I dont drag race so I have none. Revhighs car is tuned with Hp tuners on 91 octane he ran 12.7 at 113. Mkribs ran 13.0 at 109. there are others I am forgetting.

 

Is there anybody with the LNF kit that has hooked up to HP tuners to see what the tune looks like and if so was there any room for improvement?

 

There is definately room for improvement. Those HHRs make only 255-260 whp with the stage tune alone. There can be 30-40 whp and 80 wrtq added on top of that tune only.

 

So is anyone in PA/OH/NJ/NY looking to get tuned with HP?

 

The superchips tune is pretty rich too for the amount of how should I say "aggressiveness" these cars seem to enjoy the 12.6-12.8 range at 22psi.

I personally have NEVER had one of my LNF cars richer than 12.6, besides my own just trying to see how much timing I could cram into the car and I think it was a 12.3-12.4 or so.

Trifecta is a more aggressive offering than Superchips is, why iunno but it is. Atleast with trifecta he plays with timing and such

I have several draggers that I have tuned personally.

1.) 13.0 at 115 being the best of them. (I have since tuned him for meth and other mods)
The rest seem to hover around 13.2-13.4's at 110+

My car hasn't been to the track but I would be willing to bet I am low 13s high 12s

 

Reason I ask is that guys with Trifecta are going to the track and running numbers, I have also seen a 0.5 second improvement with Superchips tune over stock.

I see all these HP Tuners cars putting up great dyno numbers, but no timeslips.

 

You do this... lemmie know I may make a road trip too!

Some of us like me... don't care about numbers! Because they are just that numbers! Check out some of the fastest LSJ cars 06black and 06blackg85ss along with Area47 all SUPER HIGH HP cars but the track is just that.....

 

06black said personally he likes the Superchips tune. He likes it over the Trifecta tune also - he said he has seen LNF Superchips maps and thinks they are not that bad. You say the Superchips map is weak, soft, stock, etc.

 

It is soft... I never said I liked SC over Trifecta... or Trifecta over SC

I don't like either of them... What I said was Trifectas tune was more aggressive. I have seen the SC map myself it's on my laptop right this minute!

 

Problem with most of us LNF guys is we have a warrnty to consider when taking a car to the track. Manual cars are harder on parts and the margin for error is alot higher than an auto so the chance for breaking parts is alot higher especially when many of these high hp guys are running stock clutches. First gear from the factory is useless stock so i could only imagine what some of the 300+ guys have to live with especially trying to run as fast as they can at the track. True times on a FWD cars is gonna be with a drag radial or slick and that will destroy a clutch and or tranny. All these dyno numbers are verification of money well spent to make power. If you want track times use a drag calculator so you know what the car is capable of not limited by the driver. In a RWD car with the same HP and weight and trap speeds these cars would be in the low 12's, but traction is always limited.

 

I'll be honest... my car is easier to drive now than it was stock... I dont' worry about it at all.... the tune is solid and the car is solid.

It's just we are at the point where we need the rest of the fueling and a 3bar map to go much further...

 

About driveability, i found these LNF cars are much more difficult to drive smoothly than my LS1 camaro. What i noticed is when changing gears, when letting the clutch back out after the gear change i always hear a clunk as is im not shifting fast enough. Also my tranny in first gear sounds kind of like a reverse gear, like a straight cut gear noise. Also since its a 4 door, i notice some noises when going over smallpeaked driveways like im getting chassi flex. I know these cars have their little noises but would like to know if these I have are common also.

 

I dont know if he really looked it over well. I just sent him the SC tune file after he made that post. It is crazy close to the stock tune. The fueling is richer (a little too rich up top for the airload IMHO) and the ariloads are about 10% higher than stock in some areas 235 kPA max ( 19.4 psi) it falls to 200 KPa (14.3psi) up top ( 6300 and up just like the stock tune does) That being siad it is perfectly safe (safer than 11.8 A/F) but leaves a ton of power especially up top on the table.

 

noticed that toO!!!! sounds cool like a race transmission! (dog toothed)
and yea the tranny does do alot of clunking between shifts. It also backfires 80% of the time between 1-2 shift while driving normal. I love it.

 

the SC map is weak. but that's the reason i like it.

most people cant drive a car that's "on the edge" tune wise.

they'll eaither brake it, or blow it.

the trif tune is closer to that line then the SC map all while not delivering that much better numbers, thus i'll take the map that is considerably safer.

 

The driveline clunk gets better over time and shifting faster does help a lot.

Makes sense but I like my tune better that is all. I hate seeing people spend $360-400 on a tune like that though. It was not much work to put together that is for sure.

 

I agree with this statement 100% it's perfect for someone who wants to just drive and beat the **** out of it...

But for the rest of us it leaves much to be desired!

 

That it does. I baby my car most of the time but once a day or so I have to feel the surge of power as it shreads the tires off all the way to 75 mph or so.

 

Im a second or third gear guy myself. Just cruise through 1st and once in second will roll into the go pedal and ride it out till 6k then put it in 5th and cruise again. Or when getting on the highway roll through 3rd in the same manner. Love the feel of progressively being put into you seat. Much different than an sc which feels flat until you look at how fast you are already going.

 

yea, constantly increasing acceleration is a beautiful thing

 

Yeah I know the feeling... but I baby mine 99% of the time too

 

thats all true, but you put your average joe blow behind the wheel of an aggressively tuned car, and the repair bill will be more then $400.

and yes, its offley cheap to "make" a tune like that.

 

I agree 100%

 

I have to once agree... I'm not bashing the SC flashpaq just saying it's not where the power is going to be found is all...

And true enough put 90% of these drivers behind the wheel of our cars and they won't be running much longer afterwards

 

It is stupid to drive it like you stole it all the time anyway. I am breaking the speed limit in a matter of a few seconds most of the time that way. It gets expensive if the cops catch you.