LNF Valve Gunk..
rchiwawa take the free oil changes.. your passing up free oil changes no less with Mobil1 from the dealership? your crazy.. yea it far but it's free oil..
FYI - Dealership Service Receipts - have to show what oil has been used b/c just in case there is warranty claim - either from the dealership or from the consumer.. GM voids warranty claims b/c either the customer or dealership used the blend of oil.. it happens..
FYI - Dealership Service Receipts - have to show what oil has been used b/c just in case there is warranty claim - either from the dealership or from the consumer.. GM voids warranty claims b/c either the customer or dealership used the blend of oil.. it happens..
rchiwawa take the free oil changes.. your passing up free oil changes no less with Mobil1 from the dealership? your crazy.. yea it far but it's free oil..
FYI - Dealership Service Receipts - have to show what oil has been used b/c just in case there is warranty claim - either from the dealership or from the consumer.. GM voids warranty claims b/c either the customer or dealership used the blend of oil.. it happens..
FYI - Dealership Service Receipts - have to show what oil has been used b/c just in case there is warranty claim - either from the dealership or from the consumer.. GM voids warranty claims b/c either the customer or dealership used the blend of oil.. it happens..
To illustrate how clean she breaths, it took over 60k miles before the dealer said the filter was looking like it was about done. The media was a dark grey something on the order of a #4 pencil on plain paper. I figure with the exception of raw miles and the fact that I will dd it in any conditions (Conti Extreme contact DWS may be useless as a performance tire in my book but in compacted snow and ice its close enough to a performance winter tire in said performance that I will deal with it's mush otherwise because it isn't as bad as a true performance ice and snow tire in the wet or dry... its close, though.) in and through the Seattle area hills, my car leads a pretty optimal life.
Beside that, I trust the engineers, mobil 1 oil, the oil coloration, and don't want the dealership to reconsider its policy of unlimited free lifetime oil changes regardless of required oil for all new sales. If enough ******** like me came in once every 5 weeks for their Mobil 1 Synth and I am sure the line would change. Maybe paranoia on my end about the dealer policy, but I'll take it as needed; Why abuse it with no discernible gain
?Hopefully some of the solutions wont require huges sums of money. As I have found out that 200 degree c inlet valve temperatures are the point at which coking occurs ( assuming the presence of oil in the inlet tract) then your driving cycle and weather would sure be a contributor. Keeping excess oil out of the inlet is key, and thats my part of the solution. Stay tuned, sounds like you have done all the reasonable maintenence things anyone can do, and running the OLM normally into the teens is not a big deal. But for a DI engine, using low ash euro spec oil and changes at say 25% remaining would seem reasonable improvement.
I am holding out hope that the solution devised will be nigh imperceptible as a modification or not interfere with warranty. No matter what I've no doubt more than a few are watching.
Last edited by rchiwawa; Jul 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM. Reason: avoiding automerged double post
I figure why waste the oil. I requested to see the outgoing oil filter when I ran it to 17% and it was by all concerned considered to be rather clean period, not just for the mileage (something like 8-9k). The car is driven 2 hours a day on commutes. 15 minutes in town roads at 35-45mph, 45 minutes freeway at 60-70 depending on how late i am running. I NLS 2-3 on the way out and run it to at least 80 pretty much every morning. The car never breaths dirt Save for the rare street sweeper or whatever gets kicked up in winter.
To illustrate how clean she breaths, it took over 60k miles before the dealer said the filter was looking like it was about done. The media was a dark grey something on the order of a #4 pencil on plain paper. I figure with the exception of raw miles and the fact that I will dd it in any conditions (Conti Extreme contact DWS may be useless as a performance tire in my book but in compacted snow and ice its close enough to a performance winter tire in said performance that I will deal with it's mush otherwise because it isn't as bad as a true performance ice and snow tire in the wet or dry... its close, though.) in and through the Seattle area hills, my car leads a pretty optimal life.
Beside that, I trust the engineers, mobil 1 oil, the oil coloration, and don't want the dealership to reconsider its policy of unlimited free lifetime oil changes regardless of required oil for all new sales. If enough ******** like me came in once every 5 weeks for their Mobil 1 Synth and I am sure the line would change. Maybe paranoia on my end about the dealer policy, but I'll take it as needed; Why abuse it with no discernible gain
