Where is the GM stage kit?
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Some quick info for you guys thinking about getting this stage kit....DONT. My best friend owns a 2009 cobalt, similar to mine, and told me to not even think about it. It replaces a couple of sensors, and gets a tune, thats it. Its pointless. It will put you at around 295 at the crank, when if you spent that same amount on a tune from a pro you will get about 310 at the wheels. Pretty sad.
get all your mods at once, then tune it, and you will be set.
get all your mods at once, then tune it, and you will be set.
because unlike them we have to get an intake for the kit
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I'm hearing rumblings that this kit may not make it to market until early summer due to CARB recertification of the new intake and subsequent calibration change. Rumor is that the 09 stage kit for the HHR/Kappa line will be out possibly by the end of this month as the CARB approval was essentially a carryover.
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I'm hearing rumblings that this kit may not make it to market until early summer due to CARB recertification of the new intake and subsequent calibration change. Rumor is that the 09 stage kit for the HHR/Kappa line will be out possibly by the end of this month as the CARB approval was essentially a carryover.
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New sensors and and intake reflash , and I will be willing to bet that the kit will come underated and give out more power than that. With the new sensors and such and the reflash , I will bet that you will be able to get more out of the car later with aftermarket reflashes, and as far as cool dealerships go, they wont void your warranty if you bought the upgrade from them. It is worth it.
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No problem...just wanted to make sure it wasn't a "read it several times on this site" post...people think that if they read it 3 times on here it is fact....
This thread sounds like a gossip magazine. The kit should release in first quarter. GM has been known to drop the ball, so it could be later. Just subscribe to the crate engine depot thread in the vendor section, and stay tuned. We are all anxious, but its starting to get redundant.
I try not to post unless I have something concrete. I'll keep everyone updated to see if I can get a prerelease non certified kit (or not).
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Some quick info for you guys thinking about getting this stage kit....DONT. My best friend owns a 2009 cobalt, similar to mine, and told me to not even think about it. It replaces a couple of sensors, and gets a tune, thats it. Its pointless. It will put you at around 295 at the crank, when if you spent that same amount on a tune from a pro you will get about 310 at the wheels. Pretty sad.
get all your mods at once, then tune it, and you will be set.
get all your mods at once, then tune it, and you will be set.
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What's everyone getting their panties in a wad about? Were talking about maybe 50whp. It's not like the stage kit will be like strapping a JATO to your trunk or anything. Enjoy your car (which, stock, outperforms 97% of the other roadgoing vehicles out there). When the kit comes out, if it's an attractive option to you, then get it. Y'alls cars WILL NOT DIE without the upgrade....
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What's everyone getting their panties in a wad about? Were talking about maybe 50whp. It's not like the stage kit will be like strapping a JATO to your trunk or anything. Enjoy your car (which, stock, outperforms 97% of the other roadgoing vehicles out there). When the kit comes out, if it's an attractive option to you, then get it. Y'alls cars WILL NOT DIE without the upgrade....
No but our interest and starvation for more warrantied HP at a reasonable cost may die down ..
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I am getting back around $2000.... plan on putting it all in the Cobalt...
but smartly:
$1000 for the stage kit(set aside for when it comes out)
$1000 for a spec Stage 2+ clutch/flywheel(set aside for when my stocker takes a ****, lol, hopefully a while from now, in fact, hopefully, I add to this collection with next years tax return before I need this $1000, maybe a couple of times)
but smartly:
$1000 for the stage kit(set aside for when it comes out)
$1000 for a spec Stage 2+ clutch/flywheel(set aside for when my stocker takes a ****, lol, hopefully a while from now, in fact, hopefully, I add to this collection with next years tax return before I need this $1000, maybe a couple of times)
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that is what i was ******* thinking bout today! i mean come one everyone else got it before christmas....... the only reason i can think it is taking too long is cause the intake needs to be changed..... cause apparently we get way more hp (like 20 more) than all the other lnfs and we might be the one to get the stage 2 kit if it really does come out
Comon guys, stop with the rumors and just wait it out. If u cant wait get it psychotuned and youll probly be making MORE power/TQ than u would with stage 1 anyway.
