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from my reading here, if you plan on keeping the stock turbo, your best off bying an aftermarket headpipe, & 3" catback.
I will be going with modern performance's parts.
I have also read that the best intake setup is probably the K&N setup released a couple months back - I don't know if they've done a second run or not, but they can be found on ePay.
I've also read that many people see positive gains from changing their charge pipes, and intercooler.
IMHO, Cmillers "build" doesn't seem that complicated - his key swap was the brakes - which let him run a slick at the track.
that just my two cents worth.
I will be going with modern performance's parts.
I have also read that the best intake setup is probably the K&N setup released a couple months back - I don't know if they've done a second run or not, but they can be found on ePay.
I've also read that many people see positive gains from changing their charge pipes, and intercooler.
IMHO, Cmillers "build" doesn't seem that complicated - his key swap was the brakes - which let him run a slick at the track.
that just my two cents worth.
Yea i have looked into doing e85 like you but i dont have and gas stations around that sell it i also looked into meth injection but i read that it only helps if you are running over 27 psi is that true
also i want to thank people like term2 soundjunky tommyp and i am broke for giving good feedback its nice to ask a question and get an answer instead of negative input on peoples "feelings" about this post which im not even sure why people comment in a thread if they are not going to offer ideas and i think you are all correct in that i need to upgrade the turbo to reach my goal
meth inj can help anywhere, allows you to run more timing, leaner afr, squeeze more injector, wow lol.
i read it here i believe the statement was that meth injection does a good job on th ss/sc to keep it cooler but that it doesnt do much good on the turbo version untill you are running higher boost i dont know that for a fact wich is why i put is that ture at the end of the statement
Last edited by Jmike86; Sep 27, 2010 at 07:20 PM.
wow i think you are in the wrong forum lol and its not like im really saying anything as fact im asking questions about a car i just got which i thought was the point of this forum i mean im sorry if i bought a car and didnt know everything there is to know about it as soon as i bought it like you must have and i also find it funny that the people who do know a lot about these cars dont have a problem with my questions term2 and i am broke both know a ton and tune themselves and are really helpful so if you have a problem with what im saying andd dont want to teach stay of my thread.
I personally run water/meth, LOVE IT, better money spent than an intercooler upgrade, the difference is, most people see it as w/m requires maintanence and frankly few people would pick something the requires occassional attention vs something that requires no attention like an intercooler. That's not to mention there is YET to be a proven gain from any manufacturer's intercooler over stock. Is it worth paying 400 plus shipping minimum on a product that may not even reduce your cold side intake temp better than stock? I guess I just want to see a picture of the logs from stock to installed comparisons.
All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...
HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.
meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...
HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.
meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
I personally run water/meth, LOVE IT, better money spent than an intercooler upgrade, the difference is, most people see it as w/m requires maintanence and frankly few people would pick something the requires occassional attention vs something that requires no attention like an intercooler. That's not to mention there is YET to be a proven gain from any manufacturer's intercooler over stock. Is it worth paying 400 plus shipping minimum on a product that may not even reduce your cold side intake temp better than stock? I guess I just want to see a picture of the logs from stock to installed comparisons.
All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...
HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.
meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
All that said, I run variable flow rates and have modified my tables to match everything up and included a fail safe just in case I run out. I set it up so the w/m has two settings, track and street. Both settings only inject under positive boost and the track setting injects three times the rate from about 9 pounds and up, to the point it's 100 percent duty by 16 pounds. It nets about 25 horsepower IMHO, while this isn't a huge deal, it reduced my exhaust temp more than 150 degrees, which is a concern on the track with a semi aggressive tune. And by track I mean road course not elevens...
HP Tuners cannot tune the PCM's projected Exhaust Gas Temperature correctly, using the tech2 I found the probe I installed to report a temp as much as 200 degrees higher than PCM calculated. So moral of the story, don't use it as a baseline.
meth works, it works well, and for certain applications it's probably the best thing you can do for car longevity.
Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
Since no one has said it here yet, you mentioned running E85. E85 would be great to run no matter how much boost you are putting out. The problem is that we can't run E85 on the LNF because we do not have large enough injectors, and there are no aftermarket ones for the LNF.
I didn't start to run out of fueling until I exceeded 65% ethanol on a fully bolted LNF with the stock turbo. Raised fuel pressure (2700 psi) almost got me to E85, but sadly, not quite. When they switch to E70 in October for the winter I may try it again but cooler air requires more fuel so it's doubtful then as well.
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