Really Matt. You always put my words in my mouth and make my words seem the opposite of what i said. Zoom is disrespectful, and you can see this because your egos... and I can say the same for you . Turning peoples words around, causing drama. And ect. Ayways I'm done chatting with you.. I have better things to do.

Good bye..

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Pretty much the norm from you. Call someone a liar and then claim that they are disrespectful, but you are not. You think that you are not causing drama because you feel that what you say is the truth. Do you think I'm just sitting here thinking that I'm full of crap, but I'm just going to post something anyway? The only difference is that in the end, you say that you are a better person so that's how you know that you are right. I try to stick to technical information that relates to the topic, because I know that is where my strength is.

 

Once again you never fail Matt... I'm not being direspectful nor am I lying. When in fact I am telling the truth.. and honestly drama comes in when you or zoomer come into a thread.I came into this thread helping. And then baaaaaaammm. You and.zoomer start talking trash about ott. So I said serisouly stop, and then I get ****. So from there it goes to this... So yes you and zoomer are always starting drama. And another, no matter what I say your always gonna end up turning my words around. Dunno why. But its getting old........ Matt you also have been arguing with me about (nothing to do with the topic) ... You have been arguing for no reason, I simply stated facts.... ( facts. ). You are not talking about your fuel system and nor are you trying... So keep telling yourself your right when in fact your wrong.

 

Here is zzps bbb


Z Z Performance Business Review in Wyoming, MI - Western Michigan BBB

 

No one cares about the BBB. The only people that go there are the ones that complain.

 

so is the ottp return kit a boost reference setup that will drop the fuel pressure under vacuum to allow big injectors to idle smooth or is it just a manual regulator that allows you to set the pressure as you desire and stays constant?

 

Referenced

 

When are you going to help me install mine?

 

Anytime, pretty easy to do. You don't have an 04 so there shouldn't be any surprises lol.

 

Do you actually believe what you just typed? If so, feel free to scroll back and notice that I said absolutely nothing about OTT until there was a post made claiming wrong-doing by ZZP regarding OTT. It's not complicated- you can go back and read it. It's still there.

 

Well I have my nitrous solenoids mounted where the Regulator normally goes.



So I will have to figure something out...

 

First off I die come into this thread helping with ops question and i even said Ure kit is easy to install.

Zoomer came into this thread by saying ottp copied zzp, and blah blah blah .. who cares. Then he stated ottp had lawsuits against them. Honestly who cares, it certainly isn't zoomers concern. Ecspecially posting it on the forums which is b.s.

So yes I belive what I said

 

Ok, well then lets see what happens if we go with what you said. Zoom responded to claims of ZZP copying OTT. Now you say "who cares" and that "it certainly isn't zoomers concern." I guess in that case, quit responding to what we said. It's none of your concern. See how that sounds?

 

Might be able to move them over, the feed for the regulator will come in from the driver side, exit through the bottom.

 

Lol, I've already said goodbye and you still commented. Lol. Sorry I haven't responded sooner. We had to duck for shelter since we had some.tornadoes..

 

Yeah, we are supposed to get hit with freezing rain and winds up to 40mph tonight. Could get nasty. Lucky for me I'm heading south for a week.

 

Yeah we just had I think 6-8 tornadoes 3 deaths, so far and its purdy bad..... All within 50 miles of me.

 

afr on e85 is too lean. you're losing power.

 

I'm using gasoline stoich afr not ethanol.. and I've done a few test ramping it from 11.5 to 12.3-12.5 and it seemed to work better then keeping it in the 11s...

 

I agree in that it's probably a coincidence. I don't see a problem with using a successful product or changing to something better suited for the job. It was only for the sake of debate that I was pointing out ZZP sold that part before OTT. And it doesn't matter except when we're called out as somehow copying them when in fact we had it first.

If you have a product and discuss it, the best way for people to understand how it compares to the other choices out there, is to explain the differences and why. This generally causes drama. ZZP provides more information about a platform and the parts than any vendor out there and is very candid about what is going on. This can cause drama.

As example, if we make a downpipe and it's made from stainless but our competitor makes one out of aluminized steel, not everyone knows the difference. We would then say, our product is made of stainless unlike brand X who uses aluminum. Theirs will rust, stainless holds in heat better which is desirable. Now CCS3 things this is a dirty business tactic, drama starting and has no place in a forum. That I should keep my info to myself. I disagreee. I think customers are better served by our method of discussion and I know that ZZP has a business plan for success. So we'll continue.

It may be said that this method is unfair or doesn't work but it's only if you don't understand it fully. You see, a lot of companies do it. All the way to the largest companies in the world, like Samsung knocking the iphone in commercials. Are you going to sell Samsung they don't know what they are doing, they're going to go under, they are unprofessional? No, you get used to it. The problem comes in, when what you say isn't true. OTT calls out ZZP on their opt B page. Stating that theirs is complete and ours is not. This is precisely what you're bitching about CSS. But it won't work because our kit is complete. So customers just discover that OTT cannot be trusted and the method backfires. Business is complicated. You have 1000 things to get right in order to best the others trying to do better than you. It's complicated. More so than it would appear.

 

[QUOTE=Zooomer;6374308]I agree in that it's probably a coincidence. I don't see a problem with using a successful product or changing to something better suited for the job. It was only for the sake of debate that I was pointing out ZZP sold that part before OTT. And it doesn't matter except when we're called out as somehow copying them when in fact we had it first.



If you have a product and discuss it, the best way for people to understand how it compares to the other choices out there, is to explain the differences and why. This generally causes drama. ZZP provides more information about a platform and the parts than any vendor out there and is very candid about what is going on. This can cause drama.

As example, if we make a downpipe and it's made from stainless but our competitor makes one out of aluminized steel, not everyone knows the difference. We would then say, our product is made of stainless unlike brand X who uses aluminum. Theirs will rust, stainless holds in heat better which is desirable. Now CCS3 things this is a dirty business tactic, drama starting and has no place in a forum. That I should keep my info to myself. I disagreee. I think customers are better served by our method of discussion and I know that ZZP has a business plan for success. So we'll continue.[/QUOTE]

While zzp is being successful can i go ahead and get my coupon code i have been waiting on for 3 days now so i can place my order, thank you.

 

No, I and a lot of others who are not gullible zzp nutswingers see what you do and know its bs. But carry on......

 

You'll need to email customer service. Kyla handles codes and will probably not be in until Monday.
In your opinion, and we know what they say about opinions...

 

in short. they make power. ::shrugs:: thats all i got

 

just reading the thread, that's all