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As reference for all, GMR did not "fail" at the girdle design, they simple went with the sleeved route because of time constraints. To me that's not a failure to do the girdle so much as they just didn't see it through and went another route. Take it as you will though, not intended to bash ZZP or anyone else, they just seem pretty insistent about how GMR failed, where they succeeded.
As reference for all, GMR did not "fail" at the girdle design, they simple went with the sleeved route because of time constraints. To me that's not a failure to do the girdle so much as they just didn't see it through and went another route. Take it as you will though, not intended to bash ZZP or anyone else, they just seem pretty insistent about how GMR failed, where they succeeded.
But I could be wrong.
I'm Not really on the forums anymore because I just don't have the desire to mod my car anymore. Mostly due to the fact that I have a bates block in my balt that is leaking coolant into my oil. He fucked up almost everything on my block. I think I would've been better off doing the work by myself. But anyways, do yourself a favor and stay away from bates.
I'm Not really on the forums anymore because I just don't have the desire to mod my car anymore. Mostly due to the fact that I have a bates block in my balt that is leaking coolant into my oil. He fucked up almost everything on my block. I think I would've been better off doing the work by myself. But anyways, do yourself a favor and stay away from bates.
i plan on just getting the zzp block after the new years
No. The dartons take up the area that gets the girdle because the zzp girdle is really a block guard and not a girdle. I mean all ecotecs have a girdle stock, its just integrated into the oil pan.
As reference for all, GMR did not "fail" at the girdle design, they simple went with the sleeved route because of time constraints. To me that's not a failure to do the girdle so much as they just didn't see it through and went another route. Take it as you will though, not intended to bash ZZP or anyone else, they just seem pretty insistent about how GMR failed, where they succeeded.
I just don't have the desire to mod my car anymore. Mostly due to the fact that I have a bates block in my balt that is leaking coolant into my oil. He fucked up almost everything on my block. I think I would've been better off doing the work by myself. But anyways, do yourself a favor and stay away from bates.
I'm fully with zoomer on this one. The zzp block guard makes way more sense than the sleeve options. Its much less evasive to the block, lighter, just as strong.
Did you guys think of making an aluminum version of it? It would cool even better, be lighter, and should be almost as strong as the steel. The big concern is, press fits of aluminum into aluminum scare me since they can gall each other going in. At least you would only gall the girdle going in since the block would be harder and more abrasive than 6061 because of the high silica content.
Did you guys think of making an aluminum version of it? It would cool even better, be lighter, and should be almost as strong as the steel. The big concern is, press fits of aluminum into aluminum scare me since they can gall each other going in. At least you would only gall the girdle going in since the block would be harder and more abrasive than 6061 because of the high silica content.
i've got about 6k on my setup. who knows how many pulls on the dyno for tuning and on the street. plus 1.2k of those miles were a 23 hour trip from michigan to kentucky and on to oklahoma. actually come to think of it i've made that trip twice now on girdled blocks.
i've got about 6k on my setup. who knows how many pulls on the dyno for tuning and on the street. plus 1.2k of those miles were a 23 hour trip from michigan to kentucky and on to oklahoma. actually come to think of it i've made that trip twice now on girdled blocks.
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