can u say pauls turbo 2.0
09-26-2007, 01:33 PM
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You do know all we need to do is upgrade to forged pistons and drop the CR (our biggest issue at almost 11 to 1) and our 2.4 is every bit as good as the 2.0 is. Both have forged cranks and the 2.4 uses cast rods instead of forged ones, but cast rods can handle damn near what forged ones can AND they are lighter.
So a piston swap to drop the CR and then we can stuff as much boost in the 2.4 as you can on the 2.0 BUT due to the larger displacment it will make more power.
Its the same as trying to say a 305 is better then a 350.
No cause you can apply the same technology to the larger engine and it will make more power then the smaller one. Technology isn't just limited to the 2.0 you know. 
So a piston swap to drop the CR and then we can stuff as much boost in the 2.4 as you can on the 2.0 BUT due to the larger displacment it will make more power.
Its the same as trying to say a 305 is better then a 350.
No cause you can apply the same technology to the larger engine and it will make more power then the smaller one. Technology isn't just limited to the 2.0 you know.
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09-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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you mean the whole world doesn't revolve around the 2.0??? Terry, dont you know around these parts thats heresy.... lol
09-26-2007, 01:41 PM
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You do know all we need to do is upgrade to forged pistons and drop the CR (our biggest issue at almost 11 to 1) and our 2.4 is every bit as good as the 2.0 is. Both have forged cranks and the 2.4 uses cast rods instead of forged ones, but cast rods can handle damn near what forged ones can AND they are lighter.
So a piston swap to drop the CR and then we can stuff as much boost in the 2.4 as you can on the 2.0 BUT due to the larger displacment it will make more power.
Its the same as trying to say a 305 is better then a 350.
No cause you can apply the same technology to the larger engine and it will make more power then the smaller one. Technology isn't just limited to the 2.0 you know.
So a piston swap to drop the CR and then we can stuff as much boost in the 2.4 as you can on the 2.0 BUT due to the larger displacment it will make more power.
Its the same as trying to say a 305 is better then a 350.
No cause you can apply the same technology to the larger engine and it will make more power then the smaller one. Technology isn't just limited to the 2.0 you know.
09-26-2007, 02:10 PM
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NOICE PAUL!! I like the way your piping is run, more so then the way the other kits are. Can't wait to see a vid as well as some updates on how she runnin and some numbers too.
09-26-2007, 02:58 PM
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Factory 2.4L Engine - 177 HP (at crank) - 150 HP (at rear wheels)
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 284 HP (at crank) - 242 HP (at rear wheels) with 8 lbs. boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 3 - 354 HP (at crank) - 301 HP (at rear wheels) with 13 lbs.boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 4 - 447 HP (at crank) - 380 HP (at rear wheels) with 21 lbs.boost
And this is all on stock internals.
I think the 2.4 is a better engine...
09-26-2007, 03:05 PM
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ok when did this turn into a thread on 2.0 vs 2.4. boosted is boosted guys and the 2.4 if tuned properly will make more power than the 2.0, but the 2.0 will rev higher, and be better balanced at higher rpms due to the equal stroke to bore ratio (86mmx86mm) and anyway, both motors are better than the 2.2 (j/k there guys lol). 2.4 is a well built motor, as is the 2.0, but with rods the 2.0's are definitely stronger, and soon I'll be working on finding the limits of all the stock parts. Ehh I can't even think straight while at work, sory if my post seems rambling but I just answered about 15 calls in the time I was trying to type this.. well anyway, more updates will follow. and quit the arguing about motors.
(p.s. never ever compare a 305 to a 350 thats just wrong)
(p.s. never ever compare a 305 to a 350 thats just wrong)
09-26-2007, 03:05 PM
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So the 2.4 ecotec in the hahn solstice running 380whp doesnt count?
Factory 2.4L Engine - 177 HP (at crank) - 150 HP (at rear wheels)
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 284 HP (at crank) - 242 HP (at rear wheels) with 8 lbs. boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 3 - 354 HP (at crank) - 301 HP (at rear wheels) with 13 lbs.boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 4 - 447 HP (at crank) - 380 HP (at rear wheels) with 21 lbs.boost
And this is all on stock internals.
I think the 2.4 is a better engine...
Factory 2.4L Engine - 177 HP (at crank) - 150 HP (at rear wheels)
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 284 HP (at crank) - 242 HP (at rear wheels) with 8 lbs. boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 3 - 354 HP (at crank) - 301 HP (at rear wheels) with 13 lbs.boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 4 - 447 HP (at crank) - 380 HP (at rear wheels) with 21 lbs.boost
And this is all on stock internals.
I think the 2.4 is a better engine...
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 290 HP (at crank) - 241HP at wheels with 8 lbs. boost (2.4 coby ss)... any more questions..
09-26-2007, 03:23 PM
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So the 2.4 ecotec in the hahn solstice running 380whp doesnt count?
Factory 2.4L Engine - 177 HP (at crank) - 150 HP (at rear wheels)
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 284 HP (at crank) - 242 HP (at rear wheels) with 8 lbs. boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 3 - 354 HP (at crank) - 301 HP (at rear wheels) with 13 lbs.boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 4 - 447 HP (at crank) - 380 HP (at rear wheels) with 21 lbs.boost
And this is all on stock internals.
I think the 2.4 is a better engine...
Factory 2.4L Engine - 177 HP (at crank) - 150 HP (at rear wheels)
Hahn Racecraft Stage 2 - 284 HP (at crank) - 242 HP (at rear wheels) with 8 lbs. boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 3 - 354 HP (at crank) - 301 HP (at rear wheels) with 13 lbs.boost
Hahn Racecraft Stage 4 - 447 HP (at crank) - 380 HP (at rear wheels) with 21 lbs.boost
And this is all on stock internals.
I think the 2.4 is a better engine...
nice upgrade man.. i would love to see that sometime and feel how it pulls
09-26-2007, 03:38 PM
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Can we just drop the 2.0 vs 2.4 argument and stick to the 2.0L Turbo info.
It pollutes the thread....
Go start a 2.4L thread if you wanna talk about that engine.
This is a post about a turbo'd LSJ.
It pollutes the thread....
Go start a 2.4L thread if you wanna talk about that engine.
This is a post about a turbo'd LSJ.
09-26-2007, 04:37 PM
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09-26-2007, 04:42 PM
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correct when i talked to hahn about a 2.4 kit for the ion he said the 2.4s are built very well and they had a 2.4 solstice running 408 WHP on stock internals...
damn acid your ignorant.. the engine in the sky/ solstice is the LE5 engine.. the engine in the 2.4 balt/ion is... wait for it .. a LE5 engine... face it... the 2.4 boosted is very efficient.. talk to hahn who's put out their 240WHP base 2.4 turbo kit.. and they have a 20G stage 2 upgrade... thats definately over 250 WHP... man you're dense.
nice upgrade man.. i would love to see that sometime and feel how it pulls
damn acid your ignorant.. the engine in the sky/ solstice is the LE5 engine.. the engine in the 2.4 balt/ion is... wait for it .. a LE5 engine... face it... the 2.4 boosted is very efficient.. talk to hahn who's put out their 240WHP base 2.4 turbo kit.. and they have a 20G stage 2 upgrade... thats definately over 250 WHP... man you're dense.
nice upgrade man.. i would love to see that sometime and feel how it pulls
GO 2.0 TURBO!!!!!!!!!
Cant wait to see the numbers. Congrats on the amazing setup(even tho i cant see the extra pics you posted until i get home).
09-26-2007, 04:55 PM
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maybe once it's done. lol.
as for the kit:
T-3 super 60 turbo, IC piping, Intercooler (28x8x3 I think) Turbo manifold, external wastegate, wastegate dump tube, BOV (turbo XS) 4 ply couplers, t-bolt clamps, and I think that's it.
oh yeah just for fun I was doing some full pulls on the way to work this morning it was 84 degrees out, at the top of 3rd gear my IAT2's were in the mid 70's. can't beat that. If I can get the damn internet working on my laptop I'll post some scanner snapshots.
as for the kit:
T-3 super 60 turbo, IC piping, Intercooler (28x8x3 I think) Turbo manifold, external wastegate, wastegate dump tube, BOV (turbo XS) 4 ply couplers, t-bolt clamps, and I think that's it.
oh yeah just for fun I was doing some full pulls on the way to work this morning it was 84 degrees out, at the top of 3rd gear my IAT2's were in the mid 70's. can't beat that. If I can get the damn internet working on my laptop I'll post some scanner snapshots.