2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

S-Max Balt Intercooler Pics!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 01:47 AM
  #26  
marcusicp's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-19-08
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
From: NC
Originally Posted by DC52NV
sub'd
You do know that you don't need to post to subscribe to a thread right? I mean you are a mod. Unless you are trying to get you post count up or something. In which case, carry on.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 01:50 AM
  #27  
DC52NV's Avatar
Senior Member
Platinum Member
 
Joined: 06-24-05
Posts: 14,265
Likes: 1
From: California
Originally Posted by marcusicp
You do know that you don't need to post to subscribe to a thread right? I mean you are a mod. Unless you are trying to get you post count up or something. In which case, carry on.
i do not care to receive an email after every post. i just want to post in it so when i check 'my posts' i see it. i think i have enough posts already.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:02 AM
  #28  
marcusicp's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-19-08
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
From: NC
Originally Posted by DC52NV
i do not care to receive an email after every post. i just want to post in it so when i check 'my posts' i see it. i think i have enough posts already.
You can select no email notifications when you subscribe with the thread tools tab...
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:06 AM
  #29  
DC52NV's Avatar
Senior Member
Platinum Member
 
Joined: 06-24-05
Posts: 14,265
Likes: 1
From: California
Originally Posted by marcusicp
You can select no email notifications when you subscribe with the thread tools tab...
and it will still show up in my posts? damn, i've been posting in forums for over 10 years and never knew that. whenever i do subscribe to a thread it's for important reasons so i do want an instant email.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:09 AM
  #30  
marcusicp's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-19-08
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
From: NC
Originally Posted by DC52NV
and it will still show up in my posts? damn, i've been posting in forums for over 10 years and never knew that. whenever i do subscribe to a thread it's for important reasons so i do want an instant email.
Yep!
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:28 AM
  #31  
redstarpa69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 12-12-08
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
From: NEPA & Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by elecblue06
regardless man even with a GT 35 that intercooler is too big... you'd need like a gt 45 lol

however we'll see you ever goto island dragway?
dont get me wrong, the IC is big but the fact is GT35 or SPA 700 is perfect for it, because they both spool alittle slow but once it gets going -its going.. GT45/66/T70/77 is overkill.. lag, lag, lag..

a small IC is great and reliable, im not to worry about psi drop - just cold air, psi drop will make up for a bigger turbo with 3 Boost/BOV w/ controller.. fuel/ ign/ etc...

as for island - a few times during the year to get motor ideas.. like this IC and 2 K20's..

Last edited by redstarpa69; Jun 8, 2009 at 08:41 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:47 AM
  #32  
ralliartist's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-06-05
Posts: 10,944
Likes: 2
From: Seneca, South Carolina
lmao, you don't think you'll have lag with with a gt35?

what are you going to do as far as fuel to support that big of a turbo?
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:00 AM
  #33  
40rty's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 08-11-08
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 1
From: San Diego
I don't like it, but if you make it work for you setup then more power to yea, literally! Personally I think if someone is going to purchase this intercooler I hope they have in mind a front bumper swap as its usless having all that intercooler and only having cold air hit half of it. Either way, enjoy.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:00 AM
  #34  
ralliartist's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 10-06-05
Posts: 10,944
Likes: 2
From: Seneca, South Carolina
I don't think much thought process went into this. I think this was one of those, "it's bigger so it must be better."
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 07:55 AM
  #35  
cobaltguy889's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 04-13-09
Posts: 1,450
Likes: 0
From: WI
its only june right now....so by thanksgiving your turbo should be close to spooling...

With that gt35 you are going to have to have a higher rev limiter otherwise it will spool, and you'll only get a little bit of glory, which will make it worthless.

What I don't understand is why such a huge intercooler when your running cryo through it...if your running a sort of cooling through the intercooler, then the size of that one is definatley over kill. You could have had more of an advantage by going with a smaller intercooler and running the cry0.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:17 AM
  #36  
Terminator2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-25-08
Posts: 12,450
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Originally Posted by peachpuff
There's less pressure drop with bigger intercoolers.
That is true as long as the Turbo can effeciently fill the volume of the IC. Bigger ICs generally have more flow capacity and lower pressure drops but bigger is not always better.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:25 AM
  #37  
V8Rumble's Avatar
New Member
 
Joined: 04-25-09
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
From: White Rock, BC
It would just take longer to fill up and delay peak boost a bit right?
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 09:30 AM
  #38  
Terminator2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-25-08
Posts: 12,450
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Originally Posted by V8Rumble
It would just take longer to fill up and delay peak boost a bit right?
Yes, and it may peak at less boost because of the huge volume. We dont really know until someone tests this IC.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:13 PM
  #39  
redstarpa69's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: 12-12-08
Posts: 323
Likes: 0
From: NEPA & Jacksonville FL
Originally Posted by 40rty
I don't like it, but if you make it work for you setup then more power to yea, literally! Personally I think if someone is going to purchase this intercooler I hope they have in mind a front bumper swap as its usless having all that intercooler and only having cold air hit half of it. Either way, enjoy.
i dont mind for the bumper and bumper cover will have a larger air port cut out for the IC..

Originally Posted by ralliartist
I don't think much thought process went into this. I think this was one of those, "it's bigger so it must be better."
this IC was very well thought out , and yes sometimes bigger is better depending on the application..

Originally Posted by cobaltguy889
its only june right now....so by thanksgiving your turbo should be close to spooling...

