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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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two and a half weeks since anything about the status of this thing... starting to sounds like vaporware...

i know i just want to know if they have one testing on the car and a genreal idea of as to how/where its going to be located... it'd be really awesome if they'd release a deveolpment picture...
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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you guys need to realize that production of a product takes MONTHS almost years. Like I was saying earlier in the thread, this wont be out I bet till end of the year or next year. Hence why for the mean time I just bought the k&n so I could have some fun. From the sounds of it, and if it does live up to its hype, it will be worth the wait. If it lives up to it, I'll buy it. but in the mean time I have a good intake as well
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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VARARAM INDUSTRIES LNF INTAKE NOW OR BAN!!! , thats how the internet is
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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i wonder how long it took them to get the intake figured out on a C6Z
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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couldnt wait, K&N SRI ordered, will still consider down the line
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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How long COULD it take to dedicate several employees to trial and error on a test car. Dyno it. rinse and repeat a few times. do a couple week long term test and than start pumping it out. A reputable company should not take a year. 6 months of designing and producing would be borderline ludacris. IMO
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
How long COULD it take to dedicate several employees to trial and error on a test car. Dyno it. rinse and repeat a few times. do a couple week long term test and than start pumping it out. A reputable company should not take a year. 6 months of designing and producing would be borderline ludacris. IMO
Look how long it took K&N and they are usually the first to have a CAI for new cars. Also take in consideration other projects that are going on as well. Some companies might only have 6 or 7 people who are scattered on separate projects. That might throw a wrench in your logic.

Talked with patrick today and he is going to be getting his hands on an lnf out of a wrecked cobalt at the end of the week to put on their engine dyno to do testing on a stock intake compared to prototype versions of their intake. He is also going to generate some flow numbers from the intake and heads just get get an idea of what the engine flows unrestricted.

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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
How long COULD it take to dedicate several employees to trial and error on a test car. Dyno it. rinse and repeat a few times. do a couple week long term test and than start pumping it out. A reputable company should not take a year. 6 months of designing and producing would be borderline ludacris. IMO
ya most "race shops" like this have maybe 5 people and they all work on multiple cars/product. Sooo a hour here hour there for 1 person working on it, wont be quick. They may be popular and seem big but most are very small and thats how they keep the good quality and knowledge in the business. Same thing when I contacted CP-E to make parts...
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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Look how long it took K&N and they are usually the first to have a CAI for new cars. Also take in consideration other projects that are going on as well. Some companies might only have 6 or 7 people who are scattered on separate projects. That might throw a wrench in your logic.

