2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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^ more like this whole thread lolwut
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Shibito
Funny thing is that I was the first tuned/bolted LNF on this site to run a C6 and everyone called bs on it back then
The car is question is also on a 50/50mix of 91 octane and E-85 which helps a lot. The LS3s are fast so I was impressed by this.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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from my reading here, if you plan on keeping the stock turbo, your best off bying an aftermarket headpipe, & 3" catback.
I will be going with modern performance's parts.
I have also read that the best intake setup is probably the K&N setup released a couple months back - I don't know if they've done a second run or not, but they can be found on ePay.
I've also read that many people see positive gains from changing their charge pipes, and intercooler.

IMHO, Cmillers "build" doesn't seem that complicated - his key swap was the brakes - which let him run a slick at the track.

that just my two cents worth.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Full boltons and an aggressive tune (high octane fuel helps a lot) and I have seen a stock turbo LNF balt put a half a car on a LS3 Vette (stock) from a roll.
Yea i have looked into doing e85 like you but i dont have and gas stations around that sell it i also looked into meth injection but i read that it only helps if you are running over 27 psi is that true
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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also i want to thank people like term2 soundjunky tommyp and i am broke for giving good feedback its nice to ask a question and get an answer instead of negative input on peoples "feelings" about this post which im not even sure why people comment in a thread if they are not going to offer ideas and i think you are all correct in that i need to upgrade the turbo to reach my goal
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmike86
Yea i have looked into doing e85 like you but i dont have and gas stations around that sell it i also looked into meth injection but i read that it only helps if you are running over 27 psi is that true
lmao where the f did you read that.
meth inj can help anywhere, allows you to run more timing, leaner afr, squeeze more injector, wow lol.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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you need to research before u even speak. you are saying so much dumb **** its litterally pissing me off just continuing to look at this thread. What an EPIC FAIL.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
lmao where the f did you read that.
meth inj can help anywhere, allows you to run more timing, leaner afr, squeeze more injector, wow lol.
i read it here i believe the statement was that meth injection does a good job on th ss/sc to keep it cooler but that it doesnt do much good on the turbo version untill you are running higher boost i dont know that for a fact wich is why i put is that ture at the end of the statement

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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Render2009
you need to research before u even speak. you are saying so much dumb **** its litterally pissing me off just continuing to look at this thread. What an EPIC FAIL.
wow i think you are in the wrong forum lol and its not like im really saying anything as fact im asking questions about a car i just got which i thought was the point of this forum i mean im sorry if i bought a car and didnt know everything there is to know about it as soon as i bought it like you must have and i also find it funny that the people who do know a lot about these cars dont have a problem with my questions term2 and i am broke both know a ton and tune themselves and are really helpful so if you have a problem with what im saying andd dont want to teach stay of my thread.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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I personally run water/meth, LOVE IT, better money spent than an intercooler upgrade, the difference is, most people see it as w/m requires maintanence and frankly few people would pick something the requires occassional attention vs something that requires no attention like an intercooler. That's not to mention there is YET to be a proven gain from any manufacturer's intercooler over stock. Is it worth paying 400 plus shipping minimum on a product that may not even reduce your cold side intake temp better than stock? I guess I just want to see a picture of the logs from stock to installed comparisons.

All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...

HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.

meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Godly
this!
Off topic...not that it matters with this thread but...
How did your username change?
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by army_greywolf
I personally run water/meth, LOVE IT, better money spent than an intercooler upgrade, the difference is, most people see it as w/m requires maintanence and frankly few people would pick something the requires occassional attention vs something that requires no attention like an intercooler. That's not to mention there is YET to be a proven gain from any manufacturer's intercooler over stock. Is it worth paying 400 plus shipping minimum on a product that may not even reduce your cold side intake temp better than stock? I guess I just want to see a picture of the logs from stock to installed comparisons.

All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...

HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.

meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
if i went with a selectable trifecta tune could they tune for meth and could it be turned off when im running factory tune
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmike86
if i went with a selectable trifecta tune could they tune for meth and could it be turned off when im running factory tune
if you disconnect the kit lol...........
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
if you disconnect the kit lol...........
what i mean is can it be setup to only turn on when i hit the comp mode which turns on the trifecta tune or can i hook it up to a toggle switch
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TommypSS/TC
Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
yea i know that i read the thread about only being able to do 50/50 but thats not even an option for me since i dont have an e85 station anywhere near me
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmike86
what i mean is can it be setup to only turn on when i hit the comp mode which turns on the trifecta tune or can i hook it up to a toggle switch
talk to trifecta. Vince said he found an unused input on our ecms that can be used for just that.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TommypSS/TC
Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
The stock injectors can handle a 50/50 mix of gasoline and E-85 just fine you just have to tune for it.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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I didn't start to run out of fueling until I exceeded 65% ethanol on a fully bolted LNF with the stock turbo. Raised fuel pressure (2700 psi) almost got me to E85, but sadly, not quite. When they switch to E70 in October for the winter I may try it again but cooler air requires more fuel so it's doubtful then as well.
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