Another boost loss issue
Another boost loss issue
Okay so since I've had my ottp stage 1 kit, I've seen 15 psi at WOT but today after a long time of not bothering to look, the most i could pull was 12.5 psi at 7,000 rpm. any ideas what the issue is?
also, i plan on moving up to ottp stage 2 soon. what's the average max psi at 7k with a 2.8 pulley?
also, i plan on moving up to ottp stage 2 soon. what's the average max psi at 7k with a 2.8 pulley?
Okay so since I've had my ottp stage 1 kit, I've seen 15 psi at WOT but today after a long time of not bothering to look, the most i could pull was 12.5 psi at 7,000 rpm. any ideas what the issue is?
also, i plan on moving up to ottp stage 2 soon. what's the average max psi at 7k with a 2.8 pulley?
also, i plan on moving up to ottp stage 2 soon. what's the average max psi at 7k with a 2.8 pulley?
well, i did this 2 or 3 times to see if it was consistant and it was. i'm going to say that if you can lose boost from exhaust then that's it since i've only had my header and dp for only 3 or 4 weeks now.
i should still have the same power and even a hair more with the exhaust though, right? i mean it isn't robbing me of anything. just more power, less psi?
i should still have the same power and even a hair more with the exhaust though, right? i mean it isn't robbing me of anything. just more power, less psi?
Last edited by Brenticus; Jul 15, 2010 at 03:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
well, i did this 2 or 3 times to see if it was consistant and it was. i'm going to say that if you can lose boost from exhaust then that's it since i've only had my header and dp for only 3 or 4 weeks now.
i should still have the same power and even a hair more with the exhaust though, right? i mean it isn't robbing me of anything. just more power, less psi?
i should still have the same power and even a hair more with the exhaust though, right? i mean it isn't robbing me of anything. just more power, less psi?
that's why i asked. i felt sceptic of saying that less boost as a result of a mod that's supposed to add a little over 10 hp/tq couldn't be hurting just because my needle says i'm running less boost.
thanks.
thanks.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/2-8in-vs-3in-pulley-boost-charted-214128/
i only hit 15 psi with a 2.7 pulley and 3 in exhaust so 12 sounds about right
and no matter what if you go to a smaller pulley without changing your exhaust you boost will got up
and no matter what if you go to a smaller pulley without changing your exhaust you boost will got up
Yeah there are so many factors that come into play that everyone will have a different story. But that chart is back to back with a 3.0" and a 2.8" pulley. Nothing changed inbetween. Both maxed out at 15.5psi in the end. Even tho the 3.0" spiked to 15.5psi in the very end which doesnt help you much
seems like those of us who are running less boost on smaller pulleys are running full 3" exhaust, not 2.5". at the end of the day though, if you can get more horsepower with less psi then that's just that much less pressure in the engine, so it sounds good to me. though i will admit, seeing that boost gauge spike does give me a woody.
j/k
ok, so, the technical answer, here goes:
boost doesn't determine airflow. boost is pressure, right? My car: stock exhaust with OTTP Stage 2 2.8 pulley, OTTP heat exchanger. I hit 17psi.
more exhaust flow means less restriction... but not just in the exhaust! the car breathes better as a whole. the SC is pressurizing you're cylinders, but in every car you have a period in the cumbustion cycle where the intake AND the exhaust are both partially open, called "valve overlap". before the power stroke completes, the exhaust valve starts opening so the presurized burnt air/gas mixture starts to flow out under pressure. as the exhaust valve is starting to close towards the end of the exaust stroke, the intake starts to open so that it doesn't JUST start opening on the intake stroke. Of course it's timed perfectly so it won't open and smash into your piston :haha:
so that sliiight overlap is where the high flow exhaust helps. the SC is under less presure when it helps push out a bit of exhaust, called "scavenging" the exhaust. It is this same principle of scavenging the exhaust that helped to bring the supercharger into the automotive scene for old skool 2-stroke diesel engines, where scavenging is necessary. anywho...
With the better breathing the car has less restriction. Boost IS restriction, it's pressure. Less restriction? less pressure. Blow into a balloon like the ones used for balloon animals the skinny ones, you can fill it up just fine. You displace the air into the balloon. Blow up a regular balloon, it's easier to blow up. You used the same amount of air both times. Which has less restriction? the bigger balloon.
Ya got the same airflow, don't think that 12.5 PSI is bad. Infact, it's better for your IAT2's
boost doesn't determine airflow. boost is pressure, right? My car: stock exhaust with OTTP Stage 2 2.8 pulley, OTTP heat exchanger. I hit 17psi.
more exhaust flow means less restriction... but not just in the exhaust! the car breathes better as a whole. the SC is pressurizing you're cylinders, but in every car you have a period in the cumbustion cycle where the intake AND the exhaust are both partially open, called "valve overlap". before the power stroke completes, the exhaust valve starts opening so the presurized burnt air/gas mixture starts to flow out under pressure. as the exhaust valve is starting to close towards the end of the exaust stroke, the intake starts to open so that it doesn't JUST start opening on the intake stroke. Of course it's timed perfectly so it won't open and smash into your piston :haha:
so that sliiight overlap is where the high flow exhaust helps. the SC is under less presure when it helps push out a bit of exhaust, called "scavenging" the exhaust. It is this same principle of scavenging the exhaust that helped to bring the supercharger into the automotive scene for old skool 2-stroke diesel engines, where scavenging is necessary. anywho...
With the better breathing the car has less restriction. Boost IS restriction, it's pressure. Less restriction? less pressure. Blow into a balloon like the ones used for balloon animals the skinny ones, you can fill it up just fine. You displace the air into the balloon. Blow up a regular balloon, it's easier to blow up. You used the same amount of air both times. Which has less restriction? the bigger balloon.
Ya got the same airflow, don't think that 12.5 PSI is bad. Infact, it's better for your IAT2's
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