Yes, of course, but right now we aren't sure how long it may take to get inside the PCM.


We agree completely.

 

The maf translator is basically the same thing as the AFC 2.2 ZZP is selling.

and youre going to be testing your pcms w/ dyno tunes and test cars this time right???

 

Excellent question Elliott! We've already dynoed 92 cars in 2005, and we plan to dyno each Cobalt mod that we introduce to the marketplace.

 

are you doing the tests independent to each mod . (i.e. an injen adds 5hp, injectors add 10hp) or in combination (injen and injectors add 15hp)

 

just making sure.... because last time.....well.....yeah.....

 

So if I were to purchase this kit, and an alternative to the MAF-T was released, say a plug and play version or some other means of accessing the pcm, would it be hard to reverse the install of the MAF-T? I wouldn't mind so much, but I am a complete soldering newb, and I don't want the install to look ghetto-rigged lol. Also, when the GM stage kits come out, would the reflash be a suitable replacement for the MAF-T?

Oh, and did you guys have to use an adjustable belt tensioner for the 2.8 pulley?

 

for those who dont like soldering, zzp sells an AFC that is plug and play

*Link removed*

This is the same one JMC has on his car.

 

That would be ideal, but we can't afford to dyno test every mod individually. So we'll probably dyno test 'groups' of mods that are designed to work well with each other...

 

thank you for making that clear.

 

Sorry to disappoint but it is NOT plug and play! The MAFF connector on the Cobalts is nothing like the LS1 or GTP's. I'm sure they appreciate your misrepresentation

 

If you can't solder, then you probably can't install new injectors, new injector harnesses, or a new pulley either so it's not a problem. It's daunting at first, but once you get your feet wet it's not so bad.



I have my PCM harness all soldered and spliced up and if I want to put it back to stock I could do a reasonable job of making it look like no one ever touched it. Of course if the dealer really tore into the harness they would see the places you spliced in, but are they going to do that if they have no reason to believe such.

 

By the way, if i'm wrong, i apologize ahead of time

 

It says on the website that it is plug and play for the EcoTech

 

good thing you apologized ahead of time......

and you shouldve looked at the link instead of try and shoot me down so fast.

 

I did look at the link, the pic must be a generic one because those are NOT the correct connectors. I like this line, " making it a one size fits all type product." Like i said, if it fits, great, i have one on my Impala and i like it so i'm sure it would work fine there as well.

 

Here is the facts about the Easy Performance Mini AFC 2.2 : It has been sold in the past by many vendors and proves to work specially for the Grand Prix GTP, Camaro, GTO and some other cars. But now there is a few vendors that order them (from Easy Performance) already re-wired for the LSJ. It is so true that I bought mine from Afterthoughts Auto, they send the unit back to Easy Performance, those one get the wire swapped to fit the Cobalt, then it has been sent back to Afterthoughts, then Afterthoughts sent it to me with the 55NST connectors as it can be seen on their website. YES it is truly plug and play, as simple as disconnecting the MAF connector, and plug it between the MAF and the PCM. No soldering, nothing. So you must be sure that the vendor that sell you the Mini AFC know which car you have (if you're not sure, ask them to verify with Easy Performance) then you're good for a good MAF tuning device. It scales the MAF signal, either in a simple way (simple percentage scaling) or either in an advance way (you can scale different % for every 1000 KhZ of MAF frequency). I can guarantee it works, as I saw on a dyno. As an example, a simple reduction of the MAF signal (for say in the 3000 or 4000 RPM range) by 12% get the air fuel ratio went up to 16 ! You have to be careful with these devices. At this very moment, my MAF signal is corrected down by 5% in the midrange RPM's, until tomorrow for the other tests with bigger injectors ...

 

Either Tuesday or wensday Ill have a dyno of this + a Injen CAI

Going with Rob over to MSL with some gto's to play

 

I like your mod list ! (in the sig).

 

ECOTEC.

On another note.

So this thread is about what Intense has done with a Cobalt. Not about what part aother vendor has that does the simular function.

So unless you have a comment about what Intense has done you need to keep your comments about some competing product in another thread and stop trying to thread jack.

It's not fair to the orginal poster so how about you knock it off.

 

sorry, but zzp should be a sponsored vendor soon....

 

It was verified by someone who already has one that they do indeed fit butttttttttt,

You have to pull the headlight anytime you want to make change. Those are not fun.

Hope you get the adjustment right the first time.

 

oh come on rob, you know better than that. You know its real easy to extend the wires to have it in the cockpit. A common mod in the GP world. All you need to do is extend the wires and send it through the firewall. Im not familiar with the cobalt interior, but im sure there is a cubby hole somewhere to put it in.

 

WAIT A minute!!! EXTEND WIRES????? Thats what people don't want to do. Now it is no different than the MAFT Intense sells.

 

touche

 

I have a question with this package and other mods would a larger fuel pump (such as a sumo) help with fuel delivery? Thus with the larger injectors in turn with ECU modifications make more HP, or is the larger fuel pump overkill?


J4