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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah DixSon
Actually, Haza, you warned me that if I didn't buy this one, I wouldn't get one for at least 4 months.

Totally worth it though.

mmm sorta... if you read a few posts back zzp had said it wouldn't be until next year. said something about BW's 1st or 2nd fiscal period iirc.
so i figured it'd be 4 months or so.

remember me saying this?? :p
September 5 Haza Newman
haha do it. personally its not worth it to me to spend the extra $700. for that much money you can do a lot more.
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my point is though that ZZP is going to sell them for 2k once borg warner has them in stock. i can't wait.



then literally that night...as you can see in yesterdays posts matt said they were on their way.
as long as you're happy thats all that matters.

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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
You'll definitely want at least the 6758. Quick spool time, and holds boost solid. On 93 you should easily be able to hit 400whp. With meth or e47 450whp is very doable.
sounds good, but what about torque numbers?
because i really like the torque the stock turbo gives us

Plus, what psi is good for that turbo to be in its sweet spot?
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
To the contrary, we just received notice of a shipment of EFR cores heading our way. We should be shipping ZFR turbos by the end of next week.

Old style cores, or the new revised units...
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by interviewatruins
mmm sorta... if you read a few posts back zzp had said it wouldn't be until next year. said something about BW's 1st or 2nd fiscal period iirc.
so i figured it'd be 4 months or so.
Actually, on page 72, Aug 3rd, I said "hopefully soon." Further down that page, 40rty said that they would not be available until Q1 of 2013. When I received confirmation of a shipment, I posted here right away.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000Firehawk
Old style cores, or the new revised units...
They are new units that just arrived at a Borg Warner distributor. I don't believe that they would start selling again if they were not the new design.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
sounds good, but what about torque numbers?
because i really like the torque the stock turbo gives us

Plus, what psi is good for that turbo to be in its sweet spot?
Unfortunately, the bigger the turbo you go with the less torque you will make down low. It's just the nature of the beast. The 6758 does spool up quickly, but it still won't spool as quick as the little k04, and to be quite honest, you really don't want it to spool that quickly unless you plan on rebuilding some engine internals.

As far as a sweet spot goes, 26psi seems to be a nice happy spot for this turbo. It can produce a decent amount more boost than that, but as far as spool time and sustaining boost up top, 26-28psi is a nice area to be in.

Accoring the compressor map,on 26psi, you should reach full spool by 3700rpm and hold it all the way to about 7400rpm relatively efficiently. I know that at 26psi is still well within it's efficiency range both according to the compressor map (72% efficiency @ 6800rpm) and accorrding the my logs as well. Never once has the iat2's gone over ambient even after a long 3rd-4th gear pull. Also keep in mind that he is spraying meth AFTER the ait2 temp sensor (the nozzle is located in a throttle body spacer), so the air temp numbers are not being skewed by the meth in the least bit
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
Actually, on page 72, Aug 3rd, I said "hopefully soon." Further down that page, 40rty said that they would not be available until Q1 of 2013. When I received confirmation of a shipment, I posted here right away.
haha well someone said it.
point is i'm glad the turbo is coming out now.
also glad i didn't buy it for 2800 locally. i would have easily waited another year cause i really want the efr.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
They are new units that just arrived at a Borg Warner distributor. I don't believe that they would start selling again if they were not the new design.
^ this is what I wanted to hear! Do you take payment in Kidneys?

Or gold bullion Suppose I am going to melt a credit card when they come in haha
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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awwwww yeah!! time to go in debt!!

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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Unfortunately, the bigger the turbo you go with the less torque you will make down low. It's just the nature of the beast. The 6758 does spool up quickly, but it still won't spool as quick as the little k04, and to be quite honest, you really don't want it to spool that quickly unless you plan on rebuilding some engine internals.

As far as a sweet spot goes, 26psi seems to be a nice happy spot for this turbo. It can produce a decent amount more boost than that, but as far as spool time and sustaining boost up top, 26-28psi is a nice area to be in.

Accoring the compressor map,on 26psi, you should reach full spool by 3700rpm and hold it all the way to about 7400rpm relatively efficiently. I know that at 26psi is still well within it's efficiency range both according to the compressor map (72% efficiency @ 6800rpm) and accorrding the my logs as well. Never once has the iat2's gone over ambient even after a long 3rd-4th gear pull. Also keep in mind that he is spraying meth AFTER the ait2 temp sensor (the nozzle is located in a throttle body spacer), so the air temp numbers are not being skewed by the meth in the least bit
I want to redline at 7200....alll i need is springs right
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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yeah, zzp springs..thats what im gonna do
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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wait.. what, a few will be available at the end of the week?
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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So no support mods needed?
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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bolt on and go....real fast...lol
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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looks like i'll be checking their site daily this week lol
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
Actually, on page 72, Aug 3rd, I said "hopefully soon." Further down that page, 40rty said that they would not be available until Q1 of 2013. When I received confirmation of a shipment, I posted here right away.
True, but that is a shipment of the turbos specified on the last page only(IE 6753 & 62xx). How about the full lineup of EFR at a customer request? I'm happy people will start getting these but I would like a 71xx size, eta? Q1? Lol
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Well then my K04+ is officially on sale the moment I get one.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Oh let me get that turbos shawty
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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if i can get this damn clutch on, lol, then this turbo is right after with zzp springs and ferrea valves....
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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yea my next thing is a bigger meth nozzle and possibly valve springs but I won't put those on till next year
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AARON-SS-TC
if i can get this damn clutch on, lol, then this turbo is right after with zzp springs and ferrea valves....
Bahahaha ferrea valves??? no wonder you have to get things little by little. Yea, they are a good brand and all but your going to be paying a arm and leg for valves you can get elsewhere with the same strength and quality.


Also, one minute you have a turbo in mind the next you change to another, "would you like chicken or Lasanga, Sir.... Chicken or Lasanga..SIR!? Make up your mind already.




Matt.... can you guys please design a manifold that isn't as restrictive as the stock that will breath better with an EFR? Guy's running these hybrids are putting the Ring Lands at risk running the power and boost they are or so I have learned recently. The stock mani retains to much heat at higher boost pressures and the heat pours back into the cylinders. You should look into this.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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heat does not pour back into the cylinders.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS
heat does not pour back into the cylinders.
40rty's got the right idea though. The high EGTs due to the restrictive turbo housing or manifold on the Cruzes has been causing all sorts of issues in both the stock and tuned forms. That problem is what originally caused Vince to begin designing the Intelliboost functionality, which balances power output with say EGTs. The turbo Cruzes were having a heck of a time.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Ringlands seem to go because of excessive intake temps and the k04's ability to achieve ridiculous spikes at relatively low rpms not exhaust temps. I would like to see a lightly revised stainless cast manifold with the options of different flanges and no dual scroll while maintaining close to stock turbo placement. The stock manifold is a decent design and unless u are going with a large frame efr or other turbo it seems to be sufficient.
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