With that gt35 you are going to have to have a higher rev limiter otherwise it will spool, and you'll only get a little bit of glory, which will make it worthless.

What I don't understand is why such a huge intercooler when your running cryo through it...if your running a sort of cooling through the intercooler, then the size of that one is definatley over kill. You could have had more of an advantage by going with a smaller intercooler and running the cry0.
spooling may be an issue, but you never know until you try it.. it worthless if you dont know or try.

the other idea is keeping boost at a level to keep the turbo spooling most of the time.. like in rally cars @ 7-14 psi all the time - even in park

if you freeze air - tell me what happen to it.. then you'll understand the need for a big IC.

Originally Posted by Terminator2
That is true as long as the Turbo can effeciently fill the volume of the IC. Bigger ICs generally have more flow capacity and lower pressure drops but bigger is not always better.
again - yes sometimes bigger is better depending on the application..

in quarter mile a small IC - is great (time)

in autocross a med to large IC - is great (distance)

in rally/circuit/closed circle track a small to med IC - is great (time & distance)

Originally Posted by Terminator2
Yes, and it may peak at less boost because of the huge volume. We dont really know until someone tests this IC.
Im testing both S-Max IC's "Tuner" & "OEM" vs. the Hahn IC "OEM" next week.

I will post sheet asap..

Last edited by redstarpa69; Jun 3, 2009 at 02:30 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:22 PM
  #40  
marcusicp's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-19-08
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
From: NC
Can't wait to see the results!
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:44 PM
  #41  
BartSS's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 01-11-09
Posts: 3,386
Likes: 2
From: Chicagooooo
**** my crazy steve IC barely cleared my bumper i wonder how this will look finished
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:55 PM
  #42  
Terminator2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 07-25-08
Posts: 12,450
Likes: 6
From: Florida
Originally Posted by BartSS
**** my crazy steve IC barely cleared my bumper i wonder how this will look finished
He is going to have to remove the crash bar for that thing to fit in there.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:02 PM
  #43  
Mazdaboi318's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 11-03-08
Posts: 2,942
Likes: 1
From: Bossier City, Louisiana
I wonder how the OEM one will look. and what price

they seem to know what they are doing though!

http://www.speedmaxperformance.com/


also
http://xenonworxhid.com/s-max-intercoolers.html

Last edited by Mazdaboi318; Jun 3, 2009 at 04:05 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:16 PM
  #44  
peachpuff's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-14-08
Posts: 1,023
Likes: 1
From: around the world
Originally Posted by elecblue06
umm wut.. the bigger the intercooler the more air is needed to fill it up..
That's not the definition of pressure drop when talking about intercoolers, pressure drop is the difference between the in vs out pressure.
Yes it might take a split second longer to fill up the bigger intercooler but you'll never notice it.
And do us all a favor and learn to spell, this isn't grade school.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:29 PM
  #45  
elecblue06's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 03-19-07
Posts: 14,901
Likes: 1
From: newburgh,ny
Originally Posted by peachpuff
That's not the definition of pressure drop when talking about intercoolers, pressure drop is the difference between the in vs out pressure.
Yes it might take a split second longer to fill up the bigger intercooler but you'll never notice it.
And do us all a favor and learn to spell, this isn't grade school.
there's only one word that was spelled wrong was what and it was spelled wut on purpose.. douche.. if you need to stoop to bagging on spelling and grammar on a forum you really need to grow up

and do us all a favor and go take some physics ... yes you will notice.. slower spool and a pressure drop .. will happen... bigger just means it'll support more air and be harder to heatsoak.. which like the OP said .. this would be for auto x where your worried about heatsoak and not really going that fast to get more air going past the front mount .. not for road or drag the op understands why don't you ? will it be a HUGE issue probably not .. but a FMIC that big is not necessary at all
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2009 | 06:16 PM
  #46  
peachpuff's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-14-08
Posts: 1,023
Likes: 1
From: around the world
Douche? I'm not the one that needs to grow up, i'm way past name calling.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 12:39 AM
  #47  
elecblue06's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 03-19-07
Posts: 14,901
Likes: 1
From: newburgh,ny
Originally Posted by peachpuff
Douche? I'm not the one that needs to grow up, i'm way past name calling.
haha you can't be that far past it if you're picking on peoples spelling. it's a forum.. get over yourself i'm pretty sure everyone could understand me fine... no response to the actual comments i made aside from that.. ? lol
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 02:59 PM
  #48  
steven6870's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: 10-06-08
Posts: 801
Likes: 1
From: NC
Back to the IC...I have posted before on this, but has anyone just changed out the ends on the stocker? It's not too bad of a design. I do think that HAHNs would be perfect if not for the thickness of it. IMO perfect IC for our little K04 would be height, length, and flow of HAHNS, and thickness of stocker. Again just my opinion...too tall-pressure drop, too thick-bad cross flow.

As far as this IC goes, thats a huge bitch. A little to big for our turbos.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 04:19 PM
  #49  
peachpuff's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: 05-14-08
Posts: 1,023
Likes: 1
From: around the world
Originally Posted by elecblue06
no response to the actual comments i made aside from that.. ? lol
You must of missed it, you'll never notice any slower spool with a bigger intercooler, you're talking about fractions of a second here not a couple seconds when you go to a bigger turbo.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2009 | 04:54 PM
  #50  
Hockeyman's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: 08-10-07
Posts: 5,624
Likes: 8
From: DFW
that just looks like rediculous overkill
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:02 PM.