Talked with patrick today and he is going to be getting his hands on an lnf out of a wrecked cobalt at the end of the week to put on their engine dyno to do testing on a stock intake compared to prototype versions of their intake. He is also going to generate some flow numbers from the intake and heads just get get an idea of what the engine flows unrestricted.
okay, sounds like i was right and this is a theoretical intake so far... its all cad files and hopes...
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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okay, sounds like i was right and this is a theoretical intake so far... its all cad files and hopes...
well now you are just making stuff up. The last update was posted a page or so back. there was a model in testing for the air straightener. I dont think a company this popular for vette intakes would f around making a cobalt intake unless they were fairly serious. It would be a giant waste of resources so until this is duke nukem forever ware, stop making **** up. This immature attitude is what makes shops and companies not want to make parts for our cars. This same BS happened with Cobb in the speed3/6 world and guess what they called out all the jackasses and pulled out. Now what? everyone misses them.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Well, Im still in waiting for this intake to come out. I knew it was going to take a long time so no impatience here. I want a good product and if that takes time so be it.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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just checked out their website. They don't exactly produce a lot of products, so the whole, "they have other things to do" or "their personnel are split up working on other projects" statements are null and void. Fact is, they aren't do much of anything. For the cobalts or for other cars, seems pretty slack-ass.
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Old Jul 9, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
just checked out their website. They don't exactly produce a lot of products, so the whole, "they have other things to do" or "their personnel are split up working on other projects" statements are null and void. Fact is, they aren't do much of anything. For the cobalts or for other cars, seems pretty slack-ass.
I doubt we see anything from them.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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gawd you guys are freaking drama queens. Maybe updates to the product should be PM'd to people that care. Just wait, if/when its released you'll praise the **** out of it and then I can come and say told you so :P
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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I don't praise any part.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hiltu
just checked out their website. They don't exactly produce a lot of products, so the whole, "they have other things to do" or "their personnel are split up working on other projects" statements are null and void. Fact is, they aren't do much of anything. For the cobalts or for other cars, seems pretty slack-ass.
You are very opinionated and rude. From your comments apparently you must still live at home and your parents bought you your car. You have no concept of the real world and apparently think people are at you becken call. Either shut your trap or go somewhere were you can hear yourself talk with nobody else listening. Sounds like mom and dad didn't take you over their knee enough.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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gawd you guys are freaking drama queens. Maybe updates to the product should be PM'd to people that care. Just wait, if/when its released you'll praise the **** out of it and then I can come and say told you so :P
This is the same kind of noise I heard when I made a plea on the forum to email or call Enkei and tell them, politely, we wanted some wheels for the Cobalt SS. I had called and spoke with a rep named King who told me Enkei was going to release a new wheel series in a short time but had not decided whether to make one for us due to the lack of demand. The Cobalt SS/TC is, after all, a semi rare car only being made a few years and NOT selling several hundred thousand or more units like most other cars. He explained if they couldn't sell enough of them the price would have to be so high, in order to show some kind of profit, nobody would be able to afford them. He suggested if I could show there was enough interest he would go to the people that make those kind of decisions and make our plea to them. I posted the appeal and caught so much flack I almost said to hell with it. But a FEW of us did contact King and guess what? We now have the PF01 which has since become a very popular wheel. As soon as King told me they would be making the PF01 for us I placed my order to show good will. I waited 3 months but was the first to have them installed on my car. I called Kind to thank him and he said if it wasn't for the interest shown in emails and phone calls it would never have happened. Thank you to those that showed some class and took my advice.

So after saying all that. GROW UP AND SHOW SOME PATIENCE? Suck on ice cubes and keep it in your pants. A vendor isn't going to invest ANYTHING, time, energy, intelligence, design and money to produce a quality item for a limited audience that does nothing but bitch, moan, groan, complain and bad mouth them. They don't need that ****. And they DON'T NEED you. They made a living before you and I'm sure they'll be around for a long time without you. If you want quality parts you need THEM.

If it wasn't for the fact I already have an intake that I'm satisfied with I would probably have already sent my deposit for theirs. As it is, when/IF it is finally released, if I like it more than what I have now, I might buy it anyway. Unless you impatient kids kill it for the rest of us.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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I will say I was skeptic buell that you were going to get it done. At least I stated my opinion that it would be hard to do, then waiting and kept a positive mind to your updates. So I agree, these children are what ruin companies from making parts. hiding behind a monitor is easy to spout **** off.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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You are very opinionated and rude. From your comments apparently you must still live at home and your parents bought you your car. You have no concept of the real world and apparently think people are at you becken call. Either shut your trap or go somewhere were you can hear yourself talk with nobody else listening. Sounds like mom and dad didn't take you over their knee enough.
active duty Navy 3 years. been on my own since i was 18. so YES, i still live with mommy and daddy. ive never had my parents make a car payment or insurance payment in my life. I work hard for my money.... nuclear mechanic and engineering laboratory technician. Having an opinion does not make me a bad person, and it is your opinion that im rude. So YOU should go troll somewhere Mr. Independant
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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active duty Navy 3 years. been on my own since i was 18. so YES, i still live with mommy and daddy. ive never had my parents make a car payment or insurance payment in my life. I work hard for my money.... nuclear mechanic and engineering laboratory technician. Having an opinion does not make me a bad person, and it is your opinion that im rude. So YOU should go troll somewhere Mr. Independant
your "opinion" was based on what you saw on their website. How can you gain any insight on what they are doing based on that? please explain because that makes your comment null and void.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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so what we're typing is keeping companies from making parts for us? 2 things wrong with that, they're obviously spending too much time on the forums and not enough time making products. secondly, i consider our "bitching" justified. not 1 ounce of proof that any R&D or work has started...