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I thought I read somewhere Mobil 1 Synthetic is no longer a low ash oil in grade 5w-30. I try to wait no longer than 50% but you know how it is. I am curious as to what a chunk of deposit breaking off of the valve would do.
I am holding out hope that the solution devised will be nigh imperceptible as a modification or not interfere with warranty. No matter what I've no doubt more than a few are watching.
To illustrate how clean she breaths, it took over 60k miles before the dealer said the filter was looking like it was about done. The media was a dark grey something on the order of a #4 pencil on plain paper. I figure with the exception of raw miles and the fact that I will dd it in any conditions (Conti Extreme contact DWS may be useless as a performance tire in my book but in compacted snow and ice its close enough to a performance winter tire in said performance that I will deal with it's mush otherwise because it isn't as bad as a true performance ice and snow tire in the wet or dry... its close, though.) in and through the Seattle area hills, my car leads a pretty optimal life.
Beside that, I trust the engineers, mobil 1 oil, the oil coloration, and don't want the dealership to reconsider its policy of unlimited free lifetime oil changes regardless of required oil for all new sales. If enough ******** like me came in once every 5 weeks for their Mobil 1 Synth and I am sure the line would change. Maybe paranoia on my end about the dealer policy, but I'll take it as needed; Why abuse it with no discernible gain
?I thought I read somewhere Mobil 1 Synthetic is no longer a low ash oil in grade 5w-30. I try to wait no longer than 50% but you know how it is. I am curious as to what a chunk of deposit breaking off of the valve would do.
I am holding out hope that the solution devised will be nigh imperceptible as a modification or not interfere with warranty. No matter what I've no doubt more than a few are watching.
As for a chunk depositing on the piston, up to now I've seen only a few Ecotec engines with the heads removed in the shop, but only a few [5] with "caked-on" deposits both on the pistons and on the valves, and each one had new pistons/valves installed.. so I could see it dropping on the piston and "Melting" on the piston..
one of the GM Master Techs told me - it's been a known issue since Lotus/Yamaha designed the head in the early 2k's and even Bosch knows about it too..
Thos happens due Not having raw fuel in the intake so the oil from the Pcv n whatever blow by cooks to the valve I'm a Mazda master tech n the same stuff happens to our 2.3 disi motors (speed6,3,cx7) there's no fix for it weber tryed numerous intake cleaners nothing helps
So if there are many different sources it seems that Wangspeed may have found one, over filling the crank case, he drained this out of his catch can apparently...
I was also thinking about where else can oil come from and then realized the turbo itself could be a source. My Stealth had oil in the charge pipes from leaking seals on the turbos, maybe a worn out turbo at high rpm/oil pressure might be one source. Maybe not an issue for low mileage or stock tune cars but anybody who runs their turbo hard or has an aftermarket turbo with a leaky bearing section could create this issue too. Problem is, how do you deal with oil from there? The only way would be some fancy charge pipe with a way to separate the oil from the air in high air flow volumes with low pressure drop. Yikes
I was also thinking about where else can oil come from and then realized the turbo itself could be a source. My Stealth had oil in the charge pipes from leaking seals on the turbos, maybe a worn out turbo at high rpm/oil pressure might be one source. Maybe not an issue for low mileage or stock tune cars but anybody who runs their turbo hard or has an aftermarket turbo with a leaky bearing section could create this issue too. Problem is, how do you deal with oil from there? The only way would be some fancy charge pipe with a way to separate the oil from the air in high air flow volumes with low pressure drop. Yikes
Miko you are a smart guy. This oil is NOT coming from the turbo. Its coming from the RC thru the pcv. Wangspeed is 75 % of the way there, the final solution will be ready this week. Warren is ahead of the curve on this deal.
if its plumbed on the fresh air side, its not doing anything but getting in the way.
after reading a ton of posts on gm sport compac, the best solution for me IMO is the walnut shell blast..
yes - it costs a few coins - but after looking the "before" and "after" for what the BMW/Audi/MB guys have done already to cure this problem.. it's a no brainer..
doing the walnut blast and coupled with Powell's PVC product.. this could minimize the coking to a point, provided the walnut blast is done once a year and Powell's PVC product is clean & working properly..
Before "Walnut Blast" pic - I though this was the intake valve in the middle of port - that not bad oil coking? oh'boy was I wrong..

