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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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u need the vaccuum...lol . good stuff. in the cabinet, I suggest you use a soft aluminum silica or whatever they call it. in the floor model use the walnut shells for the heads and black shot for the hard stuff like rusted chevy rear axles off 1908 trucks lol
the vacuum I have, but I'm in the process of fabbin' something up to use for the head, I like the BMW unit.. that is a nice piece to have

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ps u will need a dryer in the line just before the blaster to stop the moisture nonsense.... next week final pcv will be up and running around....
I have one IR 2545E10V 2 Stg w/ 5 in-line dryers, the former shop owner was setup as a body shop, they took down the spray booth - which could have been nice to have $$.. only one problem - I have no lifts yet.. the last few weeks its been floor jacks.. using a crawler to do oil change jobs is a PITA!!
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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^^^ you be doing very well. Good luck,hopefully this week will see an advance on my work with the pcv...
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Is there any thought about having an 8 injector setup? The normal 4 for the DI, and 4 more in an aftermarket intake injecting into the intake ports?
I've heard of a setup like this somewhere, not sure where though but it would seem like a reasonable idea because it would only probably need the intake/injector set with controller and a tune?
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Good idea, toyota already do that for idle smoothness on some of their latest motors. not sure how easy it would be to do. frankly an annual media blast with nuts and a pcv mod and low ash oil would seem to be ez enough compared to the complexity of adding 4 injectors to a car not designed for it.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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Is there any thought about having an 8 injector setup? The normal 4 for the DI, and 4 more in an aftermarket intake injecting into the intake ports?
I've heard of a setup like this somewhere, not sure where though but it would seem like a reasonable idea because it would only probably need the intake/injector set with controller and a tune?
Its toyotas idea and they have done it. That said it probably adds a few hundred dollars to the price of the car and tuning could be a potential pain in the ass.
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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FYI, Eastwood has some blasting products might be worth while looking into as well. Might cost a little more than HF?

I am looking forward to seeing your the setup John when I am back from Korea..
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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FYI, Eastwood has some blasting products might be worth while looking into as well. Might cost a little more than HF?

I am looking forward to seeing your the setup John when I am back from Korea..
I think you will like it. safe trip, I have a business associate going there Tuesday, its a loooong trip.....
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:18 AM
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Is there any thought about having an 8 injector setup? The normal 4 for the DI, and 4 more in an aftermarket intake injecting into the intake ports?
I've heard of a setup like this somewhere, not sure where though but it would seem like a reasonable idea because it would only probably need the intake/injector set with controller and a tune?
Matt@ZZP has done a 4 injectors setup on the LNF intake manifold already, he stated they ran into small problems - having proper control for the injector timing, spray pattern, window, etc.. When I seen him this year and grilled him about it - he wouldn't give me a direct answer.. I believe they can do it, but I think R&D/build cost - out weights the demand..

I even looked into too, spoken to the AEM about doing a setup for the ecotec platform last year, but they stated "the ecotec platform isn't large enough to warrant the R&D expense of putting together a product for a platform that is way too small compared to other [import] markets".. for a Bosch piggyback controller..

I've put two ideas on paper already last year, even to build one and sell it - will cost a little over a $1000 bucks.. The only thing that is holding me back is the fact that, there isn't a demand for it - yet..

Again it comes down to waiting on Bosch to finish developing a system for a future production ecotec platform.. i.e: 2014 or 2015 Chevy SS?? some media outlets - say it will have a dual port DI setup for I4, V6 or V8?? Maybe we can use that setup - who knows?
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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any update for us powell?
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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done two so far working fine. trying to get some cost out, aeroquip hoses and line costs a lot of money, and its proving difficult to source a heat resistant fitting cheaply for the lower turbo connection. Silicone hose with a hose clamp is just asking for trouble, if it gets hot, falls off, drips oil onto a hot turbo, fire could result. Do it right, taking longer...
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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I read in another BMW DI article that Meth injection did help but it seemed to be inconsistent between the cylinders. I suspect because the distance from the nozzle was too far and the spray had completely transitioned to a gas and couldn't "wash" the valves. I think a single injector on a log style intake was their setup. Maybe individual injectors just above the valves would be the ticket and seems to be a good performance choice according to some kit suppliers.

Where to locate your alcohol-water injection nozzle - DevilsOwn Injection
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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I read in another BMW DI article that Meth injection did help but it seemed to be inconsistent between the cylinders. I suspect because the distance from the nozzle was too far and the spray had completely transitioned to a gas and couldn't "wash" the valves. I think a single injector on a log style intake was their setup. Maybe individual injectors just above the valves would be the ticket and seems to be a good performance choice according to some kit suppliers.

Where to locate your alcohol-water injection nozzle - DevilsOwn Injection
good point, but ZZP has done similar setup but found fueling issues.. read post #133 a few post up..
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Aquamist can do a 4 valve setup for direct port. Can't get any better than that. Trigger with the injector signal
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
done two so far working fine. trying to get some cost out, aeroquip hoses and line costs a lot of money, and its proving difficult to source a heat resistant fitting cheaply for the lower turbo connection. Silicone hose with a hose clamp is just asking for trouble, if it gets hot, falls off, drips oil onto a hot turbo, fire could result. Do it right, taking longer...
Nitrile based high quality rubber hoses for cheap bastards like me Silicone hoses + oily vapors = disintegrating hoses.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Nitrile based high quality rubber hoses for cheap bastards like me Silicone hoses + oily vapors = disintegrating hoses.
because its you I am working on a parker pushlok hose solution.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by shaman
Aquamist can do a 4 valve setup for direct port. Can't get any better than that. Trigger with the injector signal
did you mean 4 injectors?

thank you for posting this up, after reading the Aquamist web site for a good part of the day today, it's totally possible to add a second fuel rail/ injectors by just using Aeromist controller as a "piggy back" setup, but the controller itself is US$400+ - that's just for the controller.. not including the modified ecotec intake manifold for fuel ports, fuel rail or injectors and wiring harness which needs to be fab'd up.. more money.. but overall it's doable..
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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I think you can setup a megasquirt controller as a piggy back setup.that would be a low cost solution and lots of ppl have had success with them.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Here is what mine look like at 48K miles ..... been seafoamed every oil change since it was new ....every 4K miles or so .

I somehow missed placed one photo so I'm missing a cylinder . they arent squeaky clean but overall im happy with how they looked seeing as i've never ran a catch can .





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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Does your camera have a macro setting? That buildup on the valve stem doesn't look much different from the BMW guys pics when they started having drivability issues. A couple globs there.
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Does your camera have a macro setting? That buildup on the valve stem doesn't look much different from the BMW guys pics when they started having drivability issues. A couple globs there.
this is true. good point Miko.
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Does your camera have a macro setting? That buildup on the valve stem doesn't look much different from the BMW guys pics when they started having drivability issues. A couple globs there.
Not sure about the camera... it was my buds cell phone . Yep ... there were some globs but it looks a lot better than i imagined it would considering some of the other pics ive seen here . So far No drivability issues (knock on wood) .
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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John@Powell - any new updates?
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Old Sep 4, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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yes doing parker pushlok hoses and shipping first units out end of week.
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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yes doing parker pushlok hoses and shipping first units out end of week.
Is the product ready for order? Am I able to go to your website and order the product yet?
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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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Is the product ready for order? Am I able to go to your website and order the product yet?
we wont be doing web direct sales anytime soon; you can contact gloria@powellraceshop.com to order, but until I get the pushlok hose stuff finished up I cant price it right yet...I will post up when I can , it will be very soon.
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