I'd rather have big power from a TVS, I know it's more costly and more difficult. It just seems more unique.

Am I the only one that sees turbo Cobalts as the new Eclipse GS-T??

 

i agree its def. unique and ppl just dont expect it but idk bout the whole eclipse gst thing lol

 

iv seen more threads about turbo swap lsj having problems then tvs, just saying.

 

because they try and half ass it and piece together some crap ebay kit

 

Well I think we both can agree to disagree, I see both sc and turbo as viable options both have pros and cons.

 

No good gains on SC without Meth, E85 or High Octane Race Fuel. Sorry bro

 

Yeah, you're not the man to grill on this, you're mature about the turbo vs sc thing. I love turbo's, but its not the correct power added for my goals on the car, and mine will get a tvs or mp90 if I fail to meet my 350 wheel goal on the m62, or, more likely, if I dont get the torque curve I want.

 

why not buy a used 08+ stock k04 kit for about 800-1000? then you just need about another 500-800 bucks and theres 300whp conservatively. (from what ive read on here about people that have done this) surprised this is not more of an option instead of 2k or 2.5k to run a tvs. any reason why people arent going with this option?

 

because the cold side piping will not work. you'll also need the lnf thermostat housing. and the 2.2 head does not flow as much as the lnf or lsj, so the engine itself may not be able to hold the amount of boost required for that 300whp

 

o icic. did not know they dont have that great of flow. thanks for the info EX but it would work on the lsj with no problem then?

 

you would see better results on a stock lsj vs a stock l61 with a bolt on ko4 kit

 

At lot of that is because of the cam. Supposedly the intake ports on the lsj and l61 heads flow about the same but the lsj has a bit more exhaust port flow.

 

o ok. thanks again for the info. learn something new everyday lol.

 

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on a 3.35" m62

 

im going to run the meth through the tb adapter plate, euthanasia ported and polished both my ls4 tb and its zzp adapter plate, smoothed and blended them together, really nice work, the adapter plate already has the two taps for meth so its perfect. i prefer the after tb location because the meth pump will be feeding into a vacuum as opposed to pushing into boost. should also help vaporization and keep the blower itself cooler. so which 1600 to spend first, fully done head or top end meth system...

 

1600 for a meth system? Just get the snow version designed to work with the 2.5 bar map with the progressive controller thats like 400 bucks if that? Its the one I want to get when when I run meth.

 

im looking at snows full safejection system with all the bells and whistles, its 1200 before install through them, not sure if smg will be able to get me a better price since hes a dealer for them.

 

Reading the safe system. I'd avoid it, the last thing you need it something spliced into your spark and injector wires. Just make sure you check the meth, and you'll know right away when its not on. If you really want a way to know if the system failed, plumb one of These into a T on the pump outlet, and set it to ground an led in your dash. Then the light is on you actually have pressure over 60-120 psi in the meth line and thus should be injecting meth, if it goes out and you are in boost get out of the throttle and fill the meht tank up. I plan on using this when I put in my meth system next summer, with maybe a more complicated set of circuity to control the led the way I want.

Or you could just run the big meth tank from devils own with the level sensor. There's a big open spot in the passenger side between the bumper and inner fender liner where I bet that would fit.

 

the safe system uses a bypass solenoid, if the meth cuts out for any reason it opens the bypass valve and drops you out of boost. its much faster at seeing a problem and doing something about it than a driver can be.

 

I could see someone needing that if they only know how to look at the road and not their gauges while having their foot into it lol. I have a pressure switch tapped into my meth line so i know the pump is always working and there's fluid there. And set up my interceptor ammunicator for KR3 so when I get knock the LEDs light up. I've had 1 pump fail on me before and knew instantly it wasn't working.

 

you could always run one of these too if you wanna get a little more fancy
AEM Water/Methanol Flow Gauge 0-500CC with Analog Face

 

or i could just bury the throttle and focus on shifting and driving. the safejection system makes it a lot safer to run meth.