bad vibrations with ottp stg 2 mounts? solution!
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bad vibrations with ottp stg 2 mounts? solution!
hey, read somewhere in another thread about this, and was so relieved i wanted to make sure everyone else does the same!
i installed the ottp stg2 rotated tranny mounts a few months back... while the hop was mostly gone, the vibs were... noticeable. especially at idle, and it would shudder when i tap the gas, or try and crawl with the clutch (Reverse, anyone?)
found out if you undo the 3 bolts for the spacer and then re-bolt them in, it kind of re-settles the engine better than before, now that everything has shifted and adjusted to fit it.
so undo the bottom bolts, and then put them back in. took me 5 minutes, and now the car barely vibrates at all!
hope it helps anyone that didn't knew..
UPDATE! Turns out you're supposed to do this right after you install them. i.e., install them take for a lap around the block, then do the above.
also, loosening and retightening the upper engine mount is recommended by the great John Powell
i installed the ottp stg2 rotated tranny mounts a few months back... while the hop was mostly gone, the vibs were... noticeable. especially at idle, and it would shudder when i tap the gas, or try and crawl with the clutch (Reverse, anyone?)
found out if you undo the 3 bolts for the spacer and then re-bolt them in, it kind of re-settles the engine better than before, now that everything has shifted and adjusted to fit it.
so undo the bottom bolts, and then put them back in. took me 5 minutes, and now the car barely vibrates at all!
hope it helps anyone that didn't knew..
UPDATE! Turns out you're supposed to do this right after you install them. i.e., install them take for a lap around the block, then do the above.
also, loosening and retightening the upper engine mount is recommended by the great John Powell
Last edited by riceburner; Dec 2, 2011 at 08:32 AM.
ok well im kinda new to this, motor mounts helps the car with wheel hop.
wheel hop mean peeling out right? for example, when you install motor mounts, you can launch better and/or peel out less in other gears?
wheel hop mean peeling out right? for example, when you install motor mounts, you can launch better and/or peel out less in other gears?
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the problem with doing that is that if ur engine isn't freestanding, it makes the car itself vibrate with the engine more, which can get very annoying and make it feel like ur driving a p.o.s. on its way to the grave. so i thought this helped
It will help with launching your car. "peeling out" is not going to be fixed that much, if you are worried about that and you take ur car to the track I would say get a good set of track tires ex. slicks
Ok guys. When installing Otto stage 2 mounts, don't torque the mounting bolts. Leave them a little loose then drive around the block or something WITHOUT hitting boost. Afterwards go in and tighten it all up. I had hardly any vibes after that and wheel hop is eliminated. Make sure you loosen your upper engine mount as we'll. It let's everything settle as it should.
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ya really this is for when ur car burns out, but realy aim to not burn out, just practice good launching
also since they limit engine movement it made shifting feel a little more direct and smooth
damn i shoulda done that
also since they limit engine movement it made shifting feel a little more direct and smooth
Ok guys. When installing Otto stage 2 mounts, don't torque the mounting bolts. Leave them a little loose then drive around the block or something WITHOUT hitting boost. Afterwards go in and tighten it all up. I had hardly any vibes after that and wheel hop is eliminated. Make sure you loosen your upper engine mount as we'll. It let's everything settle as it should.
Last edited by riceburner; Dec 1, 2011 at 12:22 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Ok guys. When installing Otto stage 2 mounts, don't torque the mounting bolts. Leave them a little loose then drive around the block or something WITHOUT hitting boost. Afterwards go in and tighten it all up. I had hardly any vibes after that and wheel hop is eliminated. Make sure you loosen your upper engine mount as we'll. It let's everything settle as it should.
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Lots of incorrect info in this thread....
Please see a thread I made a year or so ago. Listen closely to what Northvibe says to do in post #6.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/driv...el-hop-211475/
Please see a thread I made a year or so ago. Listen closely to what Northvibe says to do in post #6.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/driv...el-hop-211475/
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Lots of incorrect info in this thread....
Please see a thread I made a year or so ago. Listen closely to what Northvibe says to do in post #6.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/driv...el-hop-211475/
Please see a thread I made a year or so ago. Listen closely to what Northvibe says to do in post #6.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/driv...el-hop-211475/
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Fyi
frame-to-body bolts
first pass
90 nˇm
60 lb ft
second pass
45 degrees
final pass
60 degrees
front transaxle mount through bolt
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
front transaxle mount-to-transaxle
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
input shaft bearing retainer bolts
38 nˇm
28 lb ft
left transaxle mount bolts
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
left transaxle mount bracket-to-transaxle bolt
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
rear transaxle mount through bolt
90 nˇm
66 lb ft
rear transaxle mount-to-frame bolts
60 nˇm
44 lb ft
rear transaxle mount-to-transaxle
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
credit goes to maven for the specs.
Keep in mind these are f35 only.
first pass
90 nˇm
60 lb ft
second pass
45 degrees
final pass
60 degrees
front transaxle mount through bolt
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
front transaxle mount-to-transaxle
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
input shaft bearing retainer bolts
38 nˇm
28 lb ft
left transaxle mount bolts
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
left transaxle mount bracket-to-transaxle bolt
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
rear transaxle mount through bolt
90 nˇm
66 lb ft
rear transaxle mount-to-frame bolts
60 nˇm
44 lb ft
rear transaxle mount-to-transaxle
55 nˇm
41 lb ft
credit goes to maven for the specs.
Keep in mind these are f35 only.
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I don't see the upper engine mount bolts in this listing.
Those are needed as well. Please see why in the link I posted about how to fix vibration issues when installing trans mounts.
Your link covers the trans mounts though, so that's good!
Those are needed as well. Please see why in the link I posted about how to fix vibration issues when installing trans mounts.
Your link covers the trans mounts though, so that's good!
Last edited by Staged07SS; Dec 2, 2011 at 09:39 AM.
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Check this link out:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...atings-193753/
Engine Mount to Intermediate Bracket Bolts
50 Nˇm
37 lb ft
^ This is for the upper engine mount bolts.
I knew it was 37 lb/ft.... I just wanted to be sure though.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...atings-193753/
Engine Mount to Intermediate Bracket Bolts
50 Nˇm
37 lb ft
^ This is for the upper engine mount bolts.
I knew it was 37 lb/ft.... I just wanted to be sure though.
Just loosened the 3 bolts on the motor side of the top mount and re torqued them and my vibrations went right away!!
and FYI
Motor mount to Body 74 Ft-lbs
Motor mount to Motor 37 Ft-lbs
(https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...t-ss-sc-19559/)
and FYI
Motor mount to Body 74 Ft-lbs
Motor mount to Motor 37 Ft-lbs
(https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...t-ss-sc-19559/)
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Just loosened the 3 bolts on the motor side of the top mount and re torqued them and my vibrations went right away!!
and FYI
Motor mount to Body 74 Ft-lbs
Motor mount to Motor 37 Ft-lbs
(https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...t-ss-sc-19559/)
and FYI
Motor mount to Body 74 Ft-lbs
Motor mount to Motor 37 Ft-lbs
(https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...t-ss-sc-19559/)
See above
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and i loosened both and re torqued them (not at the same time)
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You shouldnt have loosned the upper mount it's self.
Not saying it's bad, but it wasn't needed.
To recap on everything for anyone that may still be confused in this thread:
When installing rotated mounts, or trans mounts in general....
Loosen the 3 bolts on the upper engine mount, and re-torque to 37 lb-ft.




Only messin with ya man.