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I dont know who the hell started this rumor, but its BS. Why would GM make the stage kit for JUST the COBALT 20 more hp? Does that make any damn sense?
Comon guys, stop with the rumors and just wait it out. If u cant wait get it psychotuned and youll probly be making MORE power/TQ than u would with stage 1 anyway.
Comon guys, stop with the rumors and just wait it out. If u cant wait get it psychotuned and youll probly be making MORE power/TQ than u would with stage 1 anyway.
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Yes. actually it would make sense. With all the glowing reviews the cobalt SS has gotten, and all indications are its the next SRT4, it would make sense for GM to make sure it stays on top with as much as they are willing to throw at it. However, the more likely answer is our stock intake couldnt properly handle the level, and the certs are just taking longer.
So much fail in one post.
first of all, there is nothing special about the SS/TC vs the sky redline, sol GXP, and the HHR SS. The kappa platform in the sol/sky is much better than the Cobalts platform, and have you looked at all the awards the sol GXP has won? The GXP is a better performer in the corners and the strip hands down.
All these "glowing reviews" dont mean crap because theyre about the car in its STOCK form. The magazines dont review a stage 1 cobalt, they review a STOCK cobalt. We all know that they also dont know crap about aftermarket support/potential and dont bother discussing these topics as such. I dont see how a "glowing review" of a stock cobalt is going to justify GM to say "hey, lets make it with 20 more hp vs the superior GXP with stage 1!"
The next SRT4? WOW. Do u even know that Dodge is still making the SRT4? Do u also know that its engine and chasis are based off the EVO X? In case u didnt know heres a pic:
Thats MY CSRT4, and I can promise it will remain an SRT4.
Please educate yourself before u make dumb comments like these.Ur stock intake cant handle the power? Ur not running 1000000 hp. How is it not able to handle the power? I hope u realize that there are psychotuned guys running this power with drop in filters. Some just have only the tune.
U have to stop with the fanboy attitude and realize that there are better cars out there than the SS/TC. U make urself sound like an ass.
Are u on drugs??
So much fail in one post.
first of all, there is nothing special about the SS/TC vs the sky redline, sol GXP, and the HHR SS. The kappa platform in the sol/sky is much better than the Cobalts platform, and have you looked at all the awards the sol GXP has won? The GXP is a better performer in the corners and the strip hands down.
All these "glowing reviews" dont mean crap because theyre about the car in its STOCK form. The magazines dont review a stage 1 cobalt, they review a STOCK cobalt. We all know that they also dont know crap about aftermarket support/potential and dont bother discussing these topics as such. I dont see how a "glowing review" of a stock cobalt is going to justify GM to say "hey, lets make it with 20 more hp vs the superior GXP with stage 1!"
The next SRT4? WOW. Do u even know that Dodge is still making the SRT4? Do u also know that its engine and chasis are based off the EVO X? In case u didnt know heres a pic:
Thats MY CSRT4, and I can promise it will remain an SRT4. Please educate yourself before u make dumb comments like these.
Ur stock intake cant handle the power? Ur not running 1000000 hp. How is it not able to handle the power? I hope u realize that there are psychotuned guys running this power with drop in filters. Some just have only the tune.
U have to stop with the fanboy attitude and realize that there are better cars out there than the SS/TC. U make urself sound like an ass.
So much fail in one post.
first of all, there is nothing special about the SS/TC vs the sky redline, sol GXP, and the HHR SS. The kappa platform in the sol/sky is much better than the Cobalts platform, and have you looked at all the awards the sol GXP has won? The GXP is a better performer in the corners and the strip hands down.
