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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:32 PM
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Man that almost makes me want to help other people and get paid a little. But it is a hell of a job
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
return air fare you find the compressor I bring the rest lol
Still a good deal... Lol


And what o rungs were you talking about that you oiled up and it worked like a charm again. I was thinking about the CRC spray... Don't think I'd feel comfortable doing the walnuts myself
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Old May 12, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Still a good deal... Lol


And what o rungs were you talking about that you oiled up and it worked like a charm again. I was thinking about the CRC spray... Don't think I'd feel comfortable doing the walnuts myself
Putting chemicals in the induction system has a risk. detonation on the fluid, damage to the pistons and rings, and in the case of a DI engine, neglible benefit or effect on the valve stem.

walnut blastng is a walk in the park compared to rebuilding a damaged engine
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Old May 12, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
Putting chemicals in the induction system has a risk. detonation on the fluid, damage to the pistons and rings, and in the case of a DI engine, neglible benefit or effect on the valve stem.

walnut blastng is a walk in the park compared to rebuilding a damaged engine
I would be more worried about a chunk falling into the cylinder and having its way. I really need to walnut blast my valves found out this weekend the previous owner did not (or at least the apperance of the intake runner made it look that way. Not super bad, just black build up on the walls.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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I would be more worried about a chunk falling into the cylinder and having its way. I really need to walnut blast my valves found out this weekend the previous owner did not (or at least the apperance of the intake runner made it look that way. Not super bad, just black build up on the walls.
Exactly my thought
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Old May 12, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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You might think you "need" your weekends but I'm willing to bet you couldn't live without your car.

Typical SS owner mentality

Time for me to walnut blast valves from start to finish. Under 3 hours. If I wasn't drinking it could have been under 2 easily.
Nah, its not typical at all. I live in a apartment complex, on the third floor. Try taking a jack down and up the stairs when you need work on your car. Also, don't forget your tools or if you need an extra part/tool...well the car that is your daily is in pieces, so going to your local tool shop won't happen. There are no outlets outside of the complex and not enough cord to run a cable from my car to my apartment.

Let's scratch that one idea from the table. I do have a friend with some of the equipment, just the air gun. Lets say we do this job together. This will take our whole weekend and sometimes we work weekends. I want to use the weekend he is most available to work on my girlfriends car's rust spot. If I had 2 days off, I would do it myself, but no availability. Also, neither of us ever did this before. Too much going on and I don't want to mess up the car.

Honestly, for what I'm doing...it would be a $600 for me to do it myself either way.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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I would be more worried about a chunk falling into the cylinder and having its way. I really need to walnut blast my valves found out this weekend the previous owner did not (or at least the apperance of the intake runner made it look that way. Not super bad, just black build up on the walls.
Read the how to a million times. Do your due diligence. I was more than a novice. Its really freaking obvious when the ports are open or closed. You can see the open valves by the excess clean valve stem.

I had a helper. And by helper I mean a dad that watched over my shoulder. This is not rocket science. All info is in the intake removal and cleaning threads as well as this one.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:32 PM
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Read the how to a million times. Do your due diligence. I was more than a novice. Its really freaking obvious when the ports are open or closed. You can see the open valves by the excess clean valve stem.

I had a helper. And by helper I mean a dad that watched over my shoulder. This is not rocket science. All info is in the intake removal and cleaning threads as well as this one.
I just have to buy the gun and all the gaskets, pcv valve, thinking about installing pwerks im spacer also.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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if you want to know if the valves are closed in an easy and safe way squirt some carb cleaner in the port, if it's closed the cleaner will pool up
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Old May 13, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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meh. its so not complicated. take spark plugs out. pistons up /valves closed/look at valve.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 09:39 PM
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If anyone in the NW region needs help with this let me know and we can use my stuff, you just bring the beer and pay for supplies.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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^^^^^ thats an offer
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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:17 PM
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I'm lucky I live as close to John as I do, very happy He did the walnut blast on my car. Car feels like new again
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Old May 13, 2014 | 10:19 PM
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^^^^ ur car came out nice...well looked after
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Old May 14, 2014 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wired
If anyone in the NW region needs help with this let me know and we can use my stuff, you just bring the beer and pay for supplies.
Oh shoot, for real dude? I'm about to take you up on that right now haha. Where you at?
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Old May 14, 2014 | 03:51 AM
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:18 AM
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i would say based on what I do its sort of an all day job. It actually takes about an hour to pull the manifold and then half an hour to prep everything. The actual blasting and vaccuuming takes about 45 mins to an hour depending on the build up. 10-15 minutes a port. Then another hour to strip the pcv out of the manifold and clean it thoroughly, then remove the stuff that is protecting the engine.
we are at 3 hours or so. Now replace the manifold change the oil and filter ( filter while the mani is off as its easy, put the spark plugs back in etc... another good hour...

so add 30 minutes to clean the equipment, put the walnuts away, sweep and vacuum the shop and road test the vehicle .

I charge 600 including pcv, new mani gasket, oil and filter.... so you can prolly fit something else in to do but the day is about shot anyway after all that.

Is it best to just replace the pcv with a new one. Where they are only like $5 ? Or can they be taken out of the manifold and be cleaned up and put back in to re-use ?? I just bought a 50lbs bag of walnut blast and a media blasting gun. As well I have the intake mani gasket. So im getting ready to do this myself also very soon. I was really wondering if a new pcv is in order or if i can just clean and reuse the old one.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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I am finding the gunk k must screw them up. Like u say cheap to buy. I would replace not clean. Use a 1/4 drive extension angled through the TB opening to tap out and a 3/8 extension as a drift to install new lithely lube the o ring to avoid cutting the o ring during install good luck with it. My 12 inch long extension pipes for the blast gun make it easier for m.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
I am finding the gunk k must screw them up. Like u say cheap to buy. I would replace not clean. Use a 1/4 drive extension angled through the TB opening to tap out and a 3/8 extension as a drift to install new lithely lube the o ring to avoid cutting the o ring during install good luck with it. My 12 inch long extension pipes for the blast gun make it easier for m.

Thanks for the tip. But I always thought the pcv it self was in the intake manifold between the block and the manifold itself. I guess i am thinking it is in the wrong area ? For that matter. I'm not sure what the pcv looks like on an lnf. CED use to have them listed on their web site but I can't seem to find them anymore. I gues the dealer it is.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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Okay , so I guess maybe I missed it because I was able toi find it on CED's website again. But I would love to know exactly where it is. Is it not in the deck of the intake manifold ?
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:28 PM
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Old May 14, 2014 | 11:23 PM
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Hey John, you said you fabbed up a special tip for your blaster to get the back sides of the valves, do you have a picture? Id like to try to make one
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Old May 14, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Hey John, you said you fabbed up a special tip for your blaster to get the back sides of the valves, do you have a picture? Id like to try to make one
I looked did not find one; will take some tomorrow and if you email me it will be quicker cheers

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Old May 15, 2014 | 12:31 AM
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Hey John, you said you fabbed up a special tip for your blaster to get the back sides of the valves, do you have a picture? Id like to try to make one
Do what I did, take some thiner vacuum hose and tape it with hole lined up to blaster nossle, u can then get where ever u want in there. And for easy clean up of the wallnut blast in by the valves, do the same thing with shop vac, just use bigger hose
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Old May 19, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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I scoped my valves today using the brake booster line.

At 88k miles my valves look pristine. We scoped a buddy of mine's SS with 42k miles and his were worse than mine. I was suprised
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