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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:20 AM
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Yeah, Vince has even spent time with me early on Saturday mornings and offered to do Sunday mornings to help get some of my customers up-to-speed.

We'd do real-time logging and tuning. Basically we'd take a log, I'd sent it to him via my phone, he'd shoot another tune back, reflash, and repeat through that morning until we got everything how the customer wanted.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 02:53 AM
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i had vince tune mine last week. the first tune the car no matter what wouldn't boost over 19 psi on a hard pull. he and i kept in communication all week and i sent numerous datalogs and he sent well over 6 tunes to me to re- flash my car as the late model 2010's had and extra boost block as he put it that he had to get around but by the end of this whole thing even after business hours he still sent me more tunes and as of now my car pulls hard as hell holding 22.5 psi which is exactly where i wanna be. ultimately vince went beyond what he needed to do to uphold his reputation and i have no complaints.

there a good experience for ya
man, i completely agree with you. many a times vince has stayed a extra hour or so past his work schedule to help me get my car workin right. its been a little over a year since i been boosted and i finally go this thing to where i wanted it to be and he has been patient with me thru each step of the way helpin me solve issues that ive had wit the car. i couldnt ask for anything more from a tuner (this is my first car ive ever had get tuned).
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
One of the most respected lnf tuners. ROFLMFAO. HAHAHA. Please.
Lil foster says he wasn't warned his motor would blow, Im inclined to believe him .
Like I said, if he were a responsible tuner he would not give the customer something that blew their motor, even if it meant losing that customer, so be it. I wouldn't want my name smeared on that piston, sorry.
I'll take an hpt tune from a real tuner.
Some people want the tune to be that agressive but in his case the car would have made just as much power on 24 psi (a little less peak torque) and it likely would have lasted longer. Although the OP may have been driving it most of the time in stock tune mode because he has a dual tune. Maybe the OP beats on his car because 2 engines in less than a year is just crazy. I never tune above ~24 psi on the stock turbo except if the customer is running a E-85 mix in the car.
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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first off sorry to hear about your motor, and deff good luck with the build! i want ppics like everyone else! lol

idk what exactly infiboost tunes are or how they are different from the stealth/selectable tunes. but i am getting a 22psi stealth tune. has anyone had any problems with on the these tunes? im purpusly keeping it a little lower the the max to hopefully stay on the safe side.

should i be ok with 22psi?
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbalt2010
first off sorry to hear about your motor, and deff good luck with the build! i want ppics like everyone else! lol

idk what exactly infiboost tunes are or how they are different from the stealth/selectable tunes. but i am getting a 22psi stealth tune. has anyone had any problems with on the these tunes? im purpusly keeping it a little lower the the max to hopefully stay on the safe side.

should i be ok with 22psi?
Yes you will be fine with 22psi i wouldnt go much higher from my past experience lol. if i can figure out how to upload these pics of my melted piston i will lo