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your "opinion" was based on what you saw on their website. How can you gain any insight on what they are doing based on that? please explain because that makes your comment null and void.
are u drunk? they only have like 8 intake systems. pretty weak for a company that only makes intakes...

3 months and not a single shred of evidence, if this makes me impatient, than it also makes Vararam a dead beat company. /dispute

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Like I stated earlier. This was the exact situation where Cobb pulled out of the mazdaspeed platform. people that would nay say the **** out of the parts before release. make up bs. The parts still sold out everywhere, but the community ruined it.

They are spending too much time on the forums? I dont think I've seen them make one post here.....
I'm pretty sure an update said they were testing venturi's and had a test car..Term2 also talked to them but he didnt make a update either. So until theres an update denying the intake, how can you make assumptions that its not being made?

Theres your opinions and extreme bitching and being so negative you ruin it for everyone. With comments like, "its vaporware", "it wont ever come out", "they are slack ass" why would a company want to make a part for a user like you, that ALREADY before even seeing the part has negative comments to say.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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Like I stated earlier. This was the exact situation where Cobb pulled out of the mazdaspeed platform. people that would nay say the **** out of the parts before release. make up bs. The parts still sold out everywhere, but the community ruined it.

They are spending too much time on the forums? I dont think I've seen them make one post here.....
I'm pretty sure an update said they were testing venturi's and had a test car..Term2 also talked to them but he didnt make a update either. So until theres an update denying the intake, how can you make assumptions that its not being made?

Theres your opinions and extreme bitching and being so negative you ruin it for everyone. With comments like, "its vaporware", "it wont ever come out", "they are slack ass" why would a company want to make a part for a user like you, that ALREADY before even seeing the part has negative comments to say.

than how do they know we are talking crap? you should think before you type.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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so what we're typing is keeping companies from making parts for us? 2 things wrong with that, they're obviously spending too much time on the forums and not enough time making products. secondly, i consider our "bitching" justified. not 1 ounce of proof that any R&D or work has started...



are u drunk? they only have like 8 intake systems. pretty weak for a company that only makes intakes...

3 months and not a single shred of evidence, if this makes me impatient, than it also makes Vararam a dead beat company. /dispute
did you read where an intake can usually take 1 year to make? did you see the other products they produce besides intakes? Did you see their guarantee that they buy intakes back if its not the "best"? call them up and ask them what they are doing. I'm sure you'll get a solid answer. If they sell the best intake on the market for some of the more expensive vehicles, and charge a premium, why would they need to make intakes for different cars. Go read on the vette and other LS engine forums...these are extremely popular intakes.

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than how do they know we are talking crap? you should think before you type.
because your previous posts have shown that you are 1. a **** talker and 2. make up things with out knowing the truth.... I think that is good evidence to make my statement true, that you are talking crap.

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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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did you read where an intake can usually take 1 year to make? did you see the other products they produce besides intakes? Did you see their guarantee that they buy intakes back if its not the "best"? call them up and ask them what they are doing. I'm sure you'll get a solid answer. If they sell the best intake on the market for some of the more expensive vehicles, and charge a premium, why would they need to make intakes for different cars. Go read on the vette and other LS engine forums...these are extremely popular intakes.



because your previous posts have shown that you are 1. a **** talker and 2. make up things with out knowing the truth.... I think that is good evidence to make my statement true, that you are talking crap.

for the second time, are you drunk? You had stated you never saw Vararam post on here, so chances are they don't scan through css. So how does Vararam know we are talking crap about them and therefore back out of production???? AKA what i orignally asked.

UPDATE: this is the 21st century. This is the age of now. If Vararam IS working on an intake for us than why not in 3 months post a picture, a flow chart, display a prototype? anything other than "they said" this or that, how about something REAL. Thats what all my bitching/**** talking is about. im done arguing on this thread. i don't desire getting it locked out or getting myself and other members in trouble. PM me if you really wanna keep going.

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