All these "glowing reviews" dont mean crap because theyre about the car in its STOCK form. The magazines dont review a stage 1 cobalt, they review a STOCK cobalt. We all know that they also dont know crap about aftermarket support/potential and dont bother discussing these topics as such. I dont see how a "glowing review" of a stock cobalt is going to justify GM to say "hey, lets make it with 20 more hp vs the superior GXP with stage 1!"
The next SRT4? WOW. Do u even know that Dodge is still making the SRT4? Do u also know that its engine and chasis are based off the EVO X? In case u didnt know heres a pic:
Thats MY CSRT4, and I can promise it will remain an SRT4.
Please educate yourself before u make dumb comments like these.Ur stock intake cant handle the power? Ur not running 1000000 hp. How is it not able to handle the power? I hope u realize that there are psychotuned guys running this power with drop in filters. Some just have only the tune.
U have to stop with the fanboy attitude and realize that there are better cars out there than the SS/TC. U make urself sound like an ass.
Actually the ss/tc is completely based off the evo. evo 7 actually but still.
srt4 was crap, they should have put more thought into it, the new one is pretty nice lookin. least its not a neon. whats the price on that thing?
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Are u on drugs??
So much fail in one post.
first of all, there is nothing special about the SS/TC vs the sky redline, sol GXP, and the HHR SS. The kappa platform in the sol/sky is much better than the Cobalts platform, and have you looked at all the awards the sol GXP has won? The GXP is a better performer in the corners and the strip hands down.
All these "glowing reviews" dont mean crap because theyre about the car in its STOCK form. The magazines dont review a stage 1 cobalt, they review a STOCK cobalt. We all know that they also dont know crap about aftermarket support/potential and dont bother discussing these topics as such. I dont see how a "glowing review" of a stock cobalt is going to justify GM to say "hey, lets make it with 20 more hp vs the superior GXP with stage 1!"
The next SRT4? WOW. Do u even know that Dodge is still making the SRT4? Do u also know that its engine and chasis are based off the EVO X? In case u didnt know heres a pic:
Thats MY CSRT4, and I can promise it will remain an SRT4. Please educate yourself before u make dumb comments like these.
Ur stock intake cant handle the power? Ur not running 1000000 hp. How is it not able to handle the power? I hope u realize that there are psychotuned guys running this power with drop in filters. Some just have only the tune.
U have to stop with the fanboy attitude and realize that there are better cars out there than the SS/TC. U make urself sound like an ass.
So much fail in one post.
first of all, there is nothing special about the SS/TC vs the sky redline, sol GXP, and the HHR SS. The kappa platform in the sol/sky is much better than the Cobalts platform, and have you looked at all the awards the sol GXP has won? The GXP is a better performer in the corners and the strip hands down.
All these "glowing reviews" dont mean crap because theyre about the car in its STOCK form. The magazines dont review a stage 1 cobalt, they review a STOCK cobalt. We all know that they also dont know crap about aftermarket support/potential and dont bother discussing these topics as such. I dont see how a "glowing review" of a stock cobalt is going to justify GM to say "hey, lets make it with 20 more hp vs the superior GXP with stage 1!"
The next SRT4? WOW. Do u even know that Dodge is still making the SRT4? Do u also know that its engine and chasis are based off the EVO X? In case u didnt know heres a pic:
Thats MY CSRT4, and I can promise it will remain an SRT4.
Please educate yourself before u make dumb comments like these.Ur stock intake cant handle the power? Ur not running 1000000 hp. How is it not able to handle the power? I hope u realize that there are psychotuned guys running this power with drop in filters. Some just have only the tune.
U have to stop with the fanboy attitude and realize that there are better cars out there than the SS/TC. U make urself sound like an ass.
^^^
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Nice to see some SRT-4 fanboi around, they are getting rare.
Honestly, no need to get all out defensive. You can simply man up some solid performance data from legit sources to prove its "EVO based" superiority in stock trim.
Honestly, no need to get all out defensive. You can simply man up some solid performance data from legit sources to prove its "EVO based" superiority in stock trim.