After "Walnut Blast" pic - look at it sparkle!!
yes - it costs a few coins - but after looking the "before" and "after" for what the BMW/Audi/MB guys have done already to cure this problem.. it's a no brainer..
doing the walnut blast and coupled with Powell's PVC product.. this could minimize the coking to a point, provided the walnut blast is done once a year and Powell's PVC product is clean & working properly..
Before "Walnut Blast" pic - I though this was the intake valve in the middle of port - that not bad oil coking? oh'boy was I wrong..

After "Walnut Blast" pic - look at it sparkle!!
after reading a ton of posts on gm sport compac, the best solution for me IMO is the walnut shell blast..
yes - it costs a few coins - but after looking the "before" and "after" for what the BMW/Audi/MB guys have done already to cure this problem.. it's a no brainer..
doing the walnut blast and coupled with Powell's PVC product.. this could minimize the coking to a point, provided the walnut blast is done once a year and Powell's PVC product is clean & working properly..
Before "Walnut Blast" pic - I though this was the intake valve in the middle of port - that not bad oil coking? oh'boy was I wrong..

After "Walnut Blast" pic - look at it sparkle!!

yes - it costs a few coins - but after looking the "before" and "after" for what the BMW/Audi/MB guys have done already to cure this problem.. it's a no brainer..
doing the walnut blast and coupled with Powell's PVC product.. this could minimize the coking to a point, provided the walnut blast is done once a year and Powell's PVC product is clean & working properly..
Before "Walnut Blast" pic - I though this was the intake valve in the middle of port - that not bad oil coking? oh'boy was I wrong..

After "Walnut Blast" pic - look at it sparkle!!

john - i read the post twice, i couldn't believe it's an easy process to perform after reading the manual..
here's the post: e90post.com
here's the post: e90post.com
john - i read the post twice, i couldn't believe it's an easy process to perform after reading the manual..
here's the post: e90post.com
here's the post: e90post.com
Well update that went nowhere the canadian dealer sells shot blast dont know nothing about the machines and was offended I emailed them coz I am stupid to ask them for a machine all they sell is shot blast. live and learn. Back to harbor freight lol
Last edited by Powell Race Parts; Aug 15, 2012 at 03:44 PM.
I read the same BMW article a while ago too. The BMW tool itself is apparently on backorder everywhere because of demand. Walnut shell does seem like a no-brainer, especially for the factory dealerships. GM should be doing this rather than having their techs teardown the engine.
I read the same BMW article a while ago too. The BMW tool itself is apparently on backorder everywhere because of demand. Walnut shell does seem like a no-brainer, especially for the factory dealerships. GM should be doing this rather than having their techs teardown the engine.
this is a setup i'm looking to get to for my shop:
25 Lbs. Fine Grade Walnut Shell Blast Media @22.99 per bag

110 Lb. Pressurized Abrasive Blaster @$129.99

Abrasive Blast Cabinet @$119.99
25 Lbs. Fine Grade Walnut Shell Blast Media @22.99 per bag

110 Lb. Pressurized Abrasive Blaster @$129.99

Abrasive Blast Cabinet @$119.99
u need the vaccuum...lol . good stuff. in the cabinet, I suggest you use a soft aluminum silica or whatever they call it. in the floor model use the walnut shells for the heads and black shot for the hard stuff like rusted chevy rear axles off 1908 trucks lol