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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05slowline=forum douche bag!
U act like a complete kno it all, but ur attitude tells a different story. Why don't u take ur comments and remarks to a redline forum or sabb forum? Fyi it doesn't matter who or what software u use to tune a car past it's factory settings ur taking huge risks! Vince from trifecta definitely knows what he is doin as far as tuning goes. That's his business and way of income. And hey *******, haven't u ever heard that the customer is ALWAYS right?! As far as I can tell ur a ******* internet troll.....seems like ur the retard that has no idea wtf ur talking about just starting problems cuz ur a lonely douche bag who get off on css or other forums. Here's an idea GFY!
On another note, sorry to hear about ur engine dude. U really should have known better to run that high of boost on an almost stock car with factory internals. Boost creates heat and wear...fast! But its awsome ur in good sports about it and not pointing fingers or crying about it. I blame this on human error due to ur need for mo powah lol. Good luck with ur build just do it right and cut no corners in doing so. Go with a new pte turbo oil cooled only. I love my pte6262sp
Vince from trifecta is a great dude and an awsome tuner he definitely knows what he is doing, hell he tuned/is still tuning my car and its a ******* monster. TRIFECTA FTW!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bykryder83
05slowline=forum douche bag!
U act like a complete kno it all, but ur attitude tells a different story. Why don't u take ur comments and remarks to a redline forum or sabb forum? Fyi it doesn't matter who or what software u use to tune a car past it's factory settings ur taking huge risks! Vince from trifecta definitely knows what he is doin as far as tuning goes. That's his business and way of income. And hey *******, haven't u ever heard that the customer is ALWAYS right?! As far as I can tell ur a ******* internet troll.....seems like ur the retard that has no idea wtf ur talking about just starting problems cuz ur a lonely douche bag who get off on css or other forums. Here's an idea GFY!
On another note, sorry to hear about ur engine dude. U really should have known better to run that high of boost on an almost stock car with factory internals. Boost creates heat and wear...fast! But its awsome ur in good sports about it and not pointing fingers or crying about it. I blame this on human error due to ur need for mo powah lol. Good luck with ur build just do it right and cut no corners in doing so. Go with a new pte turbo oil cooled only. I love my pte6262sp
Vince from trifecta is a great dude and an awsome tuner he definitely knows what he is doing, hell he tuned/is still tuning my car and its a ******* monster. TRIFECTA FTW!!!
i still wanna see your car in action. hows the spooling with that 6262?
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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She is put up for the winter, going to get her cage hopefully inna week or 2.
And im currently building a transmission in my living room from 3 different gm transmissions lmao!
It starts spooling around 2500-3000rpm and all the way up im sure ill see ya at some meets next year!
and these forums are to help ppl and discuss our cars, and share our info and knowledge. Not talk continuous crap! I kno that im always willing to help ppl or share my knowledge. I guess some ppl like 05slowline are just too immature or have too much time on their hands....
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Ive tuned 5 2010's now and have yet to see this magic boost block..
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Ive tuned 5 2010's now and have yet to see this magic boost block..
im just going off what he told me. just give him a call and ask him bout kyle from maryland and the boost issue not wanting to go past 19 psi. i'm sure he will be able to explain it to you
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bykryder83
She is put up for the winter, going to get her cage hopefully inna week or 2.
And im currently building a transmission in my living room from 3 different gm transmissions lmao!
It starts spooling around 2500-3000rpm and all the way up im sure ill see ya at some meets next year!
and these forums are to help ppl and discuss our cars, and share our info and knowledge. Not talk continuous crap! I kno that im always willing to help ppl or share my knowledge. I guess some ppl like 05slowline are just too immature or have too much time on their hands....
nice sounds like you got a all out drag car coming along lol. ill try to hit up some meets. might have to be early next year to last next . glad to hear the 6262 is workin for ya, i didnt know if it was too big or not
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by fosterSS
Yes the dealer that downloaded the tune on my pcm, prior to installing the tune we did 6 data logs. Under a load in like 5th gear at like 40 it would max out my boost gauge at 30 lbs
Damn!!
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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If you were actually a part of this whole situation (tuner, car owner, dealer) then maybe you'd be credible... but since you're sitting out in "everywhere" that's enough for me to see that you're just here to bust ***** which is no good for anyone. I've already stated, and it's been proven time and time again, the cars that have blown up on Trifecta tunes are one (if not both) of the scenarios I described. Far as your list of HPT guys who've blown up that you want... good luck having people "man up" and admit that they blew their motor/caused damage to their car though their "own tune". Many people are out there are too proud to admit anything has gone wrong... hell if they did how would they sell their tunes to other potential customers? I'm in no way, shape or form saying this is the case for all HPT guys because I'll be the first one out there to say there are plenty of knowledgeable guys who use HPT, but to label all infiniboost tunes into a sweeping generalization of "they're all crap/this guy is an 'ass'" is just plain ignorant. I guarantee there are a fraction of the cars out there that are tuned by HPT compared to Trifecta, yet when someone on here blows up on a Trifecta tune people go out of their way and make an ass of themselves by trying to rip apart Trifecta. Trifecta's track record speaks for itself; there are countless tunes out there from LNF's to LS3's and everything in between in which their owners will praise Trifecta for what Vince has been able to do with their cars and they are safe tunes. If you decide to go and push the envelope, then that's your own choice and it has its consequences. Responsibility is bestowed upon the car owner when they have been properly warned of what can happen and ask for the most aggressive tune possible, and I can guarantee you that was done. After that, the ball's in your court... and you need to accept the consequences of your actions.
I have to agree with you. I knew a guy that had a tune to 21psi, and blew the engine after 5000 miles because he would pull every gear to the red. I have a good friend of mine that has a trifecta to 24psi for about 20k miles now, and his car sounds and runs like a swiss watch. In fact, to the list of causes that you made, I would also add: 3) the way the car is driven
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyle4236
im just going off what he told me. just give him a call and ask him bout kyle from maryland and the boost issue not wanting to go past 19 psi. i'm sure he will be able to explain it to you
There is an issue with that one car or the tune itself. The 2010s (I have also tuned 5 now) are different in a few areas on the cam tables and MALT table and have greater timing resolution but there is no boost block on them that limits boost to 19 psi.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bykryder83
She is put up for the winter, going to get her cage hopefully inna week or 2.
And im currently building a transmission in my living room from 3 different gm transmissions lmao!
It starts spooling around 2500-3000rpm and all the way up im sure ill see ya at some meets next year!
and these forums are to help ppl and discuss our cars, and share our info and knowledge. Not talk continuous crap! I kno that im always willing to help ppl or share my knowledge. I guess some ppl like 05slowline are just too immature or have too much time on their hands....
You have your engine built? I've ordered the kit with the 55/57 because I thought the 58/57 or the 62/62 would spool too high, maybe I made a mistake
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AyrtonSenna
You have your engine built? I've ordered the kit with the 55/57 because I thought the 58/57 or the 62/62 would spool too high, maybe I made a mistake
The 5557 and 5857 will spool right on top of each other. They have the same back side, but you are still getting a good turbo. The 5557 should be able to hit around 500whp where the 5857 has the potential to hi 600+whp on this car.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
There is an issue with that one car or the tune itself. The 2010s (I have also tuned 5 now) are different in a few areas on the cam tables and MALT table and have greater timing resolution but there is no boost block on them that limits boost to 19 psi.
ive heard the the 2010's do have a boost block in the cold weather. meaning if you boosting 24 psi in the summer the car will boost block in the winter to keep you at the same horsepower, that being roughly 19 psi.

