not need the TC.

 

yeah

 

Why an LNF?



exactly.

 

hahaha!!!

/thread.

 

that is no opinion. I believe a ? is a question.

 

I turned your question into a rhetorical one, and made that my point.

 

well this is how i feel we need to stop wondering about the new cobalt until that ****** comes out so that we can know how much it will cost......whatever im tired for me its either the new cobalt or the new camaro if i can convince my dad to split the cost somewhat lol. But a cool feature of the new one is definatly Traction Control.

 

I was not putting anyone down for their choosing of the tc/ss. i was only asking them why. as the orginal post asked. It seems like every time a post is started, it all ways turns to a negative thread.

 

My question still remains: Do you HONESTLY need more than 260lb-tq on a car weighing only 2950lbs? Seriously. IF you go any higher, will there not be some severe wheel-hop problems? This car has the same tranny as the SS S/C (i think) so basically this is an already modded out SS S/C for about the same price. Sounds like a steal for me. Anyhow, I plan on getting one and doing some major badass cosmetic upgrades to it before I even worry about the engine.

 

I am sure that GM is gonna be upgrading the transmission at least a little bit.

My reasoning is, why in the hell would GM offer the stage kit for the LNF? I mean they said it puts down 290hp and 310 torque. That would be well over the limits of the tranny, and I am sure would cause some major problems.

My guess is that GM is gonna put in a heavy duty clutch and possibly strengthen the input/output shafts.

 

The LNF would have been awesome if they didn't use that bullshit D/I

 

 

so i take it your scared of new technology?

 

How is new technology a bad thing? lol just becuase its not easily modified now doesn't mean its "bullshit."

 

Why an LNF? Why ask this in the first place. Chevy already announced that the 2.0 SC can't meet the new Government Emissions requirements. That is what killed the LSJ as a production engine. So Chevy wants to keep the Cobalt enthusiasts happy and decides to use the LNF -- what's wrong with that?

Yea, the SC is a neat engine, a little different than all the 4 banger turbos -- Chevy just has to move on. Buy an LNF Cobalt if it "strikes your fancy". If I'm at a show and a cobalt with an LNF shows up I'm not going to tell them to get lost because it's not an LSJ!

 

Incorrect. One half of a compressor map is solely pressure.

Two different compressors at 10psi are moving the exact same amount of air on the same engine.

Its makes it more difficult for the aftermarket to pledge support behind it. Try buying upgraded fuel injectors for a Direct Injection engine and you'll see what I mean.

They use the same transmission obviously so either car would need to upgrade if they wanted assurance from broken parts.

However, rated torque capability and real world figures can vary drastically.

 

this is true, but will also be a modding nightmare, especially with regards to warranty which so many members are worried about losing. put an intake and something goes wrong, i can totally see the dealers saying "Well you put the car over it's max. power ratings, so there's nothing we can do." I would also predict no aftermarket support from GM for that reason.

 

I'll try and get some videos today of my 2.4L SS Turbo when i go out and try and fix my coolant issue.

 

No one is scared of new DI, the aftermarket companies just don't want to take the time and effort to **** with it. After the LNF being out for 2+ years and being able to count all of the aftermarket support on one hand, it's quite obvious there's no rush from the aftermarket to develop stuff for it.

 

the only reason i am considering buying a new ss/ts is because i couldn't afford an ss before, but now my financial status is a lot better so i want to buy a new ss/tc, if they still made the ss/sc i would buy that

 

From everything i've read they have an extremely low idc from the factory and could only need possibly a upgraded pump. Hopefully the more cars that come out with the lnf the more companies will look into developing some of the DI stuff for these cars. GM's made 500hp versions of the LNF, granted i know thats GM they designed it as well have an endless bankroll, but it still shows that these fuel systems are upgradeable.

 

well idk but i'll be playing it smart. wait till about 1 yr from now to see if there have been any trannys fucked up, aftermarket support (though i doubt it will come any time soon), some real dyno numbers. then maybe i'll consider one. till then i have time to learn manual. if the new ss comes out to be a dud then i'll get a used 07 ss/sc from all you guys that sell urs on a side note i don't think anyone that has the ss/sc should trade-in for the 08s unless you just want something new.

 

agreed

 

06's have a 6/60,000 powertrain warranty , the 36,000 mile warranty is the bumper to bumper which is the same on the 08's. The only difference is the 07's and up have a 6/100,000 mile powertrain warranty.

Actually even the 05 SS/SC's have a 6/60K powertrain warranty.