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2010 Cobalt SS/TC Stage 1 test drive!

Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:17 AM
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Its understandable. But see where people are failing to realize is that GM has to make a tune that is suitable for all states emissions wise and the ability not to blow up the car. I am not a hard core all racer and I use my car for a DD so the stage kit gives me more hp and tq and keeping my warranty intact. Dealers probably cant detect the hidden tune but if something serious happens and need a new turbo or engine the first thing they do is dissect the pcm.
Understandable. That is the reason I have a mild tune really. All I have is the Trifecta tune and the muffler delete and thats the numbers I put down. I have had the tune on now for 5,000 miles no trouble. Its all in how you drive it really. What I am saying though is since GM is pushing 23 PSI and I am pushing 22 and making more hp than the GM tune will you can see the bigger picture. Their tune is not the greatest safety is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by L.P.
Understandable. That is the reason I have a mild tune really. All I have is the Trifecta tune and the muffler delete and thats the numbers I put down. I have had the tune on now for 5,000 miles no trouble. Its all in how you drive it really. What I am saying though is since GM is pushing 23 PSI and I am pushing 22 and making more hp than the GM tune will you can see the bigger picture. Their tune is not the greatest safety is in the eye of the beholder.
Its all in the tune. Who knows the tune better than GM engineers who created the car. GMs tune peaks at 23 it doesnt hold it. However Bill explained to us how it all works its all in the efficiency of the turbo. I dont want to say how it is because I may say it wrong and make myself look like a fool! But having 280hp at 4700 is pretty impressive. The only way to change peoples minds is for them to drive it with the stage kit its self.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Ok... i dont understand why its so hard for people to understand that the SAME people who designed the learn down in the first place, have removed it... i mean, boost is a measurement of restriction(if the air is getting in and out of the motor faster it wouldent be able to make pressure)so if you upgrade exhaust/intake, your going to make more power on the same level of boost... its not rocket science here.

One question,is this kit available to buy for the 08/09 SS, or only the 10 model? I wondered if maybe the whole ECU is different in the 10 or something.... why does everyone keep saying there trading there car in for the 10...?
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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One question,is this kit available to buy for the 08/09 SS, or only the 10 model? I wondered if maybe the whole ECU is different in the 10 or something.... why does everyone keep saying there trading there car in for the 10...?
Kiit is for all 2008, 2009 & 2010 LNF (Turbo Powered) Cobalts

Originally Posted by 80vetteL82
Hey Bill....have you ever wanted to visit Boston...**cough cough** haha I want the Stage 1 experience too! lol
It is a little far for me to drive in a coupe of hours.



Bill, will a "free'r" flowing intake and exhaust added to the Stage 1 void the warranty?
The only warranty issue I have ever heard of with with an intake is Mass Airflow Sensors being damaged due to over oiled K & N filters. So in general adding a intake will not void the warranty.
(I don't want to turn this thread into a K& N argument thread. They are oiled properly from the factory but when the end user cleans them and re-oils them, a lot use way too much oil and that plays havac with the MAS)

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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by More_Torque_More_HP
Kiit is for all 2008, 2009 & 2010 LNF (Turbo Powered) Cobalts



It is a little far for me to drive in a coupe of hours.





The only warranty issue I have ever heard of with with an intake is Mass Airflow Sensors being damaged due to over oiled K & N filters. So in general adding a intake will not void the warranty.
(I don't want to turn this thread into a K& N argument thread. They are oiled properly from the factory but when the end user cleans them and re-oils them, a lot use way too much oil and that plays havac with the MAS)

Oh come on, its a great city! haha jk I know Ill just have to wait until I can buy my own.

Thanks for answering the intake question, I know youre probably sick of all the warranty questions. Once again, thanks for coming on here and humoring all of us...its great to have someone like you answering our endless amount of questions
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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with Bill floating on these forums, I would be scared about him reading all of the posts about "undetectable tunes"
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
with Bill floating on these forums, I would be scared about him reading all of the posts about "undetectable tunes"
I don't care about undectable tunes. I am not the warranty police. I am here to support and help the tuner market.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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some people want to stay completely stock or with the GMPP upgrades only. So stop comparing that to other tunes. Of course there will be aftermarket tunes that are better big deal they dont belong in this thread.

Why would bill be here to try and turn people in? 1. he doesnt know your name, 2. your car vin 3. where you live. He has openly expressed that he enjoys seeing the afterk market products at the CED meets. Just be glad you didnt buy a evo
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by northvibe
some people want to stay completely stock or with the GMPP upgrades only. So stop comparing that to other tunes. Of course there will be aftermarket tunes that are better big deal they dont belong in this thread.

Why would bill be here to try and turn people in? 1. he doesnt know your name, 2. your car vin 3. where you live. He has openly expressed that he enjoys seeing the afterk market products at the CED meets. Just be glad you didnt buy a evo
X2 Bill is here to help us GMPP lovers! Any anyone else that needs it!
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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I know what I'm asking for come christmas time.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I know what I'm asking for come christmas time.
Are you going to be willing to sit on Santas' lap for it?
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
Are you going to be willing to sit on Bill's lap for it?
Fixed
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Thank God I've already got my "HARD" parts. All I need is the calibration.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
Are you going to be willing to sit on CARBs lap for it?
double fixed
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
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Careful there. My name's Bill too!
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
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Yeah no ****! CARB needs to get done with it already!
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
with Bill floating on these forums, I would be scared about him reading all of the posts about "undetectable tunes"
People can read our posts and see other site information whether or not they're members on this site.

Check out the "who's online" page. We usually have a number of unregistered people that is about half or more the number of total members online at any one time.

It's the one you don't see that'll get you...











Now that I've made you completely paranoid , don't worry about it. Just PM or something when you need to send personal info and you'll be fine. Personally I don't care whether people know who I am or not. Heck, I've got pics of my car with the license plates on it. If somebody really wanted to figure it out, they could regardless. The thing is that it isn't worth it to a company to do all of that for just warranty stuff for one car.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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I have been offered trifecta, hptuners... I'm still getting the GM stage kit.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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any updates?
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Its sunday! No update yo!
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by buellfooll
Careful there. My name's Bill too!

Mine TOO lol. It's weird seeing that name everywhere and not thinking it's you.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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i am super psyched for this. i ordered the hard parts, should be picking them up in the states monday. there's no F'in way im paying 1100 for it here when 100kms away its 550. lol. speed it up CARB, i wanna experience this power.
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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I have been offered trifecta, hptuners... I'm still getting the GM stage kit.
ur quite the trooper lol
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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where the **** is the GM reflash?
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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where the **** is the GM reflash?
Still with CARB. Once GM gets it back it should be released!
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