i heard this from a very reliable person. not going to mention names or anything, if he wants to come out himself then so be it.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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it's not a block as much as it's a temp regulation.. so under certain temps it'll use less boost to make the same power.. as like everyone knows.. colder air= denser air= more power = less need for boost.. this is something that is on the cruzes .. temp driven boost its like a quasi learn down cept the car is still making the same power it was at 23
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
it's not a block as much as it's a temp regulation.. so under certain temps it'll use less boost to make the same power.. as like everyone knows.. colder air= denser air= more power = less need for boost.. this is something that is on the cruzes .. temp driven boost its like a quasi learn down cept the car is still making the same power it was at 23
well said! lol
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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meh. people need to take responsibility for their own actions... vince made a strong tune. someoen bought the strong tune... i'm new to this game but even i know after doing a bit of research myself that 28psi is too much for this motor. i don't need vince to tell me himself. the OP was asking for problems by requesting such a tune. end of story. that's like blaming hennessey or lingenfelter for making a 1,200hp twin turbo viper or vette and then the owner comes back and says hey man ... you gave me too much horsepower and i couldn't drive the car safely on the road because it's too aggresive and I crashed it... it's all your fault! haha riiiiiiiiiiight.

as for the people debating the fact that you have to pay to play... it's true... just because you're paying big bucks doesn't mean you are making something reliable... but by boosting horsepower or changing a setup you are trying to make a car do something it wasn't intentionaly designed to do. more power = more chance of breaking things. it's simple physics. you can have something built with the best parts money can buy... it will still fail eventually when pushed to it's limits.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
meh. people need to take responsibility for their own actions... vince made a strong tune. someoen bought the strong tune... i'm new to this game but even i know after doing a bit of research myself that 28psi is too much for this motor. i don't need vince to tell me himself. the OP was asking for problems by requesting such a tune. end of story. that's like blaming hennessey or lingenfelter for making a 1,200hp twin turbo viper or vette and then the owner comes back and says hey man ... you gave me too much horsepower and i couldn't drive the car safely on the road because it's too aggresive and I crashed it... it's all your fault! haha riiiiiiiiiiight.

as for the people debating the fact that you have to pay to play... it's true... just because you're paying big bucks doesn't mean you are making something reliable... but by boosting horsepower or changing a setup you are trying to make a car do something it wasn't intentionaly designed to do. more power = more chance of breaking things. it's simple physics. you can have something built with the best parts money can buy... it will still fail eventually when pushed to it's limits.

You fall into the 50% of this site that "gets it" ...... the other half think GM is supposed to sponsor their racing career or modding hobby . Or because the goverment bailed GM out ....they are owed a new motor after melting the piston's ...lol
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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You fall into the 50% of this site that "gets it" ...... the other half think GM is supposed to sponsor their racing career or modding hobby . Or because the goverment bailed GM out ....they are owed a new motor after melting the piston's ...lol
**** our tax dollars bought and paid for them these past 2 years, and with the amount of money I pay in taxes each year, the least they can do is fix my car when I kill it. I'll just pull up to the White House motor pool garage and tell them to fix it.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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ive been a distributor for vince for some time. I have run the TF tune for over a year. Also I run the TF+HP tune. I blew a motor. was is TF's fault... no was it a tuner problem? No.... My fuel rail cracked..... So yeah it was my fault. You have to pay to play.

For the ignorant crowd:

Inifiniboost is just raising the learn down to an unreachable level..... Vince is just like any tuner. He just happens to tune more cars than any person on this site.
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:18 PM
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The 6262sp works awsome for me and where I have my limiter set. Im hoping it nets me right around 650-750 whp, I live 15 min from precision turbo and had this one made specifically for me and my setup. Hell my idle is set at 1500rpm lol. A 5757 will be more than enough for 95% of ppl on here. But to be honest I almost went with the 6767
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