and you should until proven otherwise. I am stating my opinion based on the result with my own car. trust me my veh. only has the best product aval. (ssr wheels, dejon parts, m/t radials etc...) if I was not a firm believe I wouldn't be doing it. until the car starts having problems or I see something in my logs I am going to stand behind the R@D Dave and myself have done with the ss/tc up to this point.

enough said !!!! (still trying to be a vendor) its funny how a spammer can get a screen name but a company such as dejon can't..........

 

i would go with hahn and i noticed that in another comment you were mentioning price and i wanna say from what i have seen/heard in regards to everything with cars you get what you pay for also i wanna mention that if you buy/bought anything with hahn for your cobalt ss/tc they will work out a discount for multiple items (i.e. i buy an intake today and tommorow i decide i want a catback they say they will give you a discount on the cat back, or anything else you would want for that matter) i would highly sugest looking around their site they have done amazing things with cobalts and pretty much with anything else that they touch

 

Bill is a great guy. one of the nicest people to talk too. but at the end of the day a pipe is a pipe and a 20g is a 20g so...... again I buy the best products for my veh. because at the end of the day I want to be faster than the next guy with better drivability so if I for one sec. saw an advantage of buying another companies product over dejon I WOULD!!!! but I buy the best bang for the buck and when two items are made the same way with the same parts I am buying the cheaper of the two.

 

jesus christ the lemming effect on this forum is ****** ridiculous.

 

Seriously... last time I checked... 14g aluminum is the same as 14g aluminum (or whatever it is)... one just has a BIG name on it the other doesn't...

One is $400 bucks the other is $200!

I'm not bad mouthing HAHN they are a GREAT company as well... had their parts on my Eclipse back in the day!

Just stating facts that pipes are pipes...

 

TY!!!

 

pipes are pipes are pipes LOL gotta love that statement because it's true, FFF form fit and function

 

umm actually you need to check the facts. Dejon is made from 16 GA. Aluminum and Hahns is made from Nickel plated Steel. Steel is actually a lot better at keep air colder into the engine. Aluminum lets off a lot of the coolness. just to let you all know

The difference is seriously probably like 1-2 hp vs. using aluminum or steel. You just have to ask yourself is an extra $150 worth MAYBE 1 more hp? to me no. I will order Dejon's intake and using the rest of the money to save for their charge piping

 

need I say more

 

The most restrictive part of the stock system is the acordian looking hose need the BPV. Any system that replaces that part is going to net you better air flow.

 

it's called heat wrap use the "saved money" and wrap your ****. u could also use the same heat wrap for the turbo HOTSIDE, it's all how you do it, header heat wrap and wrap the downpipe. you would be surprised how much difference it would make which i'm sure you know already.

 

yes actually i do because i use header heat wrap on my Trans Am

And I looked on Dejon's website closer and they do offer a Steel intake. And it's cheaper so looks like that's a pretty good deal

 

another restrictive part is the snorkel tube from the stock airbox that goes down the fender

 

very true

btw i found a place to buy the BOV delete plate cheaper than at hahn.
http://btfstore.co.cc/product_info.p...67f00968e30546
It's only $30 opposed to $45 from Hahn. Woo hoo

 

I posted that in another thread.

Here is a sneak peak of what they look like. They are billet aluminum

 

sneak peak? they aren't out yet?

 

wow those plates look nice, even thouht it doesnt matter as i doubt its easily visible

 

no they are out...he just sent me the picture of them freshly made

they are kinda visible

 

well thanks for the pics cuz that website doesn't show them. I am ordering one

 

cheap pipes vs the hahn pipes
and people are saying the difference is like 2 hp haha and people are fighting over it haha this is great
its like the big fight a long time ago when that stupid ass typhoon gas mileage shittermabober came out

 

some people just have too much pride to admit they spent too much on a set of metal pipes.

 

OR

Someone wishes they could have the ones they really want, but cant afford it; but will try their hardest to get everyone to get the cheap ones, so they feel better?

GM promotes Hahn. GM does this for a reason. GM does not acknowledge "Dejon"

 

That's cute that you just believe anything GM promotes. I would rather have facts and figures. Like numbers.

GM could really use a guy like you right now lol

 

Take that stupid plaque Bill got from SALES. Take it to GM and show them , then ask them to reinstate your warranty - Its a plaque thats it. Doesnt do anything for ANYONE but makes Hahn feel good and gets him more sales.

 

pipes are pipes, as far as i can tell everyone here just wants to go fast you dont have to be the fastest so a 2 hp loss is worth the extra 200 in pocket to me im going spend it on my dp. although the i must say the hahn hpintercooler for the sstc is a must, its definately the best out in my eyes.

mixing and matching to go fast but not trying to be the fastest is what most are doing and its just smart shopping thats all.