2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.

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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Ok thanks for the info, but where does this spray into?
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Ok thanks for the info, but where does this spray into?
Intake mani
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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In our testing, the factory LNF pump flows the same as the Walbro, if not slightly more. The Aeromotive pump flowed WAY more than either. I don't have the numbers on me, but it was something in the 25% range higher than the Walbro. I ran the Aeromotive pump past 600whp on 90% ethanol. Not 90% E85/10% gas, but actually 90% ethanol- E90 I guess you could call it.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
And I'm not meaning make it the main source, just in boost... Run 100% methanol or a good Meth blend like 75% Meth and25% water.
I know what your saying but that wouldnt be as reliable. This actually y's off the main fuel line, which is the reason for the bigger fuel pump, and uses a 60lb/hr injector. And like you said the injector will come in at a certain boost and is a progressive controller to add fuel as boost increases.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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pics or an idea of where on the intake mani this 5th injector goes?
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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I'm meaning running the methanol off a 5 gallon tank. Yea it'll be less reliable i know its just a thought. I may drill into my intake runners and do somthing I dunno
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
What is the largest Meth nozzle available 550cc or 650cc. May be larger i dunno lol . Reason i ask is why don't we use a 5gallin Meth tank as are secondary fuel source.. just have it come in at mid idcs and ramp it up quickly and tune it in....
You can do that with this 5th injector kit. Add in a cell with methanol or C16 and it's own pump and this kit makes a great meth kit.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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pics or an idea of where on the intake mani this 5th injector goes?
I may install it early next week, it is supposed to be warmer again. It will go up front in the middle of the mani.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cmiller8006
I may install it early next week, it is supposed to be warmer again. It will go up front in the middle of the mani.
ok so your just going to drill and tap it out i guess?
or i could judt wait for pics when you do it lol!
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ssblackstealth
ok so your just going to drill and tap it out i guess?
or i could judt wait for pics when you do it lol!
You use an existing hole.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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The injector replaces the EVAP solenoid. The EVAP then mounts on the block that sticks out towards the front of the car. It's hard to see it in the pic, but there is a mounting pad for the EVAP. The original EVAP hole aims right at the center of intake directly above the throttle plate, so the fuel mixes very well.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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... What sounds more reasonable is making a port fueler type but running the stock manifold..... Run four injectors and they are boost referenced so they'll com in just like your kit .. because to me, running one doesn't mean all the cyclinders get the same amount of fuel. Have you guys tested the flow and egts on each cyclinder and runner?
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Matt you answered my question lol. I just assume.each cyclinder would be different since flow will be different. But its a great example of ingenuity lol.... Work with what you got.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
Matt you answered my question lol. I just assume.each cyclinder would be different since flow will be different. But its a great example of ingenuity lol.... Work with what you got.
Yup. I've been running this kit for a while. I think my dyno numbers and track times show how well it works.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
What is the largest Meth nozzle available 550cc or 650cc. May be larger i dunno lol . Reason i ask is why don't we use a 5gallin Meth tank as are secondary fuel source.. just have it come in at mid idcs and ramp it up quickly and tune it in....
Right now I'm running e47 w/ a 7gph meth nozzel with a 50/50 mix. Its a devilsown progressive kit
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Sweet dealio.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Will be turning up the boost on the 5857 here soon
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Matt can you PM me a price on everything needed to set this up? I found the pump on your site but not a kit.

Cmiller if you could do a how to that would be great!
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeyballs
Matt can you PM me a price on everything needed to set this up? I found the pump on your site but not a kit.

Cmiller if you could do a how to that would be great!
It should be on the site soon. We just need to put together the cost breakdown and finalize the price.

If you are running our fuel pump lobe intake cam, then you can already support E85 on a typical 450whp upgraded turbo setup without this kit. If you run this kit instead of the larger pump lobe, then you can stick with the factory in-tank pump and support similar power levels. If you are going past 500whp on E85, then you want the pump lobe, 5th injector, and Stealth pump.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt M
It should be on the site soon. We just need to put together the cost breakdown and finalize the price.

If you are running our fuel pump lobe intake cam, then you can already support E85 on a typical 450whp upgraded turbo setup without this kit. If you run this kit instead of the larger pump lobe, then you can stick with the factory in-tank pump and support similar power levels. If you are going past 500whp on E85, then you want the pump lobe, 5th injector, and Stealth pump.
So i can skip the pump and just get the injector, controller and fittings? I'm not taking my car much further but i would like to run E85 and i rather not install cams.
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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I'm not officially an engineer yet but wouldn't this make cylinders 1+4 run leaner than 2+3? Being closer to the injector in the manifold? I don't know exactly what the interior of an lnf intake manifold looks like, just my thoughts. How would you be able to tell if 1+4 are lean and 2+3 are rich besides running 4 widebands in each exhaust manifold port?
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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^^^ I madecthis same post lol. I asked if they tested flow